Senator Obama has to show that he is strong on defense and is not dovish. He already lost some political points to Senator Clinton when he said that he will meet with the leaders of the axis of evil if voted to power.
Pakistan will self destruct on its own. India has to plan in advance about what it will do when the whole population of Pakistan try to escape to India when Pakistan goes up in inferno.
RE:Obama has to sound strong
by Sam on Aug 02, 2007 12:52 AM Permalink
somehow india has to broker peace between Iran and US, then all issues solved. Iran is a supporter of India and shias havent caused any problem in India.
All this jihadi fellows are the followers of deobandi and wahabbi ideology
RE:Obama has to sound strong
by Blazer on Aug 02, 2007 01:22 AM Permalink
India screwed up relationship with Iraq who was supplying food for oil at 70% of the mkt cost. the Secular govt did not even comment when Saddam was hanged. Same thing happens for Iran. India will just watch .India is not in a position to broker but mere slave in the hands of US. We do not have a strategy in action we only haev strategies for talking. if Iran thinks India can help it is a blunder on their part.
RE:Please explain
by Hyderabad Contact on Aug 02, 2007 12:13 AM Permalink
Wrong place to discuss this issue, you can go to a priest he can explain you.
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Hillary Clinton has widened her lead over fellow Sen. Barack Obama in the race for the U.S. Democratic presidential nomination, a new poll showed on Wednesday.
This only shows immaturity and poor judgment and complete lack of understanding of the internal milieu of the region on part of Obama.
That would be an all out attack on a sovereign nation and the last thing USA wants to do is to lose Pakistan as an ally in war against terror which was introduced by US and US intervention in Afghanistan.
If USA is so concerned about to and fro traffic across Afghan-Pakistan border,the better part of the valour would be to pull out 50,000 US troops from South Korea and put them to gaurd the border.
I don't know who Obama, as a Presidential Candidate is trying to please by making such irrational statement. This is certainly not a vote getting strategy.
Indiscriminate B-52 bombings of North Vietnam ,night after night for ten years produced no results ,except loss of some innocent civilians lives.
RE:Error of Judgment
by Amitabh Kumar on Aug 02, 2007 12:07 AM Permalink
You won't understand this as you don't want to. Well maintain the silence and wait till the B2 bomber comes in action. Why the he$ll US should put their force on Pakistan afganistan border which will again cause some casualities in US forces. US must and will attack the pakistaani locations sooner or later. Also, what make you think that washington needs Pakistaan support now for war on terror. do you consider yourself an expert on american foreign affairs? Obama must have talked to 100s of experts before making such statement.
RE:RE:Error of Judgment
by Jehan Mir on Aug 02, 2007 12:25 AM Permalink
You Indians just love anyone bombing Pakistan for any reason. Pakistan can survive without USA, and has survived before,its USA that has most to lose.
RE:RE:RE:Error of Judgment
by mr on Aug 02, 2007 12:28 AM Permalink
Yes. We too loose a neighbor paki, not only USA loose a old time ally ( Fking War On Terror Ally).
RE:RE:RE:RE:Error of Judgment
by Jehan Mir on Aug 02, 2007 12:36 AM Permalink
According to Human Rights Watch Groups ,You killed 100,000 Sikh youths during Kalistan movement and Indians Army and Police has killed 80,000 Kashmiri Muslims in ten years in extra-judicial killings.
Everyone should listen to you . You are the experts in terror.
RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:Error of Judgment
by riir on Aug 02, 2007 12:45 AM Permalink
Muslims have killed far too many people all around the world. Forgot the Mughals? Ghauri? hindu kush slaughter? Kashmiri pandits (around 1 million), darfur? etc etc etc??? Human rights watch groups also talk about the excellent treatment of Non-muslims as well as muslim women in the holiest country for muslims (saudi arabia). No church, temple, synagogue is allowed there. People are been arrested and beaten for just wearing a cross or putting their religious symbols inside their HOUSE. Even then muslims demand rights in non muslim countries..build mosques in USA, europe, india etc...dont u have any shame?
RE:Error of Judgment
by Hemal Patel on Aug 02, 2007 12:46 AM Permalink
Jehan, my friend common people of India and I am sure Pakistan too are concerned more about their day to day life. Large population of India would not wish innocient civilian life lost anywhere in the world including Pakistan. We do not wish anyone bombing you. India wishes an educated, liberal and prosporous pakistan.
RE:RE:Error of Judgment
by Mukesh on Aug 02, 2007 01:27 AM Permalink
no, we don't want any such thing. From last 60 years, we had enough of this madness, and now we want this dirty neighbour to be buried with pi*gs. Also, it must be bombed withut any delay. Those who talk about human rights group, go and see what has happened to minority in Pakistan and Bangladesh and then speak.
