Guys ...its time now and India needs a revolution. Its not any miracle that can help our country. Lets join hands and do something for our country or else these politicians will make our India so weak and will sell us and our country to the foreign power.As a first step lets make a resolution that each of us vote next time to throw out these incompetent politicians and select the true leaders. Who knows there is a leader among you who can instill fire in all Indians sleeping souls.
Any Ideas to protect our country against the predators are welcomed !!
RE:Is India being ruled by Goons and Dacoits - Time to retrospect and take action ....Wake Up !!
by Polisetty Ravishankar on Apr 08, 2007 05:22 PM Permalink
Dear Bhagath Singh!
Why r u talking about voting someone in the next elections? Lets start a political party. Come on. I am getting ready. Mail me and we can discuss!
RE:Is India being ruled by Goons and Dacoits - Time to retrospect and take action ....Wake Up !!
by Sriram Vangal on Apr 08, 2007 05:25 PM Permalink
Me too
RE:Is India being ruled by Goons and Dacoits - Time to retrospect and take action ....Wake Up !!
by Muniyandy Elangovan on Apr 08, 2007 05:02 PM Permalink
Sorry. Uneducated people can sell but we can take it back. When educated people are there, nothying will come out and they sell every thing without any sound. Atleast now we come to knwo all. Please read about Mashelkar (CSIR) article. he made changes in his report for foreign company. What shall we do.
RE:RE:Is India being ruled by Goons and Dacoits - Time to retrospect and take action ....Wake Up !!
by pramod nair on Apr 08, 2007 05:22 PM Permalink
Mashelkar is one of the best scientists CSIR has.Mashelkar allowed IPR regime in Pharma to encourageIndian companies to invest in research and devp and thus come up with blockbuster drugs like their peers.(Indian omapnies are allowed to manufacture licensed drugs with a diff manufacturing process.).If Indian phrama companies starts investing more in R&D it would create more job opportunities and would help India to create a footprint in the biotech and blockbuster drugs market.What Mashelkar did was abosolutely right though it was a bit ahead of its time.
Judges need to be more sensitive to political and social demands. They seem to be passing judgements as if social issues can be decided by applying some kind of mathematical formulae.
Judges do have shortcomings as any other human beings. They are not error-proof.
RE:Judiciary Does Not U'stand People!
by myfaq on Apr 08, 2007 05:04 PM Permalink
Ismail your elected representative has not solved any social issues either. The Judiciary is not dumb to pass judgements based on mathematical formulas. They are the only sane people we general public can depend on. Of course the elected representatives does a lot of mathematics before passing a bill to see where they get the maximum benefits.
RE:Judiciary Does Not U'stand People!
by on Apr 08, 2007 05:38 PM Permalink
Judges do not need to understand the political & social demands, otherwise it will become another political wing. The judges should scrutinize each issue without bias as a third party. Fortunately, our judiciary system is right on this path. There is no need to advise judiciary by political leaders like Manmohan Singh. For the sake of the country, please keep judiciary out of the blame game.
RE:How dare you PM
by Vinay Goswami on Apr 08, 2007 05:20 PM Permalink
Rightly said, Dr. Manmohan Singh is the living examle of lust for chair and power. The point here is not about eudcated or uneducated? It is all about greed for POWER and CHAIR. Therefore CHARACTER selling is the first casuality in modern day Indian democracy. For that matter, MoanMohan Singh is no exception. All politicians are lacking character equally. None of them has guts to stand for right cause. Be it BJP, Janta Dal, Congress or Left Parties, all them are equally corrupt.
RE:How dare you PM
by myfaq on Apr 08, 2007 05:44 PM Permalink
I am surprised we have so many traitors like quitcricket and Deshmukh roaming about freely like free birds.
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by quitcricket on Apr 08, 2007 06:05 PM Permalink
WOW MY FAQ KNOWS ENGLISH!!!!!!!!!! HIS FATHER TOLD ME YESTERDAY TO FORGIVE HIM FOR HIS IDIOTIC DEEDS, HE IS TRASHED BY EVERYONE IN LIFE AND A COMPLE LOOSER
RE:How dare you PM
by Ajithkumar Kundapur on Apr 08, 2007 05:19 PM Permalink
UP speaker allowed to form MULAYAM GOvt illigaly.The case put SC. SC upheld that speaker decision was wrong%u2026.. but after 4year 11 months of the assembly is completed. What you say about it??????. Judiciary is right in dragging the case to so long. It is a simple **** Judiciary is corrupt and helping their own point of interest.
