Its seems like Hindus are Paragons of Virtue, they are the Angels who have descended from Heavans while all Muslims are born Terrorists who have been and are Blood Thirsty.
BTW facts prove it otherwise.The Home Ministry Report on Hindu-Muslim Riots proves that it is 100% of the time the Majority Community that Initiates the Riots (Read Hindus) and its always scores more of Minority Community that killed in the riots, even by the biased police forces who are suppossed to uphold Raj Dharma and their means of livelihood destroyed.Moreover its mostly the Muslims who are jailed for the riots while the Majority Hindus go scott free because of political connections or whatever!!!! And we completely forget the politics we play in neighbouring countries.Is not RAW involved in Bomb Blasts in all major Pakistani Cities? Didnt we liberate Bangladesh since we didnot like East Pakistan and tortured more than 100,000 pakistani soldiers? Do we really treat the Minority Community fairly in India? Let alone the Muslim Community we dont even treat the Lower Caste Hindus justly so all our claims ring hollow and lay bare our Hypocrisy!!!!
RE:Brain Washed Who?
by lina on Aug 06, 2006 01:10 AM Permalink
hey durga, don't spread false informations. just read it in plain english, or should i give you a web address of the same? majority of the riots in india or else-where in the world are triggered by minorities(read islam).but it blows out of proportion and mostly hurt are the minorities.it was written in context to gujrat riots.am i correct?dated... i will let you know later. please , can you kindly relate a true information, about how and when even a single riot was triggered by the majority community? take it for e.g. varanasi riots, azamgarh riots,meerut riots,kanpur riots, etc.etc. should the majority been involved in riotings, then there would have been a massive riots post-delhi, shramjeevi,varanasi, and now bombay blasts.
the perished in the mumbai blasts also includes muslims. and didn't u guys see muslims lining up to donate blood for the victims. please come out of ur jaundiced view and offer your hand of co-operation to the muslims
RE:muslims need justice
by sunil on Aug 06, 2006 01:17 AM Permalink
yea daisy, you are correct. we should help the muslims.isn't this what mulayam is doing?isn't he supporting simi? we all should applaud and pat on their backs for the delhi-blasts, mumbai blasts, varanasi-blasts...
What needs to be done is manyfold. Close border with Bangladesh/Nepal/POK. Issue ID cards on a war footing like ration card and weed out infiltrators from BD/PAK/Nepal. Even in a city as far removed from WB as Bangalore, all u need is to walk on commercial street, etc where u find that almost all parking attendants etc are bengali speaking. Are they really indians, also the salesmen who come door to door are all bengali speaking. These guys should be thoroughly checked. They have not come just for a living, but have deep rooted plans. Imam Bukhari has openly said as per earlier article by Mr TV Shenoy that he is praying to God for a muslim rule in India. These should be treated as treason. The only way we can weed out these terrorists will be with a tremendous will and help from our muslim brothers , who have been living in peace 99% of the time they have been living in india but for some rare incidents. They should form watchgroups and assist the police/military to get these infiltrators and terrorists who are spoiling the name of Islam and are making the majority community people look at their brothers with whom they have shared a lifetime with suspicion.
There are very few muslims condemning the Mumbai attacks. Attacking Hindus does not help any of their cause. India has always been supportive of Muslim causes aound the world.
Muslims have very few support around the world these days.Alianating hindus also will hurt them. Just take a look at Lebanon. We are shocked at the brutality of Isralis. But does any body complain? Are anybody helping?
Muslims should know what their priorities are before it is too late.
Where this fear and insecurity will take us; how will be learn to live with mutual respect, harmony and peace by
Junned Khan on Aug 01, 2006 11:49 AM Permalink| Hide replies | Hide message
So many new words have been added recently to our lexicon; insurgency, infiltration, surveilance, terrorism. Are we receding in a state of infinite fear and insecurity.
Each terrorist attack gives so much work to even retired Police Officers as they start suggesting in newspapers about new ways of fighting terrorism by force; put up survielence systems, create special task forces, start identification system and so on. Slowly all our liberties will be taken care of by security forces.
But, what they seem to be concerned is for big cities, pride and just artificial security measures.
On the contrary, the answer to fighting terrorism remains in the strong social unity and harmony that exists among different communities. Especially, in the small cities, towns and villages of India. For example in UP all of us live in complete harmony. A Muslim tailor does not mind stiching clothes for a Hindu brother; niether a Hindu grosser feels bad about delivering goods at a Muslim household.
These relationships are based on love and respect. Will our kind politicians, bureaurocrat-philosophers and fire fighters please help preserve this reindship. The evil designs will completely fail
RE:Where this fear and insecurity will take us; how will be learn to live with mutual respect, harmony and peace
by Abhik RayChaudhury on Aug 01, 2006 07:03 PM Permalink
Very nicely said. We common people are smart and understand this. However, our ELECTED politicians are a bunch of cowards who are hell bent on destrying the national security from within!! I consder the terrorist at our border in Pakistan a less of a threat thatn a Mulayam Singh Yadav.