RE:Error of Judgment
by riir on Aug 02, 2007 12:01 AM Permalink
Jehan Mir, are u a paki? If yes what are you doing on a Indian website? If your not a paki but an Indian, then why are you not supporting an attack on our enemy? Tell us clearly where your loyalty lies. If your loyalty is with pakistan, in that case you are free to go to that country.
RE:Error of Judgment
by Jehan Mir on Aug 02, 2007 12:20 AM Permalink
My loyalty lies with US,which gets hurt most every time by incompetent leaders and their foolish strategies.
RE:Error of Judgment
by riir on Aug 02, 2007 12:40 AM Permalink
Do you agree with the war in afganistan, war in iraq, war on terror? do u support our troups? Do you support the patriot act? In fact by saying that US should NOT go after terrorists in pakiland who have killed more than 3200 US troups, you show where your loyalty lies (its certainly not with the US). In fact you are not alone. Only 28% of American Muslims consider themselves American..others choose to be identified as Muslims.
RE:Error of Judgment
by mr on Aug 02, 2007 12:31 AM Permalink
So, you were happy when Indians were killed by your paki? Now it sours when you feel pressure in the abdomen?
RE:Error of Judgment
by Indian Analyst on Aug 02, 2007 12:04 AM Permalink
Jehan Mir, -It is not immaturity, but succint realization ! Either they can sit on the fence (like India) and see taliban regroup and NATO can face attacks or they can deal with the menace conclusively. -Pak has a lot to lose too if US breaks away from PAK. -More border troops from South Korea will not help as the problem is not troops: It is PAK's inaction in FATA. -Is it not common knowledge on where the taliban is regrouping, al qaeda is getting protection and strength and NATO and American troops are getting hit and run incidents ? -PAK has literally dragged its feet in the last 5 yrs and has proved to be unreliable.
Obama voted against Irag war ! He might actually have a better grip than you on what's happenning on the ground in FATA.
RE:RE:Error of Judgment
by Jehan Mir on Aug 02, 2007 12:31 AM Permalink
You can sit on the fence and see Talibans. Great,It must be Indian Third Eye or Astrological forecast at work.
RE:RE:Error of Judgment
by Jehan Mir on Aug 02, 2007 12:26 AM Permalink
Obama really knows where terrorists are ! Must be Indian Intelligence at work as usual.
RE:Error of Judgment
by mr on Aug 01, 2007 11:55 PM Permalink
This means those terrorist paki are innocents, those who use grande are innocents? How many days telling vietnam & further doing attrocities aganist people by using terrorism etc.
He being a Muslim, Barak(is an Arabic Name), His father name Hussain and family Obama, trying to show US public with his statements that he can take firm action against a fellow Muslim if elected.
Weather he attack Pakistan or not one thing is for sure he will choke the Indian economy by cutting off access to US market if get elected.
RE:Barak Hussain Obama
by saurabh srivastava on Aug 02, 2007 12:45 AM Permalink
dude... india is too huge and big to be sidelined by USA.....dun even think that...we are almost everywhere in world today....US IT market is run by indians these days......and above all...USA can never ignore INDIA...it's toohuge and lucrative for them to ignore....OK
RE:Barak Hussain Obama
by P Zipk on Aug 02, 2007 12:50 AM Permalink
Obama is not a Muslim. He is a Christian. But you are right about the Arabic background of his name and Hussein being his middle name.
This is to win the PIO support - esp. after the he antagonized the Indians with his Hillary -Punjab comment. Also to disassociate further from his Hussaini lineage!
Kashmir also has lots of terrorist training camps. Why should you spare that? Warn Indian Congress govt. to stop waging their tails and do some biting..... or else US will do that by itself
RE:Wat ab kashmir?
by sunil Rawat on Aug 01, 2007 11:25 PM Permalink
Which side of Kashmir you are talking about ? Indian gov have been warnings Pak about that from time to time. It's useless. Now Mr. Obama can do it.
RE:Wat ab kashmir?
by ezekielrage on Aug 01, 2007 11:45 PM Permalink
I dont know about you guys, but i would not want american forces on the asian subcontinent.
RE:Wat ab kashmir?
by Mukesh on Aug 02, 2007 01:30 AM Permalink
India has done lot on indian side and still doing. But dirtistan needs to kill those suicide bombers before they kill others, and thats not happening. So, its better US attack them and break their legs for ever.
RE:There are other ways for you.
by mr on Aug 01, 2007 11:16 PM Permalink
These message only for pakistan to learn lesson & be responsible for its actions. All things we need to tell them with if only. The people attacked US are still hiding in Pakistan. They didn't attack any other himalayan country, they attacked US. It is US responsiblity to tell if condition.
I dont like this idiot's message...His statement has lot of "if" conditions like "actionable intelligence" and "if musharaf doesn't act". These are all political attractions. We have enough evidence that Pakistan is promoting terrorism and it is root of all evils. You have enough intelligence reports; so, simply go ahead and attack all terror camps. Being a neighbour coutry we have our restrictions to attack them. But you can terrify them and we will extend all necessary supports.
