There is no point in blaming politicians for religious violence. Politicians are just exploiting the divide which is there already. If you have infighting in your family an outsider can act as a catalyst and aggravate your problems.
There is only one solution which is never practical. Hindus respect Muslims and Christians and admit their believes are also right along with their own believes. Similarly Christians should also respect Hindus and Muslims and admit their believes as right . Muslims also should respect Hindu and Christian religions and their believes.
If any one of these major religions in India thinks they are superior to others there won't be peace. If any one of them thinks only they are right then there is no peace. This is what exactly happening in India.
Religious Books and believes which spreads hatred against other religions should be banned.
Lucknow have history of communal violence in between Shias and Sunnis. No relaxation in Curfew till normalcy returns. This is an election time, politicians are ready for their job to garner votes by flaring communal sentiments.
Islam has always pride itself as a religion of aggression...Muslims defend mohammad even when they know that his chief occupation in life was robbing caravans ... Now what kind of fruits grow on a rotten tree!!
RE:Islam is not the religion of peace
by ammy on Apr 02, 2007 05:22 PM Permalink
If you dont have guts to admit the truth thats your problem, dahling...but i merely repeated what sahih hadiths and koran confirms!! Anyway, according to you, what was mohammad's source of income on which he ran a house full of twenty wives, three concubines and slaves??
RE:Islam is not the religion of peace
by ammy on Apr 02, 2007 06:36 PM Permalink
Dear Bakshi, if you dont have the answers or spine,you may not answer...Nobody is forcing you to answer it. That however doesnot entitle you to flinch my freedom of speech. Mohammad was a historical figure just like hitler...If you choose to hero worship him...its entirely your choice to do so...Dont try to impose it on others. Got it!!
RE:Islam is not the religion of peace
by on Apr 03, 2007 08:03 AM Permalink
If You talk about Islam ,then if you go in deep there is no basis of Hindu religion.Its all made up stories by few people who had nothing else to do.Look at your festivals,Diwali people get burnt and level of poluution is highest that time,Holi:People has skin problems and some even lose their eyesight because of Colours the list goes on and on.You people call Krishna Bagwan (if they ever existed) a butter thief and a womenisor.Its high time Hindus should realize only religion is Islam and they all should Convert to Islam.If you have any sense you will be the first to convert to Islam.
RE:Islam is not the religion of peace
by ammy on Apr 03, 2007 08:54 AM Permalink
Dear Ajit, iam not assuming things about mohammad...He was indeed an arab mafia, who derived his support from like minded uneducated unemployed youth who wanted to grow rich without putting inmuch efforts. Koran and Sahih hadiths confirms this...just incase you where not aware. And no all religions dont preach the same...neither are all religions lead path to the same God.
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by ammy on Apr 03, 2007 09:00 AM Permalink
Dear, there is nothing in any vedas or any hindu scripture that shows krishna as a womaniser...The stories of krishna and gopis surface in moughal times as a colourful theme for dances in the court...Strangly the inventors of these stories were sufis who danced in circles and thought of themselves as lovers of god...
RE:Islam is not the religion of peace
by biju nair on Apr 02, 2007 10:40 PM Permalink
Hi Dear Ajit,
I have and advice for you if you don't feel bad. Take a break from your occupation for a couple of days and read Quran and Hadiths care fully and analyze them.
RE:It is a good thing
by Rutvik patel on Apr 02, 2007 04:46 PM Permalink
Yes Budhha,
Religion of peace is so peaceful that it is sending it's own followers to heaven/hell. Good job guys. This can be the best you can give to Prophet on his birthday.
7) " O people! Fear Allah concerning women. Verily you have taken them on the security of Allah and made their persons lawful unto by words of Allah. Certainly you have rights over your women and your women have some rights over you. It is incumbent upon them to honour their rights and not to commit acts of Impropriety and are faithful to you, cloths and feed them suitable.
Behold ! lay injunction upon women but kindly. Behold! Listen to me Worship your Allah offer prayers few times a day : observe fast in the month of Ramazan ; make pilgrimage to the House (Ka'abah); pay readily the Zakat on your Wealth and obey whatever I command you, only then you will get into the Heaven.
Let him that is present convey it unto him who is absent. For happily, many people to home the massage is conveyed may be more mindful of it than the audience,.
