Any Indian or for that matter any innocent life being snuffed out is bad. The geographical boundaries between countries is irrevelant for an educated and qualified person.Had he got a good job in India perhaps he would have lived here. We cannot sit on judgement about his decision of going to US for a job in this hour of grief. We can only pray for his soul. The so called hype is there not because some body died in US but the manner in which they were slain by some idiot.
RE:Loganathan
by Girish Rao on Apr 18, 2007 03:06 PM Permalink
He is a US citizen and we feel sad, there is no need for Indian Govt to react or get involved officially or for the news channels to hype endlessly about Loganathan. He was a good guy fine and good end of story. Why the hype.
RE:Loganathan
by Manjula on Apr 18, 2007 04:33 PM Permalink
Girish Rao , you are very prejudiced even in death , think if some one from your family dies similarly or from your community, you are the first ones to talk differently then .Hypocrates!
RE:Loganathan
by Gopi nath on Apr 18, 2007 03:33 PM Permalink
We must realise something important here...whether NRI's remember motherland or not, NATION does not let any NRI feel alone..that too when Indian abroad is in trouble...SO..whether NRI's serve motherland or not, INDIA will always tell the world that she cares a lot for her children.....and no NRI will be left orphan abroad.....Can you please understand the spirit in this...thanx a ton !!! Jai Hind
RE:Loganathan
by bahmophet on Apr 18, 2007 03:48 PM Permalink
yes, mr. rao/vijay. once a guy goes abroad, he accepts the conditions there. u cant play cricket with the rules of football. america cannot become india in social envt.
RE:Loganathan
by mohammed sajeed ashraf on Apr 18, 2007 05:11 PM Permalink
hi girish, man should have been a political leader, u said he is us citizen, what do u think about kalpana chawla an astranaut, and present astraunaut even whose mother in not an indian origin, u didnt say thing that time. u put collor on and said we indians.
Religion, Boundaries everthing should come after the humanity.
RE:Loganathan
by mahesh jindal on Apr 18, 2007 07:45 PM Permalink
Iam feeling too proud of sajeed for the kind words he has used.Sajeed you are a pios human being.God Bless You
RE:Loganathan
by bharat on Apr 18, 2007 03:18 PM Permalink
Girish Rao, This is not a forum on the performance of the Indian cricket team. Please understand the sensitivity of the issue before shooting off comments. Would you not differenciate between a US citizen by birth and an Indian who has become a US citizen by migration? After all, we are talking of a person of Indian origin who at least has his roots in India.
Do the achievments of Sunita Williams or Kalpana Chawla not make India proud?
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by bunty on Apr 18, 2007 03:48 PM Permalink
Sunita Williams or Kalpana Chawla why they run to US why not in indian? they have married with white man for getting good future and by the way Sunita Williams is not indian or hindu her father and husband is white man
RE:Loganathan
by bunty on Apr 18, 2007 03:47 PM Permalink
Sunita Williams or Kalpana Chawla why they run to US why not in indian? they have married with white man for getting good future and by the way Sunita Williams is not indian or hindu her father and husband is white man
RE:Loganathan
by Kumar Venkat on Apr 18, 2007 03:27 PM Permalink
I have respect for Sunita Williams, Kalpana Chawla, Subrahamnyam Chandrasekhar etc who have real achievements to their names. What was the major achievement of Loganathan ?
RE:Loganathan
by bharat on Apr 18, 2007 03:30 PM Permalink
Venkat, do you mean that we should not mourn the death of a person who does not have achievements to show? Does Prof Loganathan need to have achieved something for you to mourn his death?
RE:Loganathan
by bunty on Apr 18, 2007 03:52 PM Permalink
Sunita Williams or Kalpana Chawla why they run to US why not in indian? they have married with white man for getting good future and by the way Sunita Williams is not indian or hindu her father and husband is white man
RE:[object]
by Gopi nath on Apr 18, 2007 03:35 PM Permalink
We must realise something important here...whether NRI's remember motherland or not, NATION does not let any NRI feel alone..that too when Indian abroad is in trouble...SO..whether NRI's serve motherland or not, INDIA will always tell the world that she cares a lot for her children.....and no NRI will be left orphan abroad.....Can you please understand the spirit in this...thanx a ton !!! Jai Hind
RE:Loganathan
by Surojit Chatterjee on Apr 18, 2007 03:21 PM Permalink
You have gone out of your mind Girish. We are discussing untimely death not politics and personal frustration of not being able to make it big.You dont know the struggle you have to surmount to get a job in India with only merit as the criterion.I am also outside India and getting rejection for all efforts to come back. We are not NRIs just because there is more money outside. An entry level management grad is getting 50K-100K per month in India which is perhaps more than anywhere outside (compared to the living cost).Understand this.