RE:How dare you PM
by rama kumar on Apr 08, 2007 05:08 PM Permalink
he is not elected PM but selected pm,, and then what can he do to the country when political peopl want votes on the cast system and religion... and then when the judicial which took some steps which are legal then why do not gov follow it,,if gov itself does not follow what people will follow
RE:How dare you PM
by myfaq on Apr 08, 2007 05:11 PM Permalink
You are right... He is an (S)elected PM. This fellow is fit for nothing. He is the biggest traitor. May be the PM is pro-khalistan..He is trying to destroy the country...
RE:How dare you PM
by myfaq on Apr 08, 2007 05:28 PM Permalink
Deshmukh, my father is neither a puppet in the foreign hands nor he is greedy to become a PM. So, if Mr.Manmohan happened to be my father, YES I will do everthing to protect my country from being destroyed even if it happens to sacrifice my father.
It is easy to corrupt the judiciary.Elected leaders are afterall mirror image of the people.if the leader is corrupt then for sure the people who elected him also belong to the same level!!!India needs a GOOD DICTATOR an Saddam hussain could have been deputed ALAS!! he is no more
RE:Corruption every where
by abhinav goel on Apr 08, 2007 05:15 PM Permalink
see what Saddam has doe to Iraq. See what is happening in Pakistan by Musharaff. Do u need more examples of dictatorship gone worng? History is full of them.
Eversince there is indulgence of Neta's in Judiciary, the justice is eluded totally. Somehow in every state Judiciary dances to the tune of ruling party & not to judicial system. Now it pains to these Neta's when prominent people started raising voice against it. Any new C.M comes in a state, starts with digging the previous CM before taking any remedial steps for lapses or shortfalls for common man committed. Noe CM punises a crimnal & the other releases him & offers to contest on his party ticket. Where is Independent judiciary?
Evedent from cases of high profile people that non of the case involving them is complete. Courts drag the cases for years to let the wittness die or become hostile to close the case in absence of evidence. This is Judiciary as on today H.S.Marwah
The killer of Indian democracy by Indira Congrece by inroducing Emergency in 1977 & its Prime Minister has no moral right to say about Judiciary, Rajib Gandhi insult the Verdict of SC on Sahabanu case . This congress Govt & thair friend hypocrit communist are enjoying the power and intheir happy journy towards blood sucking governence judiciary has become road breaker thats why they become angry
Mr. Prime Minister, I don't think you have done anything to ameliorate the situation of masses trapped between corrupt politicians and pathetic bureaucrats. And now, you want that even the judiciary, which is the only resort left to the citizens of this country, should keep its hands off so that the country decends into anarchy and oppression of common man.
I am very sorry and utterly shocked to note that a person of ur stature (ONE OF THE VEY FEW POLTICIANS WHOM I REALLY RESPECT IN THE INDIAN POLITICS) has now asked the judiciary be within its limits.
Sir, did you read the constitution? R u aware of the IPC? Did u ever know that the Judiciary is independent of Legislature in Indian Democracy? Or r u trying to be a dictator? If the judiciary does not keep a check on the legislature then who else will do that?
If you want to even shut the mouth of Indian judiciary (btw., the eyes are already shut) then we will have no other choice other than to resolve irrevocably not to return back to India. After long, we have a sensible thing coming from the Indian judiciary and we have the PM stopping all the good that can happen to India. SHUN u guys!
Sir! It might well be the case that because of Your association with other illiterate politicians in the parliament your Intellect has started fading away. Please save yourself and India from these Illiterate MPs and Ministers.
Reading the 23 messages on this board, gave the impression that none of those who have written has ever been a litigant even in a lower court, forget the Supreme Court.
Try being a litigant at least once, without money, influence, power...and then write a message. And then, try to sincerely congratulate the chief Justice. You may not be able to.
RE:Say it once agin
by HariKrishna Alur on Apr 08, 2007 05:53 PM Permalink
Try getting your work done with the politicians without all that you have referred and try to confront one politician and tell me u r enthralling experience.