The Holy Prophet (PBUH) addressing the people next day also added: " O people verily your Allah is one as your father is one All of you belong to one ancestry of Adam and Adam was created out of clay. There is no superiority for an Arab over a non Arab and for a non-Arab over an Arab; nor for white over the black nor for the black over the white except the piety. Verily the noblest among you is he who is the most pious
Behold, the nearer ones of you should convey the message to the remoter ones. I have conveyed the message. Then looking up to the heaven, he said:
"O Allah! I have delivered the message and discharged my ministry."
"Yes," cried all the people crowding round him, "Yes, verily you have" "O Allah! I beseech Thee bear Thou witness unto it ". (PBUH).
Ya Allah unite us, guide us, let us not stray from the right path shown by our beloved Prophet. Bring all of the Muslim Ummah under one Umbrella. Amin
RE:Oh Muslims!
by ammy on Apr 02, 2007 05:13 PM Permalink
SHUK, listen buddy, you forgot to tell us where did mohammad delivered this speech!! Well, well, He delivered this speech, when he was standing in front of ten thousand muslim soldiers who were supposed to march to syria to fight a war!! Mohammad was so peaceful lovy- dovy dahling!!
RE:Oh Muslims!
by ammy on Apr 02, 2007 05:32 PM Permalink
Im not rude atall dahling...You seem ashammed of the truth. Well,bakshi, Mohammad had already given orders to his men to invade syria...That was the time he addressed them and delivered this sermon. Now what kind of peaceloving man would instigate war? think...
RE:Oh Muslims!
by Rutvik patel on Apr 02, 2007 06:43 PM Permalink
And Mr. Bakshi, It's legal to make a kid wife?? Isn't that true with prophet? I respect Kuran and Prophet, but in return, I demand respect from you about our Gods and Holy books, by abusing Bhagawat Geeta and Ramayan, you will only get abuse of Koran and Prophet. So Be careful what you write. You will get it back in the same fashion. bye
RE:Oh Muslims!
by ammy on Apr 02, 2007 06:48 PM Permalink
Dear Bakshi, if you are judge in a murder case, would you accept an accuse to defend his case by saying, 'I know someone else who murdered more men than me?'...Is that a defence?? So what if ram krishna etc etc also killed...How does that prove mohammad was innocent?? Two wrongs dont make a right. However for the sake of comparision, Ram lived four thousand years before mohammad, still he didnot give orders to rape lankan women after his victory over Ravan, nor did he enslaved lankans...Now compare this with mohammad And judge for yourself... Btw, im not a hindu or a christian.
Let us first become Muslims (the followers of Prophet Muhammad) again. We Muslims are strayed from the right path and started evil practices of Mushriks and Munafiqeens thus following Murshads, Amils, Dargas, Alams, Fatiha, Kunday, etc. Did prophet Muhammad ever have any of such practices in his whole life? Did prophet Muhammad hide anything from us? Didn%u2019t prophet Muhammad show us the right path?
Please read the Farewell Sermon of the Prophet delivered on 10th Zilhajja 10th Hijri at Mina, Mecca sitting on Kaswa.
1) "O people listen to my words : I will deliver a message to you, for I know not whether, after this year, I shall ever be amongst you here again,"
2) "O people verily your blood, your property and your honour are sacred and invaluable until you appear before your Allah as this day and this month is sacred for all verily you will meet your Allah and you will be held responsible for your actions, have I not conveyed the message? O Allah! Be my witness.
3) " Beware no one committing a crime is responsible for it but himself. Neither the son is responsible for the crime of his father, nor the father is responsible for the crime of his son.
4) " O people Listen to my words and understand then. You must know then that a Muslim is the brother of every Muslim and they form one brotherhood.
5) Behold! All practices of paganism and ignorance are now under my feet the blood revenges of the days of ignorance are remitted.
6) " Usury is forbidden. But you will be entitled to recover your principal. Do not wrong and you shall not be wronged. Allah has decreed that their should be no usury and I make a beginning by remitting the amount of interest which Abbas(Raz) bin Abdul Muttalib has to receive verily it is remitted entirely.
