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Dalit Movements
by Amol Choudhary on Dec 06, 2006 06:03 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

Its really a pity to read in this article that " DALIT CHILDREN SAY LET THE DIRTY JOBS BE DONE BY THE BRAMHINS". Its a shame on the part of the coward dalits that they blame only bramhins for their plights. Can anyone show that the accused in Khairlangi killing are Bramhins. I am sure that they will be someone from the Maratha community or some other OBC community. But its for sure that they are not bramhins. But do the dalits ever dare to speak against the marathas??? Never!!! Nearly 80% of the Maharashtra Govt. ministers are Marathas. So how can these so called secularists be just onlookers when these dastardly acts were done??? dalits don't have guts to question these Marathas. Its not today, its since years together the Kshatriyas were the rulers. How come these oppressions continued during these Kshatriya rulers' reigms. Its mere cowardise. The fact remains that the dalit leaders have always remained pet dogs to the Congress and NCP rulers. Their agitations are never genuine.
Its time for the dalits to get themselves educated as the govt has already given so many freebees from the hard earned money of the Taxpayers. So get educated or else get thrown away.

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RE:Dalit Movements
by God and religion are distinct. on Mar 10, 2007 10:56 PM  Permalink
How many inter-caste or inter-religious marriages are there in your family?


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RE: Dalit movement is more intense
by Biswajit Ghoshal on Dec 06, 2006 05:45 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

This article has been written with a Dalit-biased approach and not with an independent approach. Some of the fallacies are as follows:
1. How does a higher-caste person get to know whether the person he is calling by 'oire' is a dalit or upper-caste? So anyone can call anyone by 'oire' irrespective of the caste of the caller or the called.
2. It seems that 'dalits' think that only dalits are doing 'lowly' jobs like helping the butcher. For their knowledge, upper-caste members too do all the lowly jobs for a living - including theft/adultery/betreyal/potty-cleaning/garbage-collection etc.
3. No where in Indian constitution is any job has been demarkated for high-castes/dalits. Anyone can develop his skills and seek job accordingly. Dalits themselves need to come out of their 'dalit'ness to see that the world indeed is fully an equal-opportunity place.

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RE:RE: Dalit movement is more intense
by God and religion are distinct. on Mar 10, 2007 10:57 PM  Permalink
Reservations are legislative (not judicial or society) response to historical social evils to certain sections of the society.
Government should scrap reservations when 85% of marriages in India are inter-caste or inter-religious.

maaparty@gmail.com


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Dalit movement ,who says???
by ajit pandey on Dec 06, 2006 05:42 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

Ms. Sheela,
"Dalit children are now saying 'I am not a small person'" ,they are definately not but why dalits SCs/STs still beg for reservations everywhere.
India is a country of appeasement,on the name of upliftment of one society ,they downgrade others.
India inc is moving not because of reservation ,bring reservation to private sector and India will become history.
regards,


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RE:Dalit movement ,who says???
by God and religion are distinct. on Mar 10, 2007 10:57 PM  Permalink
Reservations are legislative (not judicial or society) response to historical social evils to certain sections of the society.
Government should scrap reservations when 85% of marriages in India are inter-caste or inter-religious.

maaparty@gmail.com


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RE:Dalit movement ,who says???
by Mahen on Dec 06, 2006 07:25 PM  Permalink
They are fighting for their right:)

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RE:Dalit movement ,who says???
by dinesh on Dec 07, 2006 12:59 PM  Permalink
Hey,

Dalits are not begging reservation. They are asking for their rights. U people had taken off their fundamental rights, and u r taking benefit of reservation since 4000 yrs.

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They need educations
by Sam on Dec 06, 2006 05:41 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

i was watching some TV channel discussing the Dalit issues and i found that they (DALITS) consists of only 1% of total graduates.

Isn't it SAD..

DALIT leaders please Put more emphasis on education. Without education the benefits of reservation will not reach those who need it the most.

Only the Creamy layer will do the chatofy of the Cream...and the needy will keep watching helplessly stoning at busses and burning trains.. Making everybodys life miserable


Jago .. NETA LOG Jago.


