Note that SC has said that its a final order and not an interim order. What a judgement ...!
It's time for arjun Singh and UPA govt. to step down for trying to create APARTHEIT. SC has again made us to think rationally as we dont want to see the people being recognised by the caste but by his deed.
It is very sad to see our corrupt political system now detemined to destroy the elite educational institutions of the world like IITs and IIMs. Let the corrupt and self seekers keep off from such temples of education which have brought we Indians glory in the entire world.
Let politicians be busy breaking laws , instead of making them for their own political gain.
They have ample oppurtuniyies favoured as "honourable" members for misuse like 1.railway tickets with attendants 2.LPG connections 3.Diplomatic passports 4."constitueccy" devolopment funds. etc etc
Why rob poor public who work for their future to push their wealth and for getting elected again.
At least supreme court so far has maintained the value for "honourable" staus.
RE:politicians and country
by on Apr 23, 2007 04:29 PM Permalink
It is only the Supreme Court which seem to be running the country, city of Delhi and transport system of Delhi. Politicians are bent upon destroying the country and filling their own pockets.
RE:politicians and country
by AR Krishnamurty on Apr 23, 2007 05:20 PM Permalink
I THINK IT IS HIGH TIME FOR ALL THE POLITICIANS TO BE ACCOUNTABLE. IF THEY ARE DOING ANY WRONG THING TO GET VOTE BANK POLITICS, HIS MP OR MLA SHIP SHOULD BE STRIPPED OFF AND HE SHOULD BE BARRED FOR CONTESTING IN FUTURE. THE SUPRE COURT SHOULD ASK THE ELECTION COMMISSION TO TAKE ACTION AGAINST SUCH POLITICIANS. LET US UNDERSTAND ONE THINK - THE RESERVATION SHOULD BE UP TO SCHOOL LEVEL OR GRADUATION. NOT IN THE ELITE EDUCATION TEMPLES SUCH AS IITS IIMS ETC. THE POLITICIANS ARE REALLY NOT INTERESTED TO HELP ANY BODY FOR THAT MATTER TO MINORITIIES, OBCS, ETC ETC. THEY WANT TO HELP THEMSELVES. THERE SHOULD ALSO BE STANDARD FOR THE MPS AND MLAS WHO SHOULD CONTEST. I THINK THIS CAN ALSO BE DONE BY SUPREME COURT ONLY AS ELECTION COMMISSION NOW A DAYS ARE NOT LIKE SESHAN MATERIALS. THEY ARE THE CHAMCHAS OF UPA AND CONGRESS. THATS THE REASONS NO ACTION ON CRIMINALS/FRAUDS CONTESTING FOR ELECTION TO WHOM IAS/IPSS ARE REQUIRED TO REPORT. WE ALL SHOULD REQUEST SUPREME COURT TO SET A YARDSTICS FOR THE MPS/MLAS POSITION AND ELIGIBILITY FOR CONTESTING. ANYBODY WITH ANY CRIMINAL BACK GROUND SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED. LOOK AT PEOPLE LIKE SAHABUDDIN, LALU, ETC. WITH SO MANY CHARGES ARE MPS. LOOK AT SIDHU HOW HE CAME OUT OF THE AGNI PARIKSHA. AND THE MAN WHO IS A MURDER HAS STILL NOT BE SACKED BY THE PM - SHIBU SOREN. I THINK THE WHOLE SYSTEM HAS TO BE THOROULY OVERHAULED TO GET RID OFF THIS CURROPT POLITICIANS. WE ALL SHOULD RISE TO THE OCCASSION AND RAISE OUR VOICE FROM WHATEVER FORUM WE GET. LET US BE BOLD AND BE A PROUD GLOBAL INDIAN NOT A RESERVED INDIAN. JAI HIND.
Shameful politicians - embarking on Caste Politics, thus disallowing nation's progress.
The benefit of such reservations, etc. should be given to Economically Weaker Sections irrespective of Caste, which will certainly provide ways for improvement of nation, atleast by 2020.
RE:Wonderful SC!
by Anup Jangpangi on Apr 23, 2007 04:48 PM Permalink
I totally agree with you. This type of excerise should be taken from now onwards for good and never before an election as has been the case this timme by the UPA govt.
IF SC itself is dominated by upper caste/ brahmins, HOW DO YOU EXPECT THE SOCIAL JUSTICE FROM THEM. IN THE OLDEN DAYS THSES UPPER CASTE PEOPLE KEPT EVERY THING WITH THEM INCLUDING EDUCATION AND NOT ALLOWED ANY LOWER CASTE PEOPLE TO COME UP. ARJUN SINGH IS DOING A GREAT JOB.HE IS GIVING THEIR RIGHT TO THESE PEOPLE.