By the way I am not so enamoured by the judiciary either
RE:Say it once agin
by bharat Maheshwari on Apr 08, 2007 04:46 PM Permalink
don't forget, indian Govt is the biggest litigant.
and who is responsible or vaccant seat in various high court, distt court and SC. IT is GOvt of india or the polito class, who have reason to make sure then citizen shoudl shy away to use this option
RE:RE:Say it once agin
by bharat Maheshwari on Apr 08, 2007 04:52 PM Permalink
true, but that is the right given to litigent by idnian law, judiciary has no control.
But Section 35- B of the CPC alos allows the other side to be given "costs for causing delay", to " reimburse the other party in respect of the expenses incurred by him attending the court...."
HAs any one ever got this when a matter has been listed and adjourned for no real reason?
This would of course include the money that the other person had to pay the lawyer who appeared for him.
Has any lawyer ever asked for this for his client? Obviously No , for more than one obvious reasons.
RE:Say it once agin
by Arvind on Apr 08, 2007 05:04 PM Permalink
my dear..mayb we r not litigant...but i can tell tht ur stupid and fool...u went thru 23 messages to writa a msg...lol.. wht a waste of time...u proved urself
RE:Say it once agin
by Sriram Vangal on Apr 08, 2007 04:45 PM Permalink
She is perhaps a litigant. She dosn't seem to know lawyers are responsible for the pile up. If only the cut down on the adjournments by 50% there wont be any back log
RE:Say it once agin
by sheila das on Apr 09, 2007 05:27 AM Permalink
1) i am not a lawyer.
i was dragged into litigation by a lawyer from the lower court , through the High Court, to the Supreme Court.
MArch 5th 2007- the matter has celebrated its 7th glorious anniversary in Court.
It s been in the Supreme Court since May 2002 August. It has been heard by at least 13 judges in the Supreme Court.
The matter is still pending in the Supreme Court after a Review Petition on the final Judgment.
The media reported the Judgement as: "..........Breaking precedent, the Supreme Court passes a ......ruling in favour of the ......".
When it is a lawyer on the other side precedence is/ has to be broken! ! ! ( Not even a Supreme Court lawyer-just a lower court lawyer.)
The review Petition was dismissed but, with the condition that the Apex court could be approached if the orders were violated.
The orders were violated , naturally. What else do one expect of the most influential /powerful /the most privileged for whom the law has been changed/ precedence has been broken ? ? ?
The petition filed showing violation of orders was also dismissed .One of the Judges said in court, "you have to file a petition for contempt." The contempt was so obvious.
Not that i am going to file a contempt. It s no use when Article 142 seems to have been amended/ cancelled for the sake of a lawyer litigant.
It is not that i am disillusioned. It is just that i am aware that it is of no use.
During the hearing of the Appeal , when "compensatory costs in respect of false or frivolous claims or defences " (Section 35-A of the CPC) , had been sought, one of the Judges had said :,"it cannot be illegal."
When it is by a lawyer that more than 100 such petitions/defences have been filed, what is "legal" will automatically be re-defined.
No one would believe this story , except that:
1. the Final Judgement which is on the Supreme Court Web Site has clearly disregrded 10 of the 15 Supreme Court/ MAdras High Court/ Bombay High Court /Kerala High Court/ Orissa High Court Decisions (Judgements) and 2 Foreign Judgements cited.
2. The list of Indian books ( Judgements) cited are also on the SC Web Site. And it was annexed along with the Review petition and the subsequent petition asking for relief on violation of orders.
3. Of the 5 Decisions (Judgements) referred to in the Judgement 2 were mis -quoted and 3 dismissed as : %u201Cthe facts of that case are different%u201D. Obviously, if all the 17 Decisions cited were to be referred to, the final Judgement in the matter could not be what has been delivered by the Apex Court.
4. About 6 orders of the SC have been taken off the internet. But , some of them have been quoted in the final Judgement, tell-taling that they exited once upon a time.
When things had been going too bad , ( unreasonable adjournments, posting deleted from the list at the last moment, After hearing the matter for a whole week the bench refusing to complete hearing the matter, wrong information from the SC registry, and innumerable other obstacles) a registrar of the SC was approached for re-dressal of grievance, the reply given was :"The Supreme Court is the only honest institution in the country."
2) I had to read all the messages before writing anything, because I didn%u2019t want to write an irresponsible statement. Speaking about the Supreme Court of India is serious matter.
So going back to the original post, and only to say , without money, without influence, without the right contacts hoping to get justice is only wishful thinking. (Remember the Jessica Lal case? ? Rather to early in the day to be forgotten)