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RE:They need educations
by Praveen on Dec 10, 2006 07:06 PM  Permalink
Hi,

Your message is good.
But i want to ask you a question.
Are you spreading "Buddhism"

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Look within
by Sudipt Barat on Dec 06, 2006 05:32 PM  Permalink 

Just by taking out morchas and burning trains and asking for more and more reservations , the Dalits are not going to progress. As someone who does not believe in caste and wants equality and justice for all, it is time the Dalit youth look at problems within their community, Alcoholism,the status of women, large families, illiteracy , these are the major problems they have. the reservations have benefitted only thhe creamy vocal layer of the Dalits, the real poor amongst them have remained poor even after 60 years of independence. The dalit leaders have vested inerests, what have they done for their own people. Sahu Maharaj, Mahatma Gandhi, were not Dalits but they did more for them. The politics of confrontation does not work in the 21 st century. Buddha was a person of peace. He advocated non violence. It is time the Dalit youth searched for the BUDDHA within themselves.
Buddham saranam gachyami
Dhammam saranam gachyami
Sangham saranam gachyami

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Gud going...
by Attri on Dec 06, 2006 05:23 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

Gud going.. now days of hindutav n brahminism r no more soon...
come forward friends and remove casteism n discrimination of any kind....


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RE:Gud going...
by Praveen on Dec 10, 2006 07:04 PM  Permalink
Hi,

Yes ,I accept that " I am worried because of the Dalit Movement". But not because Dalits will become economically powerful , but because i can see a whole range of religions trying to convert them and change the flavour of our country. I am worried by seeing that Buddhist community is searching for a dalit leader so that they can convert others easily as they did it to Mayawati. Guys because of our fighting the loser is going to be "Hinduism".It is time we unite. Let our brothers come up in the society.

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RE:Gud going...
by God and religion are distinct. on Mar 10, 2007 10:58 PM  Permalink
Reservations are legislative (not judicial or society) response to historical social evils to certain sections of the society.
Government should scrap reservations when 85% of marriages in India are inter-caste or inter-religious.

maaparty@gmail.com


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Dalits ?
by Minian Palaniappan on Dec 06, 2006 05:15 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

"The Dalit movement is much more intense and dangerous now"- So the Non Dalits of India are worried ?

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RE:Dalits ?
by mahendra on Dec 08, 2006 05:56 PM  Permalink
I can bet u ... Where u work .... there are 20 % dalits and u dont know that .... even higher caste people are involve in riots band etc ... and something wors then this

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RE:Dalits ?
by HP on Dec 07, 2006 11:27 PM  Permalink
Dalits who are forced to stay on the outskirts of village are not the ones who disrupt a normal man's life. And dalit's who disrupt daily life are not helping the dalit's in village. So where is the good cause ? Where is the noble action ? Dalits have been given an opportunity to educate, look where they use it - In hooliganism

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Is a Dalit a real person or a tool to gain political mileage?
by Indian on Dec 06, 2006 05:14 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

My due respects to Dr Babasaheb Ambedkar. I idolize him and respect him for the social cause that he undertook for the downtrodden in his time. He did a great job but what are the Dalit leaders trying to achieve today? The hooliganism that took place in Kanpur disturbed the whole of Maharashtra. What rights do the so called Dalit leaders have to disturb a common man. Protests should have been peaceful. Why burn trains and throw stones? What does a Dalit in modern India not have today?. He is equivalent to any Brahmin and in fact more priviledged, thanks to the reservations. If a Dalit is troubled by landlords in Villages, then so are the poor brahmins. The Author accepts that the Dalits have become more literate and more tech and internet savvy. Do they realize who gave them the opportunity? It is these very upper caste people and leaders who realized their mistakes and let them have equal rights. Just turn around and take a look at our neighbour Sri Lanka. Tamils were not allowed to get educated by the upper caste Sinhalese and result was a civil war. Even today the majority of Tamils in Sri Lanka don't know what a computer is whereas a Dalit can access the internet and write Blog

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RE:Is a Dalit a real person or a tool to gain political mileage?
by God and religion are distinct. on Mar 10, 2007 10:59 PM  Permalink
Reservations are legislative (not judicial or society) response to historical social evils to certain sections of the society.
Government should scrap reservations when 85% of marriages in India are inter-caste or inter-religious.

maaparty@gmail.com


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RE:Is a Dalit a real person or a tool to gain political mileage?
by Anuj on Dec 07, 2006 10:48 AM  Permalink
Step out of your home Indian. Go to the villages...have a look. Even today dalits are forced to live on the outskirts of a village, they cannot even share water from the common village well. Just because some of them have done well to reach the blogosphere does not mean...hey now we are equals.

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