RE:Loganathan
by kishore on Apr 18, 2007 03:46 PM Permalink
Plz don't go too emotional , They have left India on professional reasons . Hence they are resident americans on their choice . I have nothing against then ,but there is nothing to be proud about them as they are now offically Americans and not Indians . So please do not blow the crap of love of motherland , Indian sentiments etc ...
RE:Loganathan
by kamal raj on Apr 18, 2007 04:04 PM Permalink
shut your mouth and get last idiot girish f****r rao..this is a time to mourn for a human.. ur not at all a human... bringing politics inside the homage page..
This crazy gun culture of America is responsible for this killing. How many more of such massacres will be needed for the American administration to wake up and change their weapon laws?
America does not seem to have enough police to provide security to the people living within the country - Its evident time and again.
And God!! look at them! They are trying to police the world.
May God grant Peace to the souls of the departed and some wisdom to the Americans.
Yes if it was a Muslim involved, the foolish Americans would have looked at the whole incident as an act of terror and who knows which country would have been the next target.
should we laugh or cry? But first my heart cries for all those families who have suffered this loss.
RE:America Sucks !!!
by Paramesh Waran on Apr 18, 2007 03:20 PM Permalink
You are doing an injustice to morons here. Even they are geniuses compared to these a*h**es whose entire existence is premised on we are the best and whatever we do we will be able to make the rest of the world including foolish Indians, vow that this cannot be bettered!! Consider that the student accused of this mass murder is sought to be identified as a Korean whereas he has spent practically his whole life in USA and is as much an American as was Loganathan. So, why don't they realise that their culture??? is faulty??? Right, because they are intellectually speaking lower than Morons.
Its quite a tragedy. But the worse part is, ppl commentin things like hez an NRI..so the hype is given. Wat crap is all this? Ya ppl die everyday somewher...dat does not mean discount this person's life coz hez an NRI. A life taken is a life taken...
While Australia has started tightening the screws on ownership of arms by the citizens, the US lacks the will to do so, for the simple reason that sale of arms and ammunition in the US is big business and the industry detests any sort of control on it...even the US Administration dare not even attempt to regulate this business, for they are known to go to any lengths to retain their stranglehold on the country - and that includes even assassinating the President of the US...case in point, the murder of President John F Kennedy which is widely believed to have been committed at the behest of this industry. So, the result is, rampant proliferation of arms, such that even schoolchildren flaunt it and use it without fear, and all the US admininstration can do is talk, talk and talk sympathy, albeit hypocritically. Till then, we can only go on counting the dead bodies! Viva US Administration!
But my heart goes out to the bright Indian souls that were prematurely extinguished in this mindless tirade. One can only pray for their souls to rest in eternal peace.
RE:....But the arms industry in the US is too big and too powerful...
by kathir vel S on Apr 18, 2007 02:51 PM Permalink
Yes I'm from Australia. Here the government is screwing the guns license holders. In austrlia's population there are 15% of people have guns. These US Psychos always like this... They are not going to change... Forget it
loganathan's last wish to be burried in america itself shows how he was more towards US than to his mother land and parents, it feels more sad when his parents doesn't have atleast passport to go there.
RE:loganathan's last wish saddens a patriotic!!!
by kathir vel S on Apr 18, 2007 02:45 PM Permalink
He is not like that. He loved his profession. He dedicated his life 20 years with that university. He loved teaching... So that after he died he wishes to buried in the university itself... not in America. A british person lived in Vaalparai (Tamil nadu) 20 years ago. Last month he died in londan and his final wishes is to do the cremation in Vaalparai (TN). His relatives done. Its not only wishes..
Please don't tell these things after 1 person died.
RE:loganathan's last wish saddens a patriotic!!!
by gopalakrishnan dhandapani on Apr 18, 2007 02:51 PM Permalink
Yes. U r correct. It's ofcourse proud to us that a tamilian, Indian achieved a best faculty to teach the Americans. But at the same time, without being patriotic to his Motherland, without having the wish to return to his native state whether to serve or not, and if he had wished to remain in America, that shows he has not respected his country, his parents, his teachers (who taught him here till his post-graduation). One should never forget his umbilical root. That way, instead of bringing his body back to India, it is better to farewell him thereitself as he need not return to his forgotton Motherland...!!!