RE:UPPER CASTE DOMINATION
by devendra singh on Apr 23, 2007 04:27 PM Permalink
U Sick, Alwaz talk about quota . If u hav ability get it. y u talk abt quota. Arjun Singh is bloodyfool.
RE:UPPER CASTE DOMINATION
by Raghavendra Badiger on Apr 23, 2007 04:31 PM Permalink
Hi, These facts for you dude. Please check out the history. India was most ruled by OBCS and SC/STs only a small part or small time India was ruled by Upper Castes. Adn about the education, Britishers destroyed our education systems. The SC/STs were excellent in Surgeries and other high tech in the Olden days. Please refer hsitory. There were many institutions were 70-80% were from OBS and SC/STs. These Brits came and divided our society. Please if you are OBC or SC understand the history and the truth. Even I am OBC.
RE:UPPER CASTE DOMINATION
by HEMANSHU KOTHARI on Apr 23, 2007 04:27 PM Permalink
why dont your arjun singh reserve 5 hands out of 10 for OBC, 2 for Sc/St 1 eye out of 2 for OBCSC,sT etc. when the god has made no difference who the hell this politicians are to do the reservations. this is just they are using for thier vote bank. india is independant since 50 years and still they are playing reservation politics. if they have to uplift the lower class they would have done it long back but thats not their main intention
RE:UPPER CASTE DOMINATION
by venkat on Apr 23, 2007 04:26 PM Permalink
CJ is a dalit and 40% of the judges are OBCs. I have the facts with me from a friend of mine who is a supreme court lawyer. Also, one of the 2 judges in this case is a OBC.
RE:UPPER CASTE DOMINATION
by rationalbeing being on Apr 23, 2007 04:32 PM Permalink
upper caste might had done in the past,but we are not living in the past.so ur arguments and accusations towards the upper castes are false. subhomay
RE:UPPER CASTE DOMINATION
by Om Gautam on Apr 23, 2007 04:45 PM Permalink
You have rightly pointed out that higher caste is the owner of every thing. Getting some thing or beg some thing, it is not possible from them. They are rule maker. They are rule breaker. How a begger can dictate some thing to donner. Donner has all the right. Take an example, that schedule caste reseveration is 15% then remaining is 85%. Is it 85% is not reserved for hiher category. The right thing could be give the reseravation based upon their population. If somebody think that higher caste is more intenlligent then the reserve category. it is a mistake. If you want an intelligent people to run the country then why you look from India only. Why dont go to Global Tender to run the country as existing people are not comepetent to run the country. There is daily change in constition, daily law is changing, supereme court daily comments on the working of the Government. Supereme Court is a custodian of the Indian Constition. Neither suprem court is understanding the parliament and nor parliament is understanding the real law. It is joke on the cost of public money. There are daily scam and after sometime scam becomes legal. These are all the game of Higher caste. Please dont expect any thing from them.
RE:UPPER CASTE DOMINATION
by timola on Apr 23, 2007 04:25 PM Permalink
Achoot praani, how can you oppose the ruling of the Supreme Court, the sovereign pedestal of justice in our country? You should be tried for contempt of court.
RE:UPPER CASTE DOMINATION
by pradeep agarwal on Apr 23, 2007 04:25 PM Permalink
You moron the current Chief Justice is a Dalit but a person of highest inegrity & meritorious.
RE:UPPER CASTE DOMINATION
by neeta pai on Apr 23, 2007 04:26 PM Permalink
You are being utterly shameless!!!... get the seats and jobs on your merit.. dont fight for quotas and prove your incapability!!
RE:UPPER CASTE DOMINATION
by JA on Apr 23, 2007 04:36 PM Permalink
So you mean to say that You people want reservation only in education not in JOBS? If there is a reservation in education then why in jobs and viceversa...why deprive general class from both? isnt this reverse discrimination u punk....
RE:UPPER CASTE DOMINATION
by Vinay Gupta on Apr 23, 2007 04:27 PM Permalink
Bhai, It is true that some of u will get benefit from reservation but think in long term. It is going to harm the country.
Ask for improvement in education system. Ask for fair judicial system etc etc. Reservation is shortcut which is harmful in long run
RE:UPPER CASTE DOMINATION
by Jayaraman .T.S on Apr 23, 2007 04:37 PM Permalink
One should try to attain progress in life through hard work,sincerity and dedication rather than trying to snatch the benefits from other deserving candidates by giving caste colour to everything.Days are not far off when these people will start saying that they only have the right to live in India by virtue of their caste.The truth is that they want to have everything without applying their brains or doing hard work.
