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Moral Ground
by gurcharan bhathal on Apr 04, 2007 10:59 AM  Permalink  | Hide replies

Present So called Communist leaders are now black spot on ideology of Communism, not more than that.

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RE:Moral Ground
by Sahadevan KK on Apr 04, 2007 11:58 AM  Permalink
Those leaders and political parties are now in black spot / deep well, who sells our country for a few dollars.

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Nandigram
by Asoke Sengupta on Apr 04, 2007 10:46 AM  Permalink  | Hide replies

Hi - issue now transformed to CPIM, Muslim/Hindu. All these to divert attention from the actual issue i.e. whether we should creat more jobs for the unemployed or keep quite and try to exploit, all sections according our sweet will like tue politicians. Forget the need of today, don't see the future and keep all happy by not doing anything. Itis not GYYAN but the reality. Some have already brought Bengalees and non-bengalees also.
While you compare someone with another observe properly, do not utter what your dadas have said. Look at the situation and then comment. Here CM has the courage to shoulder the responsibility, other pass the buck on to somed others. What a pitiable condition and we the supporters should on that basis. One more do not put words in the mouth of somebody to convince others, specially those who have no knowledge about it.
Thanks.
Asoke


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RE:Nandigram
by Bhaskar Chattopadhyay on Apr 04, 2007 11:07 AM  Permalink

By the way, none of 55 Islamic countries have Communist Govt!

Only in India, Commies and Muslims work together.

CPI helped create Pakistan by supporting Jinnah.

However after Pak was created, Musllahs driven out all communist leaders.

There is no/very very small communist representation of communists in Bangladesh & Pakistan.

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RE:Nandigram
by Uttamkumar on Apr 04, 2007 11:33 AM  Permalink

Communists even fled from Bangladesh when they were fighting against Pakistan during their
freedom struggle on 1971. Those communists took shelter in West Bengal/ INDIA.

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RE:Nandigram
by Rationalist on Apr 04, 2007 11:02 AM  Permalink
Mr.Ashoke,
The issue is not transformed to Muslim/Hindhu. But it is in built. Islam & communism both being fascisms where as Hindhuism is just the opposite. So y u get offended u fascist.


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RE:[object]
by Rationalist on Apr 04, 2007 11:06 AM  Permalink
Just look how Abu Salem is hailed hero in his home town. Tommorow he will b an MP, may be through congress ticket.Facism @ its best.

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RE:[object]
by Shameer on Apr 04, 2007 11:12 AM  Permalink
Wht a jok....thnx for making me laugh..We have seen that in Gujrath...Ayodhya and else where.....such a nonsence...cant stop laughing..wht an Idiot...


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RE:Nandigram
by Shameer on Apr 04, 2007 11:11 AM  Permalink
Wht a jok....thnx for making me laugh..We have seen that in Gujrath...Ayodhya and else where.....such a nonsence...cant stop laughing..wht an Idiot...

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RE:Nandigram
by Bhaskar Chattopadhyay on Apr 04, 2007 10:55 AM  Permalink

Why CPIM unleshed its caders to stop media from going near to Nandigram?

If you guys think, CPIM will be rescued by COngress (because without CPIM;s help COng Govt will fall at Delhi), THEN YOU HAVE TO PAY A BIGGER PRICE BECAUSE OF ASSOCIATION WITH CONGRESS!

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RE:Nandigram
by Raj Aryan on Apr 04, 2007 01:25 PM  Permalink
Commies have been ruling(actually ruining) West Bengal for nearly 3 decades why they did not show the same courage to setup industries?

