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A open letter to Indians!
by kausar perwez on Apr 28, 2007 12:26 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

Dear Friends,
How much deaf and blind you are my dear friend Mr Chattppadhyay. How you are only blaming Muslims for each and every thing. You know who are running the Parallel Government in India?? You know one of the forces in our country that is RSS? You know one another force ruled by Bal Thakeray? You know another parallel force ruled by Bajrang Dal? Do you know Raju Bhaiya at Pratapgarh, UP. Your can go any extend to justify the killing of Muslims. We also know that there was also one another parallel force ruled by D company, thank God it has been labeled as a terrorist, he was spoiling the Indians. But why not all these forces are also labeled as terrorist groups. They also kill the innocent Indians whenever they get opportunity. Why these people are always respected as brave son of India??? Only because they are Hindus?? Do Hindus have free license to kill Muslims? Do Hindus never commit any mistakes or crime? Why you people never accept that these Hindus can also do these types of terrorist activity for their self centered goal. Why you all are watching the small mistake of Muslims only. Over all we all are human being and people are doing good and bad things in day to life. If you thing that killing a Hindu a terrorist activity then you should have to accept that killing an Indian Muslim is also a terrorist activity. There is no if and but for these type of most awful crime. How much hard and rigid a Hindu can become I can't believe it, however they always pretend to be a humble and an innocent human being. They killed pregnant women (in Gujarat riot) and now killed the innocent woman. Please don't give other county's example to hide or justify your crime. Crime is always a crime. If you believe on God then he is watching all of us. May God bless and make all of us a good human being.

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RE:A open letter to Indians!
by Ramesh Patel on Apr 29, 2007 07:06 AM  Permalink
ACCORDING TO YOU KAUSHARBIBI INNOCENT?
SHE WAS A SUPPORTER OF SORABUDDIN.DON'T YOU KNOW THIS FACT?
What happened was the wish of ALLAH?
Do you have faith in ALLAH?
A TRUE INDIAN

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RE:A open letter to Indians!
by Indian Guy on Apr 28, 2007 12:40 PM  Permalink
Dear Kausar you are right. India is of all Indians and Hindus, Muslims, Christians, Sikhs, Buddhists, Jains and all other religions make India. We must be ashamed of any killing as these are Indians who are killed. I am a Indian first and then a Hindu. Also being an Indian is our first identity and then our religion.

There are some childish people who are bent upon dividing us. My heart really laments at seeing these posts that an innocent indian lady is killed in cold blooded murder and people are rejoicing that a muslim lady is dead. GUYS SHE WAS NOT A TERRORIST. These guys i.e. police men must be brought to justice. In night how many of us feel protected when we see a police jeep and we are in the dark going with our sisters or wife or girl friends. I dont think any one would say yeh we feel protected. Lets change this corrupt system. Muslims have equally shed bolld in making of this country and lets accept it. Be it Abdul Hameed or our PM or our jawans in army. There might be many mis guided youth but they dont make the majority. Also what about the corrupt Hindus who kill by selling adulterated milk and what not. What about the Hindu business men who never pay taxes ... are these not gaddar who will do anything to harm this country.....GUYS INDIA IS AS MUCH OF EVERY MUSLIM AS IS OF ANY OTHER RELIGION SO PLEASE DONT BREAK OUR HARMONY AND PLEASE BEAR RESTRAINT WHEN POSTING ON REDIFF.......... I AM GOING TO FILE A PIL AGAINST REDIFF AS THIS IS FOSTERING HATRED AMONG US...........I AM ASHAMED AT SEEING MANY COMMENTS AND I AM STILL HAPPY THAT MOST OF MY MUSLIM BROTHERS ARE NOT DROPPING DOWN TO THE LEVEL IN WHICH SOME PEOPLE ARE PUTTING COMMENTS AGAINST ISLAM ....

INDIAN

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Encounter
by Chandu on Apr 28, 2007 11:02 AM  Permalink  | Hide replies

Dear Rediff Editor

Why are you making this news so big issue.? as if it has not happened any other states like, UP, Bihar, West Bengal, AP or any other.