RE:loganathan's last wish saddens a patriotic!!!
by student student on Apr 18, 2007 03:13 PM Permalink
And you hippocrites also say that Sonia Gandhi still has links with Italy!
RE:loganathan's last wish saddens a patriotic!!!
by mahesh jindal on Apr 18, 2007 07:50 PM Permalink
That bit*h still has links !!! So what???I feel you are too drunk to write anything sensible
RE:loganathan's last wish saddens a patriotic!!!
by satya s on Apr 18, 2007 03:01 PM Permalink
you people are so indecent ,inconsiderate and mannerless.....its his personal wish you morons and don't intrude into space where you don't belong! also speaking ill of the dead is so isnensitive
your rules and preconceived notions apply to yourself alone in life! don't ever try to fit others into your idiotic notions!
RE:loganathan's last wish saddens a patriotic!!!
by vijay on Apr 18, 2007 02:47 PM Permalink
Thts wht i am also saying, He seems purely like an American and he forgets the name INDIA. Ok well good prof, good man, not a good Indian. We can cry for him, but Indian govt no need to spend for him!
RE:loganathan's last wish saddens a patriotic!!!
by Shanker Shetty on Apr 18, 2007 03:15 PM Permalink
This is India. Where everything is done in line with political aspirations. Govt. will get some more votes in the next elections... by showing some sympathy.. and it works in India.
Ya i agree its a sad news. But i saw in TV that he is settled in US with his family for around 30 years.
He is a IITan, i wonder y he didnt return to India after few years. Basically he gained lot from India but he didnt give anything to India.
His parents and brother in are TN are also looks poor. Y such a US prof parents are so poor. So he didnt take care abt his family too.
TN govt urge to give them passport with in a hour. Assume a man well settled in US for 30 years never bring his family members even for a single trip b4.
TN govt takes the fare of Air ticket of their family members, I think its much for us.
It seems we encourage people who forget abt our country abt his family and totally selfish.
RE:Too much for him !!!!
by satarupa sen on Apr 18, 2007 02:43 PM Permalink
Vijay, please realize that this is not the time to make such comments. Your views may be valid but the time is not right to air them.
RE:Too much for him !!!!
by Indee Nemani on Apr 18, 2007 03:25 PM Permalink
I am shocked to know the facts - no passports to parents, tickets being sponsored by Indian Tax payer. i wish they are romours. whom the govt. is trying to appease. The insurance of the diseased would take care of the first family and parents (if included in the cover by the victim). its a sad incident and should not have occured.
RE:Too much for him !!!!
by Anurag Vats on Apr 18, 2007 02:30 PM Permalink
No one should be judging other peoples relationship in their family and should be commenting about it. Especially when you get to know the person for the first time after his death and through internet and TV. Keep it yourself and look after your family first.
RE:Too much for him !!!!
by vijay on Apr 18, 2007 02:43 PM Permalink
Hi Anurag,
i am also an NRI, but i am just in singapore for the past 3 years and planned return back to India within another 5 years or 7 seven years.
I am also from TN, I am not a IITan and I am not in so good position like Mr. Loganathan. So as a NRI I know well what we own to our country.
You r telling i dont know abt his family, ok I agree. Then wht can be the reason for a IIT an with more than 30 years exp not to return India or doing anything to India.
I am not saying he is bad, I am just saying India no need to spend any single rupee for him!
RE:Too much for him !!!!
by Bharat on Apr 18, 2007 02:57 PM Permalink
This is what happens in a normal discussion board. People goes far away from the topic. Wy dont you guys get each other's phone number and start discussing about your problems.
Loganathan may not be a good son, but think about his parents? I feel if TN govt does not sponsor for their tickets and expenses then it's our duty to let them allow to pay the final homage to their beloved son.
RE:Too much for him !!!!
by student student on Apr 18, 2007 03:19 PM Permalink
Because the parents are Indian Citizens and they are travelling. They are going to attend a funeral of a dead son... a Indian Citizen's son. Atleast now you are happy!
RE:RE:Too much for him !!!!
by rakesh fgsth on Apr 18, 2007 03:04 PM Permalink
Hai Vijay and Anurag,
I have seen you both comments are fine .
vijay ; Vijay said was right because no person staying for 30 years do not leave their parents back in india even without showing the world's richest country . As a Indian , first dream of every Indian is to show their parents the world , becuase they believe that parents are god and first priorty goes to them . I do wonder this way of behaviour from such a great professor , even thought their parents are so bad or etc , one cannot give up their parents back in small indian village . India might be country of corruption, caste, or may be he would have be cheated by indian life in india etc . but Only country in the world where love for parents , family exists in the whole univers is India .