7) " O people! Fear Allah concerning women. Verily you have taken them on the security of Allah and made their persons lawful unto by words of Allah. Certainly you have rights over yo
RE:Oh Muslims!
by syed hamid on Apr 02, 2007 05:03 PM Permalink
I understand that ppl do things which are unislamic in julus and procession which is only due to the fact that they lack knowledge. But this does not mean that fateha, visting darga is biddat..
it is your sect which is biddat which has arose in the later part of islam's history there by fulfilling our beloved prophet's prophecy about deviated sects
sects will appear in the latter part of islam, and they will go away like an arrow goes out of a bow, they will be stead fast in their worship but in fact will be deviated.
I question you, that right from day 1 of Islam till 18th century there was only one group ahle sunnat. there have been great number of walis and aalims who have passed but none objected? why?
now question yourself what is right and what is wrong..
You talk about Fatiha, go read the hadiths with open eyes, our beloved Prophet did pray after his son's(May Allah's Mercy be on him) death having some dates which were distributed among the sahabas who were present.
The Holy Prophet (Sall Allaho alaihi wasallam) made Qurbani of two well built rams with horns. He sacrificed them with his blessed hands and said, Bismillahi Allahu Akbar, O Allah, This is from my behalf and on behalf of all those in my Ummah who did not make Qurbani.This Hadith has been narrated by Ahmed, Abu Dawood and Tirmizi on the authority of Hazrat Jaabir (radi Allahu anhu).
when a qurbani made on behalf of ummah(also for ppl who have not yet come in this world) is accepted and practiced by our beloved prophet(P.B.U.H), if we recite quranic aayats and pray for deceased it is not permissible.
It is in Sahih Bukhari and Muslim on the authority of Ummul Mo%u2019mineen Sayyida Aisha Siddiqa (radi Allahu anha), A person came to the Prophet (Sall Allaho alaihi wasallam) and said that his mother passed away suddenly and he felt that if she had anything to say before her death, she would have requested sadqa. He asked that if she would receive any sawaab if he made sadqa on her behalf. The Prophet (Sall Allaho alaihi wasallam) answered by saying, %u2018Yes%u2019 (she would receive the reward).
when a well dug is of benefit for a person's mother, then the quranic aayat's which is word of Allah don't have any weightage if we recite and pray for a decease and name it as fateha.
If you have common-sencee you would understand this simple act of fateha.
Alhe sunnat has produced ppl like Abdul Qadir Jilani, Khwaja Gareeb Nawaaz, Ahmed Raza and many many more ( May Allah's mercy and peace be on them all) your sects don't even have aalims who can equal to them,
they spread islam among millions and millions of kuffars .
even though it is waste to tell you all these, sometimes i cannot tolerate insanes like you targeting aalims, buzorgaane deen and our master Maaz Allah..
Pray to Allah that he give hidaaya to you and guide you to the straight path
RE:Oh Muslims!
by Bangalorean on Apr 02, 2007 03:44 PM Permalink
Good Very Good Keep sending these type of messages so that all Muslims can learn many things
RE:Oh Muslims!
by abdul khader jeelani on Apr 02, 2007 04:03 PM Permalink
Twelve Proofs that Muhammad is a True Prophet By Shaykh `Abdul Rahman `Abdul Khaliq
My brothers and sisters everywhere! With this essay, I am not singling out the adherents of Islam - to which I ascribe - but rather I am writing this essay to every man and woman throughout the whole world.
I ask Allah that He facilitates tat this essay reaches every ear, falls under the sight of every eye, and is understood by every heart...
Muhammad the son of `Abdullah is Allah's Prophet and the Final Messenger Sent by Allah to the Inhabitants of Earth.
My brothers and sisters everywhere! You should know that the Messenger, Muhammad the son of `Abdullah (may Allah's blessings and peace be upon him) is Allah's Messenger in reality and truth. The evidences that show his veracity are abundant. None but an infidel, who out of arrogance alone, could deny these signs.
Among these proofs:
1. Muhammad (may Allah's blessings and peace be upon him) was raised illiterate, unable to read or write, and remained like that till his death. Among all his people, he was known as being truthful and trustworthy. Before receiving revelation, he had no prior knowledge of Religion or any previously sent Message. He remained like that for his first forty years. Revelation then came to Muhammad with the Koran that we now have between our hands. This Koran mentioned most of the accounts found in the previous scriptures, telling us about these events in the greatest detail as if he witnessed them. These accounts came precisely as they were found in the Torah sent down to Moses and in the Gospel sent down to Jesus. Neither the Jews or Christians were able to belie him regarding anything that he said.