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Nandigram
by Asoke Sengupta on Apr 04, 2007 10:46 AM  Permalink  | Hide replies

Hi - issue now transformed to CPIM, Muslim/Hindu. All these to divert attention from the actual issue i.e. whether we should creat more jobs for the unemployed or keep quite and try to exploit, all sections according our sweet will like tue politicians. Forget the need of today, don't see the future and keep all happy by not doing anything. Itis not GYYAN but the reality. Some have already brought Bengalees and non-bengalees also.
While you compare someone with another observe properly, do not utter what your dadas have said. Look at the situation and then comment. Here CM has the courage to shoulder the responsibility, other pass the buck on to somed others. What a pitiable condition and we the supporters should on that basis. One more do not put words in the mouth of somebody to convince others, specially those who have no knowledge about it.
Thanks.
Asoke


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RE:Nandigram
by Bhaskar Chattopadhyay on Apr 04, 2007 10:51 AM  Permalink


CM is giving lip-service in the name of shoudering responsibility.

Why his Govt has announced 2 other probes, when CBI is already probing it?

Even Rudranshu Mukherjee, editor of the Telegraph and was a supporter of Buddha's industrialization, WAS FORCED TO SAY: BUDDHA HAS REMAIN A STALINIST. WE THOUGHT HE CHANGED, BUT ACTUALLY BUDDHA HASN'T CHANGED.

BUDDHA WAS A STALINIST, IS A STALINIST AND WILL REMAIN SO.

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RE:Nandigram
by Uttamkumar on Apr 04, 2007 11:01 AM  Permalink

Yes, Buddha is a true Stanist.

He wanted to drink the blood of farmers and now he is continuing so.

He forcefully merely said "sorry" in few meetings about the genocide. But he gets the
real of taste of the blood of farmers.

He is is big liar. He should not be trusted for single second.

He must be termed "BUDDHA-DANOB" which is much more appropriate for him.



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Nandigram
by Asoke Sengupta on Apr 04, 2007 10:46 AM  Permalink 

Hi - issue now transformed to CPIM, Muslim/Hindu. All these to divert attention from the actual issue i.e. whether we should creat more jobs for the unemployed or keep quite and try to exploit, all sections according our sweet will like tue politicians. Forget the need of today, don't see the future and keep all happy by not doing anything. Itis not GYYAN but the reality. Some have already brought Bengalees and non-bengalees also.
While you compare someone with another observe properly, do not utter what your dadas have said. Look at the situation and then comment. Here CM has the courage to shoulder the responsibility, other pass the buck on to somed others. What a pitiable condition and we the supporters should on that basis. One more do not put words in the mouth of somebody to convince others, specially those who have no knowledge about it.
Thanks.
Asoke


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You are all stupids to believe what is said in the article. The article is total bogus !
by hari siri on Apr 04, 2007 10:45 AM  Permalink  | Hide replies

What Bengalis do today is going to be done others tomorrow. This is fact from history.

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RE:You are all stupids to believe what is said in the article. The article is total bogus !
by Bhaskar Chattopadhyay on Apr 04, 2007 10:57 AM  Permalink

When Gokhale said that, CPIM was not in sight. Else, he would have changed it.

Bengal of those days were indeed something/ However CPIM stand quarely opposed to that.

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RE:You are all stupids to believe what is said in the article. The article is total bogus !
by paaji on Apr 04, 2007 01:24 PM  Permalink
begali babu eat fish and be marry you can,t do anything else.

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RE:You are all stupids to believe what is said in the article. The article is total bogus !
by Rationalist on Apr 04, 2007 11:10 AM  Permalink
This(communism) they have been doing from day before yesterday. But no others seem to have taken up.

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RE:RE:You are all stupids to believe what is said in the article. The article is total bogus !
by Gautam Sinha on Apr 04, 2007 01:52 PM  Permalink
Hari Siri, Bengal is now slipped down that "Shiri" (ladder in Bengali). Both Bengal and Maharashtra were the top states post independence post industrialization. After the advent of communists it is behind in every respect now.What Bengal does today was already done in 1920s in America during their recession. Read history again!!