Anurag: Yes , I do agree also this is not a time for such discussion , but one can feel very painful to see the parents in such a condition . it would be nice if the media try to identify and make us know what was the reason for this . That would stop everyone from wondering .
Even I stay in Paris for 5 years each year I visit my parents and secondly believe that one day will show them paris and I will return also back to serve my country which is suffereing from more than any country from lack of governance.
Finally , I pray that Mr. loganathan souls rest in Peace . One thing to say even he less patriotic . All Indian prayers will be with him . because we Indians have big heart for everyone. Jai Hind Sorry for the family of Loganthan that such tradegy happened . My heart felt sorrow for you all. May all other souls rest in peace except
RE:Too much for him !!!!
by Thambidurai Karthik on Apr 19, 2007 01:22 AM Permalink
Being a professor in civil engineering he would have provided opportunities for many Grad students from India, which would have indirectly contributed to the motherland which is more than your direct contribution.
You really don%u2019t know the efforts taken by NRIs to contribute to their motherland. Every Indian working in US makes an effort to bring business to India. Even though I live abroad I make every effort to provide business links / opportunity to my friends living in India. In spite of all these efforts, NRIs are treated like traitors.
My deepest condolences to Prof. Loganathan's family and I ask people like you to refrain from making such comments without knowing the facts.
RE:RE:Too much for him !!!!
by BlurBlur on Apr 18, 2007 03:06 PM Permalink
Please understand that the government is paying for Loganathan's family to pay their last respects and not to Loganathan himself.
Also, what kind of a heartless being must you be to think that his parents do not deserve to see him one last time just because they cannot afford a flight ticket.
As for you planning to return to India, please reserve your comments after you return to India.
To your question of why an IITan did not return to India after 30 years, could Kalpana Chawla have gone to space if she lived in India? Im not saying this as an insult to India...but if you have a dream and wish to pusue that dream, what is wrong in it? Afterall you only have one lifetime to achieve it!
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by Indee Nemani on Apr 18, 2007 03:37 PM Permalink
Boss over 20% of indians have their loved ones abroad. It does mean that govt. should act like this. This sounds an extreme case where may be the prof. First family(in US) is not interested in their visit. it ought to be a family affair, but in a situation like this entire India is a single family. Lets give them privacy to grieve. their have been episodes when exgratia post humus has divided families. one surya from hyd slain by taliban. his second wife episode surfaced, the firm awarded the known first wife all the claims. some news channels cashed the truth. but life goes on.
RE:Too much for him !!!!
by bismi patrick on Apr 18, 2007 02:38 PM Permalink
Anurag, an excellent reply. Glad to know people like U are still there on earth,
RE:Too much for him !!!!
by sanjay verma on Apr 18, 2007 02:38 PM Permalink
yes Anurag, you have said it very brilliantly. even at the time of an event like someone's death, people just take out their scissors and knives and start dissecting other people's life. People even don't give a pause here also . They fail to undestand, if death comes to them also, there would be always be some fingers pointing at them,reminding them what they themselves did not do right in their life. its very easy to call someone else selfish than to accept one's own shortcomings in life.
RE:Too much for him !!!!
by kathir vel S on Apr 18, 2007 02:55 PM Permalink
I'm also in abroad. I have invited my parents several times to AUS. But they never come here.. What can i do?? So it may like happened in his life also...
Anyway he died. No need discuss his family matters. Forget man..
RE:Too much for him !!!!
by kba k on Apr 18, 2007 03:05 PM Permalink
Vijay is not sure when he will return? Now itself he is wavering as 5~7 years! Let us see if he wholeheartedly(!) returns after 7 years atleast! But he comments about another deceased guy about whom he many not have a faint idea of!
RE:Too much for him !!!!
by Guru Prasath on Apr 18, 2007 03:17 PM Permalink
People replying to this comment should read today's Times of India. Every time Mr.Loganathan comes to India he urged his parents to move to US instead living in India all alone, but his parents were quiet happy living in a remote village in TN. They even felt, that there is no point in moving to US at this age and also after living so many years in India. That's why his parents never bothered to take passports.
Regarding his burial issue, I find it shows his affection towards his profession and his college rather to the country. Let him leave(rest) alone. Don't make unnecessary issue over this.