2. Muhammad (may Allah's blessings and peace be upon him) also foretold of everything that would occur to him and his community after him, pertaining to victory, the removal of the tyrannical kingdoms of Chosroes [the royal title for the Zoroastrian kings of Persia] and Caesar, and the establishment of the religion of Islam throughout the earth. These events occurred exactly as Muhammad foretold, as if he was reading the future from an open book.
3. Muhammad (may Allah's blessings and peace be upon him) also brought an Arabic Koran that is the peak of eloquence and clarity. The Koran challenged those eloquent and fluent Arabs of his time, who initially belied him, to bring forth a single chapter like the Koran. The eloquent Arabs of his day were unable to contest this Koran.
Indeed, till our day, none has ever dared to claim that he has been able to compose words that equal-or even approach-the order, grace, beauty, and splendor of this Glorious Koran.
4. The life history of this Noble Prophet was a perfect example of being upright, merciful, compassionate, truthful, brave, generous, distant from all evil character, and ascetic in all worldly matters, while striving solely for the reward of the Hereafter. Moreover, in all his actions and dealings, he was ever mindful and fearful of Allah.
5. Allah instilled great love for Muhammad (may Allah's blessings and peace be upon him) in the hearts of all who believed in and met him. This love reached such a degree that any of his companions would willingly sacrifice his (or her) self, mother or father for him.
Till today, those who believe in Muhammad honor and love him. Anyone of those who believe in him would ransom his own family and wealth to see him, even if but once.
6. All of history has not preserved the biography of any person in the manner it has preserved the life of Muhammad, who is the most influential human in history.
Nor has the entire earth known of anyone whom every morning and evening, and many times thereafter throughout the day, is thought of by those who believe in him. Upon remembering Muhammad, the believers in him will greet him and ask Allah to bless him. They do such with full hearts and true love for him.
7. Nor has there every been a man on earth whom is still followed in all his doings by those who believe in him.
Those who believe in Muhammad, sleep in the manner he slept; purify themselves (through ablution and ritual washing) in the manner he purified himself; and adhere to his practice in the way they eat, drink, and clothe themselves.
Indeed in all aspects of their lives, the believers in Muhammad adhere to the teachings he spread among them and the path that he traveled upon during his life.
During every generation, from his day till our time, the believers in this Noble Prophet have fully adhered to his teachings. With some, this has reached the degree that they desire to follow and adhere to the Prophet's way in his personal matters regarding which Allah has not sought of them to adhere to in worship. For example, some will only eat those specific foods or only wear those specific garments that the Messenger liked.
Let alone all that, all those who believe in Muhammad repeat those praises of Allah, special prayers, and invocations that he would say during each of his actions during day and night, like: what he would say when he greeted people, upon entering and leaving the house, entering and leaving the mosque, entering and leaving the bathroom, going to sleep and awaking from sleep, observing the new crescent, observing the new fruit on trees, eating, drinking, dressing, riding, traveling and returning from travel, etc.
Let alone all that, all those who believe in Muhammad fully perform-even to the minute detail-every act of worship-like prayer, fasting, charity, and pilgrimage-as this Noble Messenger (may Allah's blessings and peace be upon him) taught and as he himself performed.
All of this allows those who believe in him, to live their lives in all aspects with this Noble Messenger as their example, as if he was standing before them, for them to follow in all their doings.
8. There has never been nor will there ever be a man anywhere upon this earth who has received such love, respect, honor, and obedience in all matters-small and large alike-as has this Noble Prophet.
9. Since his day, in every region of the earth and during every period, this Noble Prophet has been followed by individuals from all races, colors and peoples. Many of those who followed him were previously Christians, Jews, pagans, idolaters, or without any religion. Among those who chose to follow him, were those who were known for their sound judgment, wisdom, reflection, and foresight. They chose to follow this Noble Prophet after they witnessed the signs of his truthfulness and the evidences of his miracles. They did not choose to follow Muhammad out of compulsion or coercion or because they had adopted the ways of their fathers and mothers.
Indeed many of the followers of this Prophet (may Allah's blessings peace be upon him), chose to follow him during the time when Islam was weak, when there were few Muslims, and when there was severe persecution of his followers on earth. Most people who have followed this Prophet (may Allah's blessings and peace be upon him) have done so not to acquire some material benefits. Indeed many of his followers have suffered the greatest forms of harm and persecution as a result of following this Prophet. Despite all this harm and persecution, this did not turn them back from his religion.