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CPI(M) should be renamed as CPI(Muslims)
by Bhaskar Chattopadhyay on Apr 04, 2007 10:45 AM  Permalink  | Hide replies



After Nandigram, CPIM is very desperate to placate Muslims because without their vote CPIM cannot remain in Power in WB.

If CPIM looses WB, it will be history in India.

So, Buddha is meeting Jamat-E-Ulema Hind, an Islamist Deobondi group at Delhi.

A new MUslim University is coming up in West Bengal.

15% Budgetary allocation is to be made for Muslims.

Specialy Recruitment drive for Muslims.

500 Crores plus are distributed annually in the name of minority empowerment . However, all records are lost due to a fire in their office:)-

Taslima Nasreen is bening banned.

Efforts are being made to make Muslims SC, this eligible for reservation.

ALL TO RETAIN POWER AT ANY COST.

CAN YOU MAKE ANY PLAN, ANY RESERVATION IN INDIA BASED ON RELIGION? OBVIOUSLY NOT. MOST OF CPIM EFFORTS WILL BE THROWN OUT BY THE SUPREME COURT IN DUE COURSE.

BUT DAMAGE WILL ALREADY BE DONE. PEOPLE ARE SICK OF THESE ATTITUDES. AND ONLY BJP CAN GROW.



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RE:CPI(M) should be renamed as CPI(Muslims)
by Bhaskar Chattopadhyay on Apr 04, 2007 10:48 AM  Permalink

Instead of fencing Singur, Buddha should fence Indo-Bangla Border in war-footing, which has become infiltration route for infiltrators.

CPIM regularly engages in programme on Human rights of Cuba, which is 10,000 miles away.

WHY CPIM IS MUM ON BANGLADESH MINORITIES WHO ARE JUST 40 KM AWAY FROM CALCUTTA? OR 10,000,000 OF THEM DRIVEN OUT IN LAST 3-4 DECADES?

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RE:CPI(M) should be renamed as CPI(Muslims)
by Uttamkumar on Apr 04, 2007 11:29 AM  Permalink

CPM's heart does not beat for the immediate neighbour (few meters away) if people ideologically donot accept them.
They used lot of slangs against Rabindranath Tagore, Subhas Changra Bose, Shyama Prashad Mukherjee, Vivekananda and so on...

They love Ho chi Mihn, Mao etc.

They love cuba, pakistan etc...

But they donot love West Bengal and INDIA.


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Inheritance Taxes
by m on Apr 04, 2007 10:44 AM  Permalink 

Government should immediately impose Inheritance Taxes.
Or else India will disintegrate.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inheritance_taxes



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the present day problems
by Radhakrishnan S on Apr 04, 2007 10:29 AM  Permalink 

A damn by GOD ,i.e. nature/universe and its power, is over due to eliminate a part of the world and human being to restart the process to churn out another culture. wait for that like Tsunami.



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Human Rights Activists
by CG GANG on Apr 04, 2007 10:12 AM  Permalink  | Hide replies

Where is that Arundhati Roy Now, that bengali? Now we know what is the culture of Bengal. Bengalis are the most selfish people in india. They are not indians. They are banglas.

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RE:Human Rights Activists
by Gautam Sinha on Apr 04, 2007 10:16 AM  Permalink
Same can be said of Tamils, 'jaat' walas and everyone who speaks about their own classification based on race,caste or other ASPD syndromes. Get real man, Bengalis are Indians and also have a pride of race. Communists are not and do not necessarily reflect Bengali mindset.

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RE:Human Rights Activists
by Uttamkumar on Apr 04, 2007 10:31 AM  Permalink

CPM is surviing in bengal by the following ways

(1) Armed cadres force controls everything - BDO, SDO, District Magistrate, Police etc.

(2) Even District Magistrate attends the CPM party public-metting.

(3) Illegal Bangladeshis (including terrorists, anti-socials and criminals) inflow continuously
and getting ration card, voter ID to secure CPMs' vote bank.

(3) Opponent political force is not controlled by CPM politically but by ARMs and opponent
political leaders are murdered continuously in the dark.

