but whatis the point of discussing this point in rediff.We all know that rediff is read by the most peace loving people on earth. namely Indians.when a movie like "Bowling For coulmbine" released by Oscar winning director michale moore narrated inplane simple english to american people in 2003 (4 years back)can't persuade US Public to do something for gun control after the most famous shootout of eric price and dylan klebold at Columbine High school to stop this thing .how come our discussion at an Indian Website will be usfeul to a Public who nwnats to see Blood and celebrates Moron like Ted Bundy and Jeffrey DAHMER .sIR if IAM WRONG CORRECT ME??//
When it was well known that is writing and poetry was not of readable variety and that he was a disturbed person, how was he allowed to continue in the university without any psychatric treatment. This clearly shows the teacher just take a lesson and go away. There is no personal touch on the students. If it was there definately it would have been noted and some positive action would have been taken to avoid this kind of mishap.
RE:How he continued in the University
by Shantanu Bapat on Apr 19, 2007 04:35 AM Permalink
What exactly do you mean by his material was not of readable variety or disturbing? There is no objective way of defining those terms. Hence, nothing can be done. If I find something disturbing in someone, should that mean that the person should be sent to a mental facutly? Obviously not. Hope you got the point.
RE:How he continued in the University
by AnswersToQuestions on Apr 18, 2007 11:56 PM Permalink
A teacher volunteered to teach him one on one. I dont think oen can give a more "Personal Touch" than that.
I wonder what went on in this kid's mind? Loners, are very sad people, and just think of the confusion , turmoil & fright that his family are going to be living with hounding and isolation.. not to mention media & authorities!
I am sorry for the Children & Teachers who died for no cause at all.... May their Souls rest in Peace, and may this be a lesson to Americans that the days of gun-toting wild west cowboys are OVER,so there's no need for firearms and they should not be so easily available. They can still carry guns provided they are licensed & atab is kept on those who buy them
My basic question is how this boy was able to buy the guns, new cartridges from some seller without questions asked. The Root cause is that such a visibly depressed youth can buy the firearms & getaway! This as just aiting to happen.
Ban all purchases of firearms unless there is a strong justification & there will be no such virginia fallouts.
RE:Why ignore the gun seller?
by SteeveB on Apr 19, 2007 12:36 AM Permalink
It's not exactly gun, but bullets. He must have fired some 90-100 rounds. You can buy gun for your protection, but you don't need 100 bullets. On top of that, 23 years old-English major who has no professional use of fire arms buys the arms with so many bullets and nobody even questions him. It is really outrageous.
RE:RE:RE:Why ignore the gun seller?
by Ghost Rider on Apr 19, 2007 02:12 AM Permalink
Oye..Defenders of mera bharat Mahan..... Haven't you heard of kidnappings and killings in Indian colleges during college elections? Where do they get the guns / knives from? Do you blame the gun / knife seller? He who presses the trigger is the criminal not the seller! Common sense.
Do you remember the Madrid bombings in 2004? The terrorists had used mobile phones to detonate, and the mobile phones were bought in anIndian shop in Spain. Who is the criminal? One who sold the mobile phone or one who used it to explode the bomb?
RE:Why ignore the gun seller?
by Richard Branson on Apr 18, 2007 07:47 PM Permalink
america is free country. citizens are not questioned unnecessarily. your mentality reeks on indians who have been slaves for 1000 years and have had no privileges, even that of a gun licence
RE:Why ignore the gun seller?
by nara simha on Apr 18, 2007 07:55 PM Permalink
i guess sanity prevails when there is freedom to do good things only& not evil. On ur slavish comment,I do notthink Indians chose to be slaves but other nations wnt on to be barbarians , pirates & marauders & waht not!
RE:Why ignore the gun seller?
by Bhaskar Srinivasan on Apr 18, 2007 08:05 PM Permalink
Yeah Yeah, so u mean to say that freedom is about having guns? I think thats insecurity - definitely not a symptom of 'freedom'. Remember Richard - freedom is about living and leting live, not killing and dying as you Americans/Pro Americans might think.