If you have given task of blaming Guj Govt by congress or Left, use your brain tell congress people if you blames Mr Modi for every small thing it leads nothing but further polarization of votes and advantage Mr. Modi.

I m not supporting encounter, it has happened in other parts of World, remember UK, police killed someone by mistake.

Instead of playing politics to defame Mr. Modi, why dont you take up issues like , Do we need Police? or Abolish the age old police systems and have new professional body like Metropolitan police with more professinal recruitments. Please give you advise and take advise of IIMs or any FBI or any.

God bless you

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Root cause isvote bank politics
by Chiru on Apr 28, 2007 10:22 AM  Permalink 

It is very sad to hear that such things happen. I do not approve of fake encounter if the muslim who is killed is not a criminal. But if he is a criminal I fully justify because our justice system protects the criminals who are behind killings of 1000 hindus in Hyderabad (1990), Mumbai bomb blasts and killing of millions of hindus in Kashmir.

In Islamic countries such killings happen and the victims are non-muslims. There won't be any arrests and everything is justified by majority muslims as it is considered sentence from Allah.

Watch the videos:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WLoasfOLpQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYB4pG3kHIY

Another good article
http://www.path2usa.com/articles/article_murali0121.htm

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Modi will use the video where Muslim Mohalla eurpted in Joy after 3 IPS officers were caught!
by Bhaskar Chattopadhyay on Apr 28, 2007 10:00 AM  Permalink  | Hide replies


Remember Afzal, the parliament attacker?

Now the new hero is this guy who has 55/56 cases against him.

30-40 AK-47s were found from his place. 3 Different states filed cases against him. Very serious cases.

That doesn't make him perfect shooting target, but he was not a 'innocent' either!

Time to wake up for Secular and Muslims.

They need to make better heroes than these criminals.

Modi will use the video where Muslim Mohalla eurpted in Joy after 3 IPS officers were caught.

Secular , Muslim heroes are almost always criminal, terrorists!

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RE:Modi will use the video where Muslim Mohalla eurpted in Joy after 3 IPS officers were caught!
by AmarAkbarAnthony on Apr 28, 2007 11:53 AM  Permalink
Grow up kid - you must know how much the Indian police is corrupted.

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Dismantle police
by Sunil Agrawal on Apr 28, 2007 09:38 AM  Permalink  | Hide replies

Extortion, rape, contract killing, abusive language, bribe, insulting anyone anywhere- this is our police.
When new recruit join police he/she becomes like the their senior counter part. We should dismantle our police infrastructure and should start afresh.

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RE:Dismantle police
by Bhaskar Chattopadhyay on Apr 28, 2007 10:04 AM  Permalink

When Indian cities are attack almost daily by terrorists, Maoists - nobody will speak against defense forces. Forget doing anything.

Cong's effort to extract political mileage out of this will push them even further down.

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What CPIM says about Nandigram!
by Bhaskar Chattopadhyay on Apr 28, 2007 08:43 AM  Permalink  | Hide replies

At least Police worked in this case. Not like Nandigram where CPIM cadres and Police collaborated and killed innocent people, INCLUDING MUSLIMS.

Did BJP/VHP/RSS cadres go with Gujarat Police and killed these people? Obviously no.

CPIM is trying for Muslim Vote. But its mask has fallen off after Nandigram to rest of India.

PLUS NOBODY REALLY CARES WHAT HAPPENED TO A PERSON AGAINST WHOSE NAME SOME 55 CASES WERE LODGED.

AND WHEN TERRORISTS ARE ATTACKING INDIA EVERY DAY.

ITS UNFORTUNATE, BUT ITS TRUE.

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RE:What CPIM says about Nandigram!
by AmarAkbarAnthony on Apr 28, 2007 11:58 AM  Permalink
Seems like you believe whatever Police and Political leaders show - which is not truth. If you really care about India - follow the path of truth - believe in yourself.

