If all muslim leaders assembled at seminar for National Economic Fouram for Muslims, are really serious about economic upliftment of Muslim community, they should have passed resolution on adoption of family planning by Muslims. It has been proved that financial condition of small families are better than large familes. By seeking only reservations and not serious about other duties to the nation,, situation would not improve and Muslim community will get backlash from other sectors of the society. Hence best way for Muslims, for economical developement, is to come out of religous social tradiations which might be good in past, adopt modern education and rather than becoming Vote Bank of so called secular parties, they should start merging with main stream. Reservations of Dalits have not improved situations of common Dalits and a special class within dalits have formed, which gets all benefits. Same thing could occured among Muslims.
Sonia's Sachar commission discovered poverty of Muslims. Muslim's current plight is due to the fact that they are poor even before they become Muslims. And once they become Muslims, Islam's oppressive and backward idealogy suppress any liberal, progressive voice, and retain the Muslim people poor, and whenever possible to worse. Women are discouraged to get educated, and no freedom either from the legal process. When women of a community is oppressed that community can never grow up. And as long as Muslims follow Islam they can never see a glint of light in their poverty. Being this the case, the Islamic leaders are asking for more cut not to improve their kinsmen's plight but to expand their power. Poverty is common in all the Indian communities, also the impoverishment of development. But, a poor hindu can become rich as his religion is liberal and progressive. Not with Islam. It is time Muslims understand that the cause lies squarely on their religion and the solution clearly lies in crossing over the mound of misery to the green pasture of liberal attitude and accepting the existence of pluralality.
RE:Sachar Findings - How ''Sach'' hai, ye Sachar?
by Indian muslim on Dec 17, 2006 02:07 PM Permalink
<<<<And once they become Muslims, Islam's .... Lets compare India with Malaysia, a muslim majority country, which has Shariat laws of justice... Both got independence at the same time, both have nearly the same natural resources... Why muslim majority Malaysia is now a developed country and hindu majority India's 70% population lives below Poverty line? Any answer? It is must for every muslim, either men or women, to get education. It is one of the main tenets of Islam. First know the facts before commenting on something. Any poor, hindu or muslim can become rich if the government and its policy makes a positive environment for development. If you think that only hindus can become rich, then why 50crore hindus are poor now? It is a responsibility of every indian to make not just muslims, but all indians developed economically. I'll just share a scenario here. Two brothers, one is much elder and and has half filled stomach, and other boy is very young and weak. If the food is there only for one person, then who should get the food? Weak and small boy or Elder and half-stomach filled boy? If your answer is not influenced by your hatred towards muslims,then you'll hv soltn
RE:Sachar Findings - How ''Sach'' hai, ye Sachar?
by Kaushik Das on Dec 19, 2006 12:13 AM Permalink
So, did independence give us crores and crores of money to invest? Because of muslims, we were partitioned and there also, our people were killed by yours and 55 crores were paid to muslims in pakistan. . Crores of rupees go towards protecting our country from muslims of the same pakistan (bloody wretched, ungrateful ones) and now even bangladesh (even more ungrateful ones). Malaysia does not have to spend so much money. . In Malaysia, the minority is a peaceful non-muslim one. In India, it is a violent, muslim one. THAT is the difference. Every now and then, there is a bomb blast in India - not so in Malaysia. Now, do you have any answers to this?
,.. if a mulsim girl loves non mulslim boy they will kill her GOI should kick out all illegal immigrants and stop religios conversition which is route casue of communal riots.
before blame hindu orgs secularism effect in india on hindus and muslims. ex kashmir mulsims enhoy life with ind tax payers money but joined hands with sepatatis and anti national forces. while kahsmiri hindus do not enjoy minority benefit whter muslim community enjoy in resto of india, are trrown out of their native land and living like refugees in camps in pathetic condition but they did not complain but most peace ful and patriotic while muslim in kahsmir helped kill their own brothrs,. enjoy all benefits and not ready to call them as indians or no respect for ind constitution, flag, army or democracy. all rich muslim/celebraties marry non muslim girls? How many netas, rich muslims help poor gudia, rubina, imrana or zahira??? ind required UCC, free education to all in cbse schools, and compuosory family planning and birth control
RE:meet debates sachar findings
by Lion on Dec 16, 2006 05:45 PM Permalink
"ind required UCC, free education to all in cbse schools, and compuosory family planning and birth control"
Rightly said! We should move forward for that.
Just implement and sustain SC/ST-OBC-OC model for all(religions) till they come to 1 level. The govt should look that every indian join the Indian mainstream nothing other BS.
sachar committee find out the differnece of no childrn in muslim an non muslim families. Muslims should respect other religion and allow non muslims to live . non muslims are afraid or not welcome in muslim dominated areas. Hindu girls/lades are harressed by muslim goodnas in market place, mulsim goonda s ,ake fund of hindu gods, rituals, stop hindus from going to vote, celebrate paki win in cricket match , hocky and pakistani missile tets etc.. find out how mosqes madrssa are sheltering isi agents, terrorists , illegal immigrants, used as store illegal arms and illega money transfering it is wrong to give more favours to muslim community under minority tag. poverty,iletracy, hunger and economic backwardness are ills of all community even brahmins families are facing such problems.no non muslims stopped muslims commnity to go for edu, business and job. muslim community needs to educated about cbse school and family planning and birth control. do not blame other for muslim gettoism. even educated muslim do not allow their ladies/ girls to mix with others b'cuz they will become haram or halal,..