RE:Where this fear and insecurity will take us; how will be learn to live with mutual respect, harmony and peace
by Raja on Aug 03, 2006 12:28 PM Permalink
Well Said Bhai,
because of a few people the name of Islam is getting sullied. How can we forget the hours we spent watching Ramayana and Mahabarat on TV and enjoyed so much, and who wrote them, bur our brother Dr Masoom Reza. Common men have no problems ever in india, neither do the main leaders. Muslim brothers, it is your time to condemn openly the statement of people like Inam Bukhari who openly says he is preying for the return of Muslim rule in india. The Muslims have lived a priveleged life in india. Which country is giving a subsidy of 300 crores a year for them to visit mecca. Which country is giving them a separate civil code and allow them to follow their own shariat laws. I mean such priveleges for a minority community. These come from a deep rooted relationship and freindship. Comments from Imam etc will make these vanish quickly. More incidents like Mumbai blast will help such thinking and create a feeling of fear and with that deep rooted animosity will happen, whichw will make life very difficult for us and our brother muslims to live in peace and harmony. Their life will become difficult like it has become for anyone with a beard in the US with a brown complexion
RE:Where this fear and insecurity will take us; how will be learn to live with mutual respect, harmony and peace
by lina on Aug 03, 2006 12:55 PM Permalink
hey,
what about azamgarh riots, kisnanand rai's murder, varanasi blasts, etc...? u.p. peaceful, huh?
Mr. Bhagat what u say is right. But muslims are up against terror since long back, but the problem in our country that no one listens to muslims. nO media coverage, no govt. hearing & non believing of us as INDIAN.
We dont have any power and have only name sack represantation in Intelligence agencies.
Unless untill you take us to walk with you we cant help at a large scale. Only making some poor muslim youth informers of police or intelligence agencies will not help.
Also there is Naxalites & Ulfa kinds of terror growing in our country, which you are overlooking, any plan for that Mr. Bhagat? or Only Muslims are Terrorist?
Whatever?
But as an Indian Muslim we are doing our duties what we need only little faith and courage from our fellow countryman.
RE:Undeclare War!!
by Abhik RayChaudhury on Aug 01, 2006 06:59 PM Permalink
I do agree completely. This is not a Hindu-Muslim issue. This is a proxy war waged by pakistan, and as such should be considered an India-pakistan issue. Pakistani establishment is desperate to drive a wage between the two communities of India, which must be resisted. We have to neutralise Pakistan and their agents in India, including people like Mulayam Singh Yadav.
We will not all the time blame Pakistan for all these attacks. The weakness lies in our Govt. In the very beginning of the problem our govt fails to react. Now when it spreads all over the country we are searching for scapegoats.
We are suffering very badly from: Islamic terrorism, from outside forces Naxalism North Eastern Insurgency. Now these forces with the help of local criminals politican and police are getting together to hurt as badly as they can. From 1992 riots a criminal like Dawood becomes idole for a generation. It also paves the way for other criminals to hurt India as badly as you can and flee from India.
They use Indian money to hurt India. They took ransom from one person and from that amount they kill 10-50 people.
As long as infrastructure will not destroyed all the talks are null and void.
India has been facing the offensive designs of Pakistan since Independence. The response of our country has forever ben weakkneed and inadequate. We have always looked over our shoulder for approval of the world commnity. Our politicians have involved themselves in nothing more than gimmicks, just imagind the prime ministt er of our country went to Pakistan in a bus. It is always we who have bent over backwards in appeasing our neighbours. Muslims have had the best facilities in this country and they do nothing but brew trouble for us. The majority of Muslims may be the finest citizens, but they do nothing to bring out the terrorist and anti national amongst themselves. Criminal gangs in the country are dominated by muslims, it is time that we practice a uniform civil code for all citizens. The country should stop all facilities to Pakistan, the peace process should be stopped, I suppose that we have to learn a lesson or two from Israel, our national interest is paramount to us and there can be no compromise on this issue.
RE:UNDECLARED WAR
by PK on Aug 02, 2006 11:04 PM Permalink
Hello Mr. Iqbal,
I agree with Nikita, if we will make anti-terror rules strict then only we can expect a sense of fear among those common man helping terrorists to make incidents like 7/11 a reality.
Please do remember that enemies of humanity are not from a specific religion... so saying that "majority will become minority" is senseless...
I believe following points need to be done immediately. Please make the rules strict . Hang the people who are suspected. At one point to time the fear in people's mind will help them to get up and look around ,whoever found suspicious, report it . Make the police be ready for each call comes from people. Don't allow people without tickets on railway stations. Make ticket-checking booths at each entrance and also provide limited entrances. Check ticket on each coach every day .
Things are not so simple, ur suggestion "to hang the suspects" shows how discriminent u r. Tell me, where u can't find terrorist these days? If government agrees on ur suggestion and say, implies on Gujrat. Then Majority community will become minority. U may be thinking I am being like childish. Yes I am, because law does not be made on the basis of emotion. It has to be on facts.
Only one thing I want to say, is that the guilty has to be charged with appropriate punishment, no matter from which community he/she belongs.