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Its true Muslims get harsh treatment sometimes from law enforcement egencies
by Bhaskar Chattopadhyay on Apr 28, 2007 08:35 AM  Permalink  | Hide replies

Its true Muslims get harsh treatment sometimes from law enforcement egencies.

Its across all states. Not limited to Gujarat under Modi rule.

If anybody reads the treatment meted to Muslims caught after Mumbai Riot/Blast will be horrified.

Who was ruling then? Its Congress.

Yes, I mourn the death of this lady, of its proven.

But Muslims also think 100 times why its happening. I think root of the problems are:

1. Jusidicary is failing.

2. Its undisputed fact that proportion of Muslim representation in Dacoity, crime is much more than their population percentage.

3. WHEN POLICE GOES TO CATCH ANY PERSON FROM MUSLIM MOHALLA, PEOPLE START ATTACKING POLICE.

Prior to recent 711 Mumbai blasts, we know what happened to a Maharashtra City where Muslim Mob attacked police, and some even died. Police was claiming their property which they legally own.

In Hyderabad, and many many other places - Muslim Mob attacked police station. It happened in Delhi few days back.

One cannot clap in one hand. While most of Indian Muslim community are law abiding, it cannot be ignored either that Muslim Criminals take refuse under religion when in trouble.

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RE:Its true Muslims get harsh treatment sometimes from law enforcement egencies
by Bhaskar Chattopadhyay on Apr 28, 2007 08:37 AM  Permalink

Under COngress rule, most horrendous crimes have been committed in places like Moradabad.

Not 2, but 20-30 Muslim youth were picked up by PAC, then killed in cold blood. Nothing happened so far.

Lalu didn't pursue horrendous Riot of Bhagalpur which took place in Bihar in late 1980s UNDER CONGRESS RULE.

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RE:Its true Muslims get harsh treatment sometimes from law enforcement egencies
by AandTattey on Apr 28, 2007 08:55 AM  Permalink
PAC picked those youths in Meerut. They were killed in cold blood in bodies dumped near rail tracks/nullah. And no action was taken for that. PAC is well notorious for hand-in-glove with gov.But it can also be mentioned that without PAC, many sensitive cities in UP will be Muslim controlled in entirety. I agree to this that they take law into their hand very easily and somebody shud be there to control them like PAC in UP, Sena in Mumbai et al.

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RE:Its true Muslims get harsh treatment sometimes from law enforcement egencies
by on Apr 28, 2007 12:12 PM  Permalink
I do not know how many people belong to UP here but please you might not be knowing the facts that had it not been PAC most of the Hindus would have been wiped from Muslim dominated cities in UP. I know I might sound stupid but this is the reality my dear friends

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RE:Its true Muslims get harsh treatment sometimes from law enforcement egencies
by Bhaskar Chattopadhyay on Apr 28, 2007 09:10 AM  Permalink

Yes, it was meerut. It was my momentary memory lapse.

But why Muslims attacked Police in a Maharashtra City days before Mumbai711 blast?

Didn;t Maharashtra Police won the case in COurt and started building a Police station there?

ITS these types of actions which make police more brutal against section of Muslims.

NOWEHRE IN THE WORLD, BE IN EUROPE, USA ADMINISTRATION WILL ALLOW HOODLUMS TO RUN PARALLEL ADMIN, ATTACK POLICE.

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RE:[object]
by AandTattey on Apr 28, 2007 09:20 AM  Permalink
I fully agree with the points mentioned above
2-3 paragraphs..

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RE:Its true Muslims get harsh treatment sometimes from law enforcement egencies
by venky prasad on Apr 28, 2007 11:34 AM  Permalink
"It was my momentary memory lapse."

Is that what you call blind hatred for a community?


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RE:Its true Muslims get harsh treatment sometimes from law enforcement egencies
by AmarAkbarAnthony on Apr 28, 2007 12:03 PM  Permalink
Police, they are brutal. You cant find one policeman who is truthful.