RE:Why ignore the gun seller?
by Prem Kumar on Apr 18, 2007 08:17 PM Permalink
Folks, Do you really think so-called "Richard Branson", an american (wannabe?) will be reading & posting in Rediff.com? Wudn he be reading NY times or Wash post instead of Rediff?
There are few sadists around here, who just love to create ruckus and enjoi the following commotion and fight among ourselves.
Anyone speciafically posting anti-Indian comments are aliens who loves to see us fight. Please don give in. Whenevr you see these insane idiots post, it is best ignored or report abuse but don't take it to heart and start a fight!
RE:Why ignore the gun seller?
by AnswersToQuestions on Apr 18, 2007 11:53 PM Permalink
What a laugh!! Please get your facts right. You think india didn't invade anybody.? Yea, probably beacuse it was busy invading it's own neighbours within India, and chaining it's owm people..!!
RE:Why ignore the gun seller?
by gokris on Apr 18, 2007 09:27 PM Permalink
Nara, I would not accept your comment. While purchasing the weapons, he has given 3 types of Photo IDs. Also the seller has ran a security check about him in the Federal Web based system that tracks guys with prior convictions. So there is no error on the seller. I don't want to justify what is right or wrong. But just giving u the facts.
RE:Why ignore the gun seller?
by Bharat Naruka on Apr 18, 2007 11:29 PM Permalink
Dear Richard Branson,
This is the craziest argument I have ever heared. Ask parents and relative of victims, whether they would want this kind of freedom or an indian attitude (slavary, as you ridiculously prefer to call it). Owing to this stupid idea of freedom, this kind of mishapes have happned in the US in past and will keep happening unless something is done in this direction.
Look at their parents. How much pain this lunatic caused to his parents. Inspite of their hardships in their family, they raised their kids and sent them to good schools. But this kid did too much damage to the family, society.
I did live in the US for more than 5 years and traveled to several cities in the US.
Do you agree that the Gun Crime is a very big problem in the US????
What stops the US government to show any interest to crub the increase of gun Crime?
What steps have been taken to nudge the rising gun crime all over the US?????
Nothing...the US government is busy elsewhere than focusing the social problems of the US...I would say this has been the case foe the past 20 years!!!
When anyone can buy a semi-automatic, loaded with bullets for $40, what would you expect to happen?
Just because, 32 people had been shot dead, this whole shooting incident had become well-known. Otherwise, I am sure it would have made news even in the local newspapers. Single shootings are taking place every 6 minutes in the US. Do you know that?????
So, common man can only bash the US government to take responsible for its open failure and not interested to crub the rising gun crime...
Many of those who critisise US don't mean to be Anti-Americans...be very clear about it....I do bash very badly about Indian government. But, at the same time I love India and very proud to be Indian....period...
Your American society is being misled by the successive ruling US governments.....Instead of preaching against WAR and teaching the value of peace and life, your government is forcing the Americans to accept the WAR.....and buy loads of lies for free!!!
So, this creates pressure and affects the society as whole......You may have to sit and read socio-political relations to understand it better....
The US mainline media is very cleverly and systematically misinforms the American public on all key political and social issues. The American public believes it as real!!! The corrupt media regime has well established links with all political 'big heads' of US politics. It is actually helping to stage a planned 'propaganda' directly focussed to 'brainwash' the American public with series of myths and illusion of lies as great as any ruthless 'dictatorship' could possibly do. The US mainline media never criticises the government or it's policies or president's actions and accountability. By taking democracy and peace for granted, president Bush had thoroughly done a great deal of damage to the United States than all the other previous US presidents put together. Job well done!!!
So, when something like this shooting happens, or Hurricane Katrina, people would naturally bash the US government..
I do and many do know that there are many peace loving gentle souls are there in the US like any where else...
Yes....it is about humanity as you said...But, does the US government know the value of it?