Secularism is defined in India as everything anti-Hindu that benefits the non-Hindu at the Hindu's expense.muslim are already enjoying more funds, rights and space than any other community. Pakistan bangadesh is specaially created for muslims by muslims of msulims muslims are 29% of total population and cong commies are dancing to tunes of muslims leaders/netas to woo secon mejority muslimvotebank. increase haj subsidy, funds ot urdu school, universiteis, reservation/quota agaisnt sc decision, sachar report, minority commission, minority ministry, promote religious converstion for islamisation of india udner secualr tag... ON THE COST OF MEJORITY.. bomblast in varanasi, delhi, bombay, blr, imphala, is the work of ppl belongs to minority community and who helped paki terrorists to kill innoncent ppl, destroy the public property and attack temples. who is helpoing terrorists in JK for blood bath? IT is not RSS/ VHP / Bajranji but DEOBANDU, DEENDAR ANJUM, SIMI, JAMAT AL HIND,AMU, JMU ALMPLB, WAQF HAJ COMMITEE promote COMMITEE promoted the anti mejority sentiments and responsible for communal riots?? What about anti hindu Pakistani centric Friday sermosn?/
Upa is no1 of enemy of hindus and cong+ commies will do anything/everything for minority votebank. And sicliairsm changes its colour when it comes to hindu cause.pseudo media covers isllamisation/minotiry extermism under the tag of economic backwardness , freedom of expression, minority freedom social equality etc.. ASI and cbi are upa agents and many antinational in the guise of HRAs are working 24 hrs against hindus. Babri masjid and guj riot is over blown by media will repeat it again to provoke minorities against majority. It serves the power hungry politicians electro goals. media has been totally hijacked by either leftist traitors or anti-nationalistic elements
More than 125 temples were demolished in jJk and no media, govt, secular netas are not making any noise. babri masjid demolition is kept alive and b'cuz to provoke hatred against hindus vs non hindus. Under minority tag mulsim can do anything covered it by religion freedom of minorities no body questions that muslims grabbing land in prime locations in towns cities and as waqf borad property which goes as tax free. mullas and madrassa are paid by tax payers money while all hindu temples were looted by govt and if anything related hindu is projected as communal. sicliare politcians support muslim extermism for the sake of minority votes. babri masjid was built on temple and hindus have every right to build the temple on that site. muslims did not accept the court decesion on shabanooo case why they are fighting babri case?? muslim become indians when they want more funds, rights, special benefits while they become minorities when it get s national issues. muslim expects other communities to respect their sentiments, reiligion but why can't they do to other religion and community sentiments? ASI dig the site and found the monuments of temple but communists.
If hard earned money of tax payers should go to one particular community, why ppl will pay tax??? Ind need UCC and one edu and judicial system for every body, compulsory family planning and free edu till XII std in cbse schools and get rid of illegal immigrants. As per sachar report only 3% muslims goes to madrssa, and difference in literacy rate between muslims and national s is only 2% As per time TIME magazine survey Oct 2005 hindus are 60% and mulsim are 29% of total population and they are second majority and only parsies who migrated to India are mejority and parsis do not ask for any benefits.. UPA is giving SC/ST reservation benefit to muslims. Can GOI give reservation and funds to illegal immigrants from bangaldeshiess, Pakistan and tibitians who are minorities?/ What a sahme , 7 ml kahsmir pundits living like refugees in camps in their own country. Nobody talks about the butchery done pundits and their pathetic condition. Cong commes led upa is more communal, anti national, anti ppl and curse to India. UPA should be dismissed and Prsd rule with the help of army.
sachar report is garbage and it is prepared to fulfil congress and commes politicians calcaltions to woo the mulsim vote bank under economci backwafdenss tag. 70% muslims are already covered under quota and reservation, and they enjoy haj subsidy, tax free waqfproperty and madrssa, mosqes and mulla are paid by govt by tax payers money. UPA is destroying hindu soicety and promoting islamisationa and terrorism and naxalism congres is cheating poor and innocent illterate voter and playing with sentiments of ppl more special offer to muslim community will create more hatred, more fundamtalism in muslim and this is votebank politcs serves power hungrey congrress and commies. How many cong and comm. Netas or rich muslims/ dalit leaders help poor muslims or dalits?? If for example, 1 muslim is poor, there are 4 poor Hindus as per the population percentage. How can community which owns more 1lakh crore waqf property can be termed as poor and economiclally backward?? muslim extremism, googndagari, crimes covered under tag of minority freedom, economic backwardness etc Its discriminatory that only the one mulsim will get previleges and not the 4 Hindus???