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RE:RE:Its true Muslims get harsh treatment sometimes from law enforcement egencies
by kausar perwez on Apr 28, 2007 12:17 PM  Permalink
How much deaf and blind you are my dear friend Mr Chattppadhyay. How you are only blaming Muslims for each and every thing. You know who are running the Parallel Government in India?? You know one of the forces in our country that is RSS? You know one another force ruled by Bal Thakeray? You know another parallel force ruled by Bajrang Dal? Do you know Raju Bhaiya at Pratapgarh, UP. Your can go any extend to justify the killing of Muslims. We also know that there was also one another parallel force ruled by D company, thank God it has been labeled as a terrorist, he was spoiling the Indians. But why not all these forces are also labeled as terrorist groups. They also kill the innocent Indians whenever they get opportunity. Why these people are always respected as brave son of India??? Only because they are Hindus?? Do Hindus have free license to kill Muslims? Do Hindus never commit any mistakes or crime? Why you people never accept that these Hindus can also do these types of terrorist activity for their self centered goal. Why you all are watching the small mistake of Muslims only. Over all we all are human being and people are doing good and bad things in day to life. If you thing that killing a Hindu a terrorist activity then you should have to accept that killing an Indian Muslim is also a terrorist activity. There is no if and but for these type of most awful crime. How much hard and rigid a Hindu can become I can't believe it, however they always pretend to humble and innocent human being. They killed pregnant women (in Gujarat riot) and killed the innocent woman now. Please don%u2019t give other county's example to hide or justify your crime. Crime is always a crime. If you believe on God then he is watching all of us. May God bless and make all of us a good human being.

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FAKE ENCOUNTER
by j p on Apr 28, 2007 07:31 AM  Permalink  | Hide replies

Tell me any real encounter, all most all encounters r fake.but its basic necessity as our judiciary system is not working properly.

What can the Police do? If they catch hold of a Criminal Like Afzal and bring him to the court, the court sentences him to Death but the Govt does not execute the Punishment - So they might have thought fake encounters are the only way to punish the criminals
ONly problem with gujarat police is they dont know how to do encounter? atleast maharastra can help gujarat police in this case.
HOpe by any means police is able to remove some mud from our society.
God bless our real police hero and military becoze of them we r alive....



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RE:FAKE ENCOUNTER
by Omar Shariff on Apr 28, 2007 08:50 AM  Permalink
god bless our real polise hero who many times gang rape women who go police station to give complaint.

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RE:FAKE ENCOUNTER
by AmarAkbarAnthony on Apr 28, 2007 12:07 PM  Permalink
You think police is removing mud from our society - who knows how many innocent peoples are victims of encounter that police has been doing. Criminals are born - they are made by the society. Its a challenge to all to clean our society not just kill. Police simply kill some innocent people and project them as terrorists and get rewards and promotions. You must know the complete police system then speak about it.

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RE:FAKE ENCOUNTER
by aslisach on Apr 28, 2007 08:56 AM  Permalink
The Problem with Gujarat is not ,they don't know how to do encounter. The only problem is the police has been preached that muslims are terrorist. They are not taught what is right or wrong. Police in Maharastra who did encounters where not biased with any religion, they where killing criminals. Whereas Gujarat is a lab for all those idiots preaching, They do all unconstitutional stuff under the very nose of constitution. We ave mud leachers like Pravin thogadia, Modi who should be cleaned. Till the land is ruled by Modi , i think this things will go on happen. GOd bless our real police hero's like sreekumar who have inspite of there faith did the correct justice and who didn't bend to corruptive psychos like Modi .

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RE:FAKE ENCOUNTER
by Bhaskar Chattopadhyay on Apr 28, 2007 09:12 AM  Permalink

Again trying to oild same old machine: Modi!

Wake up. Police everwhere is brutal. Not limited to Gujarat.

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RE:FAKE ENCOUNTER
by Shalin Vasavada on Apr 28, 2007 09:15 AM  Permalink
"TusliRAM Prajapati" does that name look to you Muslim??? kindly brush up your knowldege on this issue. Criminal has no religion and as always we try to think it is one more Muslim who has been killed in Gujarat! good try...!

