For a highly educated man and that too a Prime Minister, to say such things is in very POOR taste.
If the executive/legislature were not overstepping the bounds of the law, the judiciary would not have had to step in to stop the rot.
After having included so many tainted ministers in his ministry, Dr. Sigh should be the last person to caution the judiciary. Day in and day out his governament is involved in some controversial act or the other.
Judiciary is the only remaining hope for this country to survive from the continuous destruction wrought by the self- serving politicians.
Hey PM Do think we have to accept what all the things you make and decide...U looks like an dectator..licking political things..U lost the repsect...U now looks like same as that of creatures...shame on u.. Law is nothing different for you..
lAW HAS ITS WAY NO ONE CAN STOP..MIND YOU SPEECH NEXT TIME..
(i) I am compelled to come to the conclusion from my own experiences that now-a-days judges won't study the cases properly and give verdicts which are questionable and if we make any comment, they use their lethal weapon i.e. face contempt of court. In my own case, when a decree was given by Tis Hazari Court, Delhi, A.P. High Court Justice N.H. Hanumanthappa has given a stay stopping its execution when it has no jurisdiction over a decree given by a lower court in Delhi (ii) In the same case, Delhi High Court has also given a decree and both stays remained at the same time making a mockery of judiciary. (iii) When a SLP(C)194/07 has been filed by me in Supreme Court of India simply to uphold the honour and dignity of judiciary the same has been dismissed in court No.6 on 25-01-07 without realizing the enormity of the crime committed by the offender. In case of Zahira Sheik of Best Bakery carnage of Vadodara, the Supreme Court has punished her for perjury with hefty penalty (now exempted) and one year imprisonment. Although this case is more serious as the Opp.party has filed sworn false affidavits in A.P. and Delhi High Courts, Supreme Court has left him scot-free eroding my faith and confidence in Supreme Court of India. (iv) Another trend I have seen is that the judges started insulting and snubbing even Sr. Citizens like me as if they are demi-Gods and supernatural people. I have no faith in Indian judiciary.
RE:Upper Caste Judges and Family run judiciary
by Arvind on Apr 08, 2007 06:05 PM Permalink
ok...judiciary might have failed in some or many cases...all those cases were at lower courts.. but nev has it failed at the state of Supreme court...however this time the supreme court is right and when it is right why dont u ppl support it??? u ppl r instead giving a twist and politicising the whole issue by saying tht the top judiciary are upper caste.. whatever the caste be of the judiciary top brass..they r right this time and i support them instead of digging out past failures, we all shd support the truth and nt the caste
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by CY BA on Apr 08, 2007 06:16 PM Permalink
caste is the truth my friend.. it seems that your castiest feelings are stoping you to support truth...
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by Arvind on Apr 08, 2007 06:29 PM Permalink
CYBA: maybe your conscience makes you feel guilty that u can never get a seat thru merit..and so ur nt supporting the truth..and instead u want the easy way out..the way which few people over streets use to earn money..inspite of being healthy and fit to work...lol
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by CY BA on Apr 08, 2007 06:37 PM Permalink
well personlly ... i feel amusing for you comments... well.. you dont even know my merit.. but i dont care...
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by Arvind on Apr 08, 2007 06:52 PM Permalink
if u knew ur merit then u wud havnt made such a comment here...and wud hav atleast stood for something tht is right..
i dnt need any blessing frm u...or my caste..no caste needs any blessings..if u really wanna say tht then wish god to bless the poor..they r the real needy..
RE:Upper Caste Judges and Family run judiciary
by Sriram Vangal on Apr 08, 2007 06:02 PM Permalink
Our CJ, Just. KGB is a dalit. Remember that. But of course he has reached the pinnacle only on merit and not on reservation
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by Arvind on Apr 08, 2007 06:10 PM Permalink
no use reporting me abuse....i will still come back and say the truth...i wont mind creating a different id..
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by CY BA on Apr 08, 2007 06:14 PM Permalink
caste is the truth my friend.. it seems that your castiest feelings are stoping you to support truth...
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by CY BA on Apr 08, 2007 06:11 PM Permalink
One Dalit can not change - upper-caste rus system...
the problem here is... 5% people who are mostly upper-caste & urban with industry run private media thinks that out politicians are nor capable... this shows upper-caste arrogance%u2026
There is some problem in politics%u2026 but same politician take decision on economy in favor of India Inc. is appreciated only you have problems when they want to address real issue.. like OBC reservation%u2026
Such remarks are not expected from the learned man like our PM. We all thought that our PM is different than all other corrupt & narrow minded politicians.
Does it mean that if the constitution governed by a bunch of brutes passes a law stating that Murdering some one is leagal... This law should honour by the judicial system...
RE:Does it mean that if the constitution passes a law stating that Murdering some one is leagal... The law should honour it.
by Idiot guy on Apr 08, 2007 06:01 PM Permalink
The answers is YES.
Government appoints judges and not vice versa.
Otherwise they can resign and open a shoe polish shop.
In a democracy, we pay the price of being led by people who have been elected by people whose understanding of what is good of the country maybe limited. In smaller countries like Pakistan - such issues get highlighted faster and the military regime is quick to overthrow thugs like Nawaz Sharif or Bhutto or for that matter in Turkey which has a democracy guided by army so that only secular parties are in power. In India what we are facing is a situation which has no remedy - quick periods of growth and liberalisation results in educated sector take advantage of the same and become prosperous. Such development creates jealousies and fissures which get exploited by parties which exploit the insecurities of the poor. Now take the example of the reason for judiciary - legislature fight. The other day I was telling a few as to how IIMs have become a victime of its own success. Mass leaders think it is the replacement of the IAS as far as upward mobility is concerned. However they have failed to spot the trend that IIMs themselves are getting irrelevant. The brightest and the best would typically take up high paying jobs after engineering and will round it up with a quickfire MBA in ISB or XLRI or SP Jain or Symbiosis. ( And for that matter - best engineers from IITs/BITS have a higher starting salary than IIM Grads ) These private/minority institutes will/already attract the best faculty from IIMs and abroad because they do not have constraints on either faculty fee or course content. The IIM profs will feel the pressure of teaching students of poor communication skills as well as pressure to lower standards to which their tolerance will decrease over years. Further - IIMs are expanding to an extent dilution of student quality will be natural and expected resulting in lower returns post placement. And finally - with economy slowing down - the next three years will see a serious deglamourisation of IIM students. There is no substitute for getting the basics right. Reservations harm people who avail of it as it is a lifelong stigma to carry.
Who is this idiot to tell not to cross the limits to courts? When the governments are incapable of good governance then courts will come into picture. These idiot politicians are incapable that is why courts are giving such kind of rulings. I fully support supreme court rather than these sick governments and politicians. I never expected these kind of words from our PM. Its a shame on him and time to review how he is ruling the country.
RE:Shame on this guy
by Vivek Thakur on Apr 08, 2007 06:03 PM Permalink
Our PM should not forget that the member of Parliament, either from the Govt. or opposition, represent only a "fraction" of the citizens of India. Do they have rights to question judiciary ? All politicians should realize that that there are biases in our electoral procedure in Indian democracy. Thus the so-called representatives of people are not a TRUE representative.
Who are politicians ? The person who is chosen by the peoples in a constituency. He will always defend the interest of his constituency or the caste or the religion or whatever sub part he is representing.
Democracy is for the people = Peoples aspirations as reprsented by the MPs who will then formula laws to fulfills those aspirations.
And of course with such a diverse country it is nearly impossible to come to a consensus point or uniformity.
