I sympthize with Tarun. He is really totally disconnected with the real India.
If you need any Medical help next time make sure that 30 % of the time you visit SC doctors, the next 30% of your medical needs you go to ST docs, the next 27% you go to OBC docs. Ask them if they have availed the reservstion system and you want to be part of this reservation-based society and support it whole heartedly....
Get back to reality Mr. Tarun.. You will look out for the best trained and best brain in the medical field to treat your family/loved ones.
Hope you get the point and appreciate the value of Merit.
The same goes for other ( non-medical)fields as well. Uplifting a section of society need not be caste based reservsations. this will only make sure that caste based discrimination will continue. And may be that was your intent in supporting reservation....:)
hi, Before narrating these theoritical stuff from virginia can you plz go and have a look at the village panchayats' leaders whose works you are exaggerating. Most female leaders in the villages are puppets in the hands of their husbands . In the IIT's how much of the SC/ST seats are actually filled, and how many of those entering through reservation complete their Btech in the stipulated time frame. Also while writing a column on such a sensitive issue can you plz support your claims with numbers and verifyable sources of such numbers. What Dr Ambedkar meant was reservations should be taken off after a timeframe. Is 57 years not enough of a time frame . Three generations are supposed to get privileged within this time . How much more quotas do you want. How many more cast certificates do you want to sell ????
Well, the biggest blunder that the Govt, is making again and again is that they want to do the reservations based on Caste system.
And I am sure, we all would agree that the Indian society would have been a better one, had the caste system not been there.
Instead, of providing reservations for various caste, the Government can provide free education uptill 12th std and thereby provide all the students an equal platform to appear in competitions.
Now this free education facility must not be provided based on CASTE. Instead it should be provided based on the family INCOME, i.e. by identifying families who do not have enough income to support education of their children.
If the reservations are totally based on caste system, then the students who have been getting decent/quality education and are not making through the merit list, will benefit. I am sure this is the backbone of thought behind the protests being raised by various students across India.
I hope, the govt re-thinks what it is doing and does not simply harp about what is written in the constitution 50 years ago.
The societies are evolving all the time across the globe. It is time we do some catch up.
Admitting the groups is not the issue, its about admitting those that have lived in society like all of us and are probably even better off than most of us middle-class folks. Why should a person who has just been branded a Dalit and in no way representative of his "community" be given preferential treatment? Because he KNOWS his community?? Give me a break! In India we've been brought up to forget that the caste system exists and thats what this generation believes in. Unknowingly (or knowingly?) the policy-makers are trying to divide India, but I'm sure we will come out resurgent.
And how many such communities will that one guy represent? India has a plethora of communities, castes, dialects. An action like this is no way representing their interests. The Business sense also, in turn, flows down the drain, if you get what I mean.
The better way in my opinion would be to go via a financial meter, where the truly less privileged ones have a higher chance. 50% makes absolutely no sense and backing it without good logic is sad. Dont let merit hurt. Failing to provide good primary/education facilities is no excuse for the govt to mess with the system.
I think you have confused two things. Your concern about education system not being able to connect to the so called "real india" makes sense to some extent, the solution you are proposing certainly does not.
Cast based reservation is going to get the OBCs get in to these institutes easily but is not going to change what is being taught. Then what makes you think it will help them connect back to their roots. Isn't the solution then is to improve the curriculum so that ALL the students understand the intricacies of the real life problems. And what makes you think that its only the OBCs that have useful traditional knowledge and not the so called Upper Castes.
If the concern here is the welfare of OBCs, isn't the solution again is to have better educational facilities for them at all levels including primary schools and so on. This will help them understand everything at the very basic level and join the mainstream institutions if they want to in a better and much more deserving manner. Why doesn't the government make sure that they get the similar facilities to study so that they are on par with everyone else. And Of Course, helping them economically is Always Welcome
sir i totally agree wid ur views that students from diverse backgrounds might add value to the education but sir tell me how many students from the real needy helpless classes are able to get basic education so that they can be able to get higher education.....these seats r grabbed by those whose fathers have come at par wid others nd get the same education as us....i have not come across a single friend of mine who comes an adivasi or such background.....so the whole rational behind caste based reservations is taking us nowhere...the same set of families r getting preferences....so dont u think economic based reservation will be much better option.....nd still better be to provide high class basic education to the real needy ppl??
why are making me laugh by doing this type of work.It's a very well known fact that IITs and IIMs have quality of international level. Many pass out students are doing very good reaserch abroad, many of them have been given offer of prfessorship in the reputed universities... many IIM students are working for top MNCs of the world. But still some exceptions are everywhere and its the habit of the failure persons to blaim the institute, the system and the country. I think you are giving the example of these type of persons only. If reservation policy is implemented in such repute institutes then they would reach at the condition which you are talking about....
The problem is not with ideology. The problem is with implementation. If implemented properly, reseravtions will vanish in another 100 years. And there is no sign of it happening with SC/ST reservations. School education is just missing because of corrupt and inept handling of this critical subject.
Mr. Jain, I come from the place ( Aurangabad, M.S) where Dr. B.Ambedkar led his last part of life and built a college. Being from the same town I was taught by professor who worked with Dr. Ambedkar in his college and his thoughts on reservation were very different apparently than what you are writing or being professed. He wanted reservation for his background people but not more than 10 years. His belief was having resevation long term will not help that section of society as it will become lethargic rather will prove detrimental. Politicians and half knowledge people about understanding of what our founding father of constituion of had, is causing more pain in getting india economic prosperity and division in society. The percentage of reservation in US and India is very different which u perhaps understand being a Ph.D. Please don't comapre Apple and oranges. The issue is not about just getting admissions and seats in colleges but even for getting jobs in private sector. My suggestion for people like u is why don't u send your daughter/son to Zilla Parishad high school so that they can learn directly the diversity etc .? But I am sure u won't, for obvious reasons. Ponder a bit.