RE:UPPER CASTE DOMINATION
by ranjan on Apr 23, 2007 04:27 PM Permalink
What do want MAN ? Why don't you force GOVT to spend enough money on primary & secondary education where your children can get better education rather than providing a no competition in IITs & IIMs just on the name of CASTE !
RE:UPPER CASTE DOMINATION
by Anil Kumar on Apr 23, 2007 04:28 PM Permalink
YOU SAID IT CORRECTLY. THE BACKWARD COMMUNITY IS LOSTED THE TRUST ON COURT. THE CONSTITUTION AMENDMENT IS THE BETTER WAY TO GET RESERVATION ON THE ELITE INSTITUTION, THE UPPERCAST HAVING GOOD POWER ON THE COURTS SO THE BACK WARD COMMUNITY NEVER GET ANY RIGHT FM THIS UPPERCAST JUDGES
RE:UPPER CASTE DOMINATION
by Periapatty Subramaniam on Apr 23, 2007 04:32 PM Permalink
DEAR BROTHER, THE POLITICIANS ARE MISLEADING THE B.C'S.. IF THE OBC'S ARE GIVEN 27% RESERVATION, THE RICHER AMONG THE O..B.C'C ONLY ARE GOING TO BENEFIT... INSTEAD, ALL OF US SHOULD FIGHT FOR THE REMOVAL OF THE CREAMY LAYER AND MAKE THE RESERVATION APPLICABLE ONLY FOR ECONOMICALLY WEAK CATEGORIES OF B.C'S AND O.B.C'S
RE:UPPER CASTE DOMINATION
by Manish Nandgaonkar on Apr 23, 2007 04:32 PM Permalink
What ARUJ Singh is doing is keeping you people lower cast always and on that keep seeking the vote. Even after 60 yrs you have been called DALIT. And who said Brahmin cannot be poor. Cast does not matter. Wake up. Reservation should be on Economic basis and not on cast basis. Enough you guys. Understand the politics behind it. Even after another 100 yrs you people will remain DALIT and Lower cast. So it is better to correct the problem now. Send you kids to scholld rather that relying on Quota. Curb population. 2 % edu cess is there and demand quta at school level rather begging at Job, Promotion and Premier Edu level without merit. Prove Yourself.
RE:Brahmins should be kicked out of Inida.
by HEMANSHU KOTHARI on Apr 23, 2007 04:28 PM Permalink
THATS GOOD BECAUSE ONLY CAPABLE PERSON WILL SURVIVE OUTSIDE INDIA WITH OUT BACKING OF RESERVATION POLICY AND U ADMIT THAT BRAHMINS ARE CAPABLE BY YOUR STATEMENT
RE:Brahmins should be kicked out of Inida.
by Abhinav Bhatnagar on Apr 23, 2007 04:24 PM Permalink
Think before yu speak. Haterd breeds haterd, not solutions.
RE:RE:Brahmins should be kicked out of Inida.
by jcraghu99 on Apr 23, 2007 04:32 PM Permalink
Hi, These facts for you dude. Please check out the history. India was most ruled by OBCS and SC/STs only a small part or small time India was ruled by Upper Castes. Adn about the education, Britishers destroyed our education systems. The SC/STs were excellent in Surgeries and other high tech in the Olden days. Please refer hsitory. There were many institutions were 70-80% were from OBS and SC/STs. These Brits came and divided our society. Please if you are OBC or SC understand the history and the truth. Even I am OBC.
RE:Brahmins should be kicked out of Inida.
by ravi chandran on Apr 23, 2007 04:28 PM Permalink
yes Mr Remy by the by are you an indian, your name doesnt suggest so, first you vacate this country
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by JA on Apr 23, 2007 04:27 PM Permalink
abe saale yeh desh upper cast wale chalate hain... how many of u beggers are even paying income tax???
I just fail to understand how can any parameter be justified for reservation, be it economic condition, cast, religion or sex. Is the job for poverty eradication? Every job require some results to be delivered.
Why we are not discussing this point? So 1931 or any thing else is irrelevant. Reservation shud be scraped.
Moreover. One more question shud be asked from Congress ( Congress bcoz yhey ruled for most of the time). Reservation is sign of weakness/ backwardness. Incresing reservation means country has become more backward after independence.
RE:QUOTA
by pradeep agarwal on Apr 23, 2007 04:28 PM Permalink
Pl;ease don't mention about that traitor responsible for death of so many innocent college going boys & girls in post mandal agitation.Nature has made him go through the same pain which he caused to the entire naion.