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RE:FAKE ENCOUNTER
by Bhaskar Chattopadhyay on Apr 28, 2007 09:56 AM  Permalink

Prajapati had 55/56 cases against Him! Did u know that?

That doesn;t make him to be shot dead, but he was not a "innocent" either.

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Sad way to die
by Chiru on Apr 28, 2007 07:11 AM  Permalink  | Hide replies

It is very sad to hear that such things happen. I do not approve of fake encounter if the muslim who is killed is not a criminal. But if he is a criminal I fully justify because our justice system protects the criminals who are behind killings of 1000 hindus in Hyderabad (1990), Mumbai bomb blasts and killing of millions of hindus in Kashmir.

In Islamic countries such killings happen and the victims are non-muslims. There won't be any arrests and everything is justified by majority muslims as it is considered sentence from Allah.

Watch the videos:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WLoasfOLpQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYB4pG3kHIY

Another good article
http://www.path2usa.com/articles/article_murali0121.htm

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RE:Sad way to die
by SNA on Apr 28, 2007 08:55 AM  Permalink
Mr Chiru,
For you Statement "In Islamic countries such killings happen and the victims are non-muslims". Even for Muslims the punishment will be the same.

And about the youtube links you have published you have been marketing those video since quite a while. Please have a look at this following link as well.
Please don't form hasty, un biased and false opinion.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ouwcJ4Tgus


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RE:Sad way to die
by AandTattey on Apr 28, 2007 09:11 AM  Permalink
If bajrangdal/rass are gutter class, then what is the class of Madrasas which preach terrorism, right away to impressionable aged youths. If these organisation don't exist , it will be very difficult for us to live/exist in our country only....

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RE:Sad way to die
by AmarAkbarAnthony on Apr 28, 2007 12:14 PM  Permalink
Grow up kid - talk something sensible. The number you are showing is nothing when compared to the killing of muslims in Gujarat and other parts of india by the hindu activists with the help of political leaders.

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RE:[object]
by on Apr 28, 2007 12:25 PM  Permalink
well Mr AmarAkbar what about the millions og hindus who were killed in Pakistan and Bangladesh. At the time of partition there were 12% Hindus in Pakistan but there are not more then 2.5% Whjere have they gone... Do the minority have the same rights as muslims in any muslim dominated country..You guys just keep your mouth shut when you demand for equal rights and justice when you religion is based on no rights and no vice for a non muslim. You guys would be exterminated from the face of this earth very soon.

India

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RE:Sad way to die
by on Apr 28, 2007 12:21 PM  Permalink
Truely said pal. Islam is the cancer of the modern world. These guys dont believe that other religions are path to God. Their prophet only believed in Killing those who didnt believe in his religion.

These are terrorist and cancer of modern times. They would have to perish so that modern world becomes free of this terror.

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RE:Sad way to die
by aslisach on Apr 28, 2007 08:48 AM  Permalink
I am surprised to hear from my friend chiru abt his lack of knowledge of sharia systems. If any persons kill another man. only his life will do the justice. It is irrespective of if ur rich man or ur non muslim. hand for hand, life for life. Your are moron just got out of the gutter of bajrag dal/rss class.
Its place of Modi's Narnia Land, where they will make it look like every other muslim is a terrorist. Its a shame .
People of Hyderabad are happy ,Plz dont drag ur idiocity and spread hatred ere. This is not Modi's Narnia .

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Main issues is
by tar sha on Apr 28, 2007 06:31 AM  Permalink 

Main problem with the incident is that the police did not kill Shohrabuddin in larger public interest; but at the request of some industrialists who has political connection. If this is not curbed, any body with money can ask police to kill anyone in name of "Encounter".

And who says that there were cases on Shahrudding, i am sure there are many MPs with similar cases in our parliament. And there are 100s of MLAs in UP/Bihar etc states with more serious cases on them. Why police dont do anything there?

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