(4) Congress Party is acting as a direct agent of CPM (B team) and congress leaders secure what
they need from CPM. only common people are suffering. So, congress party is just acting false.

(5) CPM politicized all sector and section of societies which is the total moral damage of the society too.

This damage is much more dangerous than any communal divide.

If you go the police station, police will not take FIR if you are not CPM supported person.

You will not get job if you do not join CPM party actively.
and so on.....


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RE:Human Rights Activists
by ANITEK BHATTACHARYA on Apr 04, 2007 11:00 AM  Permalink
Mr. Uttamkumar,
I totally agree with you on point no.(5) above. When I visit Bengal once or twice in a year and talk to people, I am bewildered to see how people (especially educated Bengali also) talk in consonance with the CPM party line. I expect some view of different patterns in a society ( Bengal or in any other state), but it is Bengal where you will get one sort of idea, that is party line. It is painful and frustrating as I am a Bengali and residing outside Bengal I can realise the real danger of this wide-scale brain wash in Bengal where logic is weighed on Party line. 20 years Back Bengali believe in Party line that English education is not necessary at primary level, but when after 20 years Party line re-discover that English is necessary at Primary level, all the Bengalees started believing the party line. I thank you for highlighting this point "total damage of the society." thank you Mr. Uttamkumar.


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RE:Human Rights Activists
by Uttamkumar on Apr 04, 2007 11:15 AM  Permalink

Anitek,
Thanks.

Even a social activist try to help people (I know few people failed to do so), they have to
get pass or green signal from CPM party and so on.

Husband-wife relation is divided by CPM party line, not by their own personal life line.

Brother-sister relation is divided by CPM party line... and so many...

I strongly believe this type damage of relation between people politicized by CPM is more
dangerous than any "communal devide" of the society.


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RE:Human Rights Activists
by Abed Jani on Apr 04, 2007 11:55 AM  Permalink
I do not know to whom you met in Bengal, but at least in my known circle I did find anyone who thought that English education is not necessary at the primary level. On the contrary people were very much against it, and kind of forced to choose English medium school for their children. And also I did not met people who are whole heartedly support every action taken by CPM. Also they do not like Congress either. May be I am just lucky or you are just unlucky. But "all the Bengalees started believing the party line" is a not a correct phrase. There are too many exceptions.

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RE:Human Rights Activists
by Pradip Dalal on Apr 04, 2007 10:55 AM  Permalink
I would like to include, Since last 30 yrs, they have tried to maintain the red-group. They never thought about improvement of the state. During 25 yrs of Mr. Jyoti Basu, they have tried to make people illeterate, lock the Industries, destroy the state's economical strength and see only abt the party. On arrival of Mr. Bhattacharya as new chief minister, he felt without Industrial development it is not possible to move forward. But Mr. Bhattacharya should do agree, the locks are already rusted during the last 25 yrs. and it is very much difficult to open the lock. In these cases you have to break the lock instead of trying to open that. I think 360 months is enough to destroy anything. So, think something positive and don't try to make people "ULLU".

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RE:Human Rights Activists
by Reboni Saha on Apr 04, 2007 10:44 AM  Permalink
Since I am an entry level activist in my own state, I have seen how many people sit on the sidelines and pass comments instead of doing their bit. I have a special dislike for those who keep calling for a few of the famous faces instead of doing something on their own. Does it occur to you that these 'Famous' faces are overloaded? Its a phenomenon that happens everywhere and thats the bloody problem. Thats why our politicains take us for a ride. Why dont you get off your high chair and do something about it yourself?

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RE:Human Rights Activists
by Sahadevan KK on Apr 04, 2007 12:12 PM  Permalink
Now Arundhati Roy and Medha Patkar might know the truth that about 3500 people of CPI(M)workers and supporters are forced to live in the tents out of Nandigram by the Trinamool Congress/COngress/BJP/Ulema Hind/SUCI/Maoist goons.