My brethren! All of this clearly indicates to anyone possessing any sense, that this Prophet was truly and really Allah's messenger and that he was not just a man who claimed prophethood or spoke about Allah without knowledge.
10. With all this, Muhammad came with a great religion in its credal and legal make-up.
Muhammad described Allah with qualities of complete perfection, and at the same time in a manner that is free of ascribing to Him any imperfection. Neither the philosophers or the wise could ever describe Allah like such. Indeed it is impossible to imagine that any human mind could conceive of an existing being that possesses such complete ability, knowledge, and greatness; Who has subdued the creation; Who has encompassed everything in the universe, small or large; and Who possesses such perfect mercy.
Nor is it in the ability of any human being to place a perfect law based upon justice, equality, mercy and objectivity for all human activity on earth like the laws that Muhammad brought for all spheres of human activity - like buying and selling, marriage and divorce, renting, testimony, custody, and all other contracts that are necessary to uphold life and civilization on earth.
11. It is impossible that any person conceive wisdom,, morals, good manners, nobleness of characters as what this honorable Prophet (may Allah's blessings and peace be upon him) brought.
In a full and complete manner, Muhammad spread a teaching regarding character and manners toward one' parents, relatives, fiends, family, humanity, animals, plants and inanimate objects. It is impossible for the human mind alone to grasp all of that teaching or come with a similar teaching.
All of that unequivocally indicates that this Messenger did not bring an) of this religion from his own accord, but that it was rather a teaching and inspiration that he received from the One Who created the earth and the high heavens above and created this universe in its miraculous architecture and perfection.
12. The legal and credal make-up of the religion that the Messenger, Muhammad, (may Allah's blessings and peace be upon him) brought resembles the engineering of the heavens and the earth. All of that indicates that He who created the heavens and the earth is the One Who sent down this great law and upright religion.
The degree of inimitability of the Divine law that was sent down upon Muhammad is to the same degree of inimitability of the Divine creation of the heavens and earth. For just as humanity cannot create this universe, in the same manner humanity cannot bring forth a law like Allah's law that He sent down upon His servant and messenger Muhammad (may Allah's blessings and
RE:Oh Muslims!
by Rutvik patel on Apr 02, 2007 04:50 PM Permalink
GUys, With due respect to your religion and Prophet, This is not madressa. You have a right to be respectful about your religion so do I. Do you want me to write whole vedas, upanishads, ramayan,mahabharat and bhagawat? This is not a place to placate people from other religion. Each person believe his religion is the best. In reality, all the religions are best if you understand and follow them properly and if religion is progressive. You cannot live life with rules written 1500 years ago. Religion has to be progressive without diluting their core principles. I hope you all understand. Jay Hind
RE:Oh Muslims!
by ajit verma on Apr 02, 2007 08:31 PM Permalink
Hi T bakshi,
4. The life history of this Noble Prophet was a perfect example of being upright, merciful, compassionate, truthful, brave, generous, distant from all evil character, and ascetic in all worldly matters, while striving solely for the reward of the Hereafter. Moreover, in all his actions and dealings, he was ever mindful and fearful of Allah.
Why do u get Angry so soon. and before replying read the quote about Prophet carefully.
RE:Oh Muslims!
by biju nair on Apr 02, 2007 11:24 PM Permalink
Hey Ajit!!!!!!!! I advised you not to comment until you complete your home work of reading Quran and Hadiths completely.
Now I am adding one more assignment to you. Read and analyze all expeditions undertaken under the leadership of Prophet Mohammed. Find out who attacked whom, I mean who was the aggressor and how the aggressor treated the victims.
RE:Oh Muslims!
by Rutvik patel on Apr 02, 2007 06:45 PM Permalink
Mr Bakshi, I know my religion. Do you know yours? Is your religion teaching you this hatred (sick fellow??). Read my writing, this is what my religion is teaching me. Just by one line, you are describing your religion. That's sad, because your religion is also great like mine is. I accept this, but you think that only your religion is great. Grow up.
Time and again religion and caste have been excuses for riots. So should religious practices be more of a private matter and not exhibition? Is it religious to pomp out, does it not violate humility? Is it religious to be intolerant or voilent? Does it not violate peace? To stop religion from getting a bad name, I humbly suggest a heavy restriction on public religious ceremonies.