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RE:Human Rights Activists
by Uttamkumar on Apr 05, 2007 09:16 PM  Permalink
If
Trinamool Congress/COngress/BJP/Ulema Hind/SUCI/Maoist really unit effectively, that's even good for Bengal. Because State sponsored (misusing laws and police) terrorism by CPM will be controlled effectively.
ANd that's the end of you and CPM.


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RE:Human Rights Activists
by Abed Jani on Apr 04, 2007 10:29 AM  Permalink
We Indians are more or less selfish and not very Indians. We love to hate people from other states. Just look at yourself.

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RE:Human Rights Activists
by global comp on Apr 04, 2007 10:45 AM  Permalink
CG Gang u r correct, i had very bad experience with these people. in india, they are the most selfish people.

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RE:Human Rights Activists
by Ujjwal on Apr 04, 2007 10:55 AM  Permalink
Abey Global Comp (Don't know why U people do not have courage to even tell your real name) if U have any personal bad experience with Bengalis, Punjabi's, South Indian's or Marathi's, that doesn't make any sense to comment on whole community. If everything U consider according to your personal experience with someone, that will make U more selfish than others, because we always keep busy ourselves in pointing finger towards others, but forget that the rest 4 fingers r pointing towards us. One need to understand very clearly that a particular person can be good or bad, not any whole community in the world.

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mafaic communists are fascists
by Suman Bhat on Apr 04, 2007 10:00 AM  Permalink  | Hide replies

mafia communitsts are fascists
naxales and other anti national foreces
like jihadi terrorists are supported by
mafia marxits the communists hands are red with blood of innocent ppl lakhs. of innocent ppl in russia and china are vicitms of maifa communists brutality media did not make nay noise abut sullagiri or nandi garam b'cuz ind media controlled by communists fascist force. thanks to Mamata bannerji who tried to get the public attention for brutal killing of innocent ppl in nandigram. media did not make killing of poor minority hindus in jummu last week.
baraqa datta and budddev and parakash karat heart never bleeds when communists killed innocent ppl these secular taliban forces only knew about babri demolition and guj riot
shame on mafia communitsts
communists force supported illegal mullas from bangadesh now same mullas only getting control over local force and did not allowe police to eneter the village. when poor hinust lost life nobody makes noise. IF nandi gram happened in bjp ruled states ind media would huge noise aobut it.

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RE:mafaic communists are fascists
by Ken Mathew on Apr 04, 2007 10:28 AM  Permalink
The politicians chose the attack..what has that anything got to do with Muslims. Why is that sentiments go against a religion when a party discriminates.

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RE:mafaic communists are fascists
by Bhaskar Chattopadhyay on Apr 04, 2007 10:31 AM  Permalink

Ken: you don't know details about Nandigram.

CPIM caders and police attacked 2-3 villages where Muslim population were minimal/zero.

Muslim villages were spared though those villages organized more opposition.

PRACTICALLY, CPIM HAS COMMUNALISED ITS INDUSTRIAL POLICY.

What Uttam is saying is true. He is from a place near Nandigram. He knows many stuff.

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RE:mafaic communists are fascists
by Ujjwal on Apr 04, 2007 10:37 AM  Permalink
Dear Uttam, Don't comment on any Hindu-Muslim Community. It is simply selfish political matter, nothing to do with any community. No party in India is concerned about any community, but only making all of us fool for votes, by supporting Hindu or Muslim.

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RE:mafaic communists are fascists
by Uttamkumar on Apr 04, 2007 11:17 AM  Permalink

Ujjwal,
I have pointed out few facts. You infer the way you like it.
I also pointed out what Prakash Karat said.


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RE:mafaic communists are fascists
by Lotiya Pathan on Apr 05, 2007 06:40 AM  Permalink
u r right suman..
this commie people ruined bengal..
virtually ruining country too..

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