Stop bugging people. It is hightime we accept our mistakes. Dalits are our own people , we have to accept the mistakes we have done against them for centuries. Not even 5% of the dalits are getting good education even they have more reservations . If we dont act fast, the Buddhists in India who were dormant in India are utilizing this opportunity to give a final blow to Hinduism which is alreay shaken because of Islam and Christianity.
RE:Dalit Movement - mistake of Hinuism
by God and religion are distinct. on Mar 10, 2007 10:48 PM Permalink
Reservations are legislative (not judicial or society) response to historical social evils to certain sections of the society. Government should scrap reservations when 85% of marriages in India are inter-caste or inter-religious.
In the whole population of India Brahmins are a minority-they lived poor historically-they never had reservations as one of learned writers is mentioning. Brahmins are the ones who kept the history-there is no Brahmin God figure we pray to. I condemn any discrimination with heart and soul. The demand of the Dalits (who want to say and be called Dalits for ever because of privileges they enjoy) is not just give them all the privileges that no community ever had any time in human history, but they want others constantly punished and reduced to cinders. Once I heard Jaggivan Ram saying "I want to see Brahmins pulling Rikshwas"-For me I do not want any one pulling Rikhwas. Do they want vengence and destruction or will they ever use their up-lifting for 5 generations till now for the up-lifting of whole of India? They burnt Deccan queen because some Brahmins traveled in it-what kind of nonsense its that? Let blacks burn busses because whites traveled in USA-they will never see light again. Blacks do not have reservations in USA for your information. Purpose of attempts to uplift is for them to become the teachers and honorable citizens-what honor is there in burning and hating?
RE:Why do they attack brahmins?
by God and religion are distinct. on Mar 10, 2007 06:50 PM Permalink
Reservations are legislative (not judicial or society) response to historical social evils to certain sections of the society. Government should scrap reservations when 85% of marriages in India are inter-caste or inter-religious.
Re: Why do they attack brahmins?
by solution on Jul 19, 2010 03:04 PM Permalink
TN is the only state that given / giving equal status to Dalits. Father and Mother of Reservation was TAMIL NADU. We love our Dalit brothers as we do others.
RE:RE:RE:Why do they attack brahmins?
by on Sep 10, 2007 11:05 PM Permalink
Dear Sir, Ur allegation that Dalits want to be known as Dalits to enjoy privileges, if taken to be true will apply to a very small portion of the entire population of Dalits in India. It is probably true that some members of the scheduled castes get reservations even if they dont need it. By that i mean that they have enough economical and environmental opurtunities to not need reservations.But that highlights the plight of the rest even more so,who are still living in penury and under exploitation.They are being denied reservations which they need by the \'creamy layer\' within them which dont. Majority of the Dalits live in rural India where they are mostly landless labourers.Do you not believe reports like the Khairlanji killings?They have been historically exploited against and are still subjected to terrible cruelty.True,ideally Brahmins were supposed to believe in simple living,hence your reference to their poor living.But in India social dignity has never been related to economic conditions.Poor or not,Brahmins have always enjoyed respect while they have propagated discrimination.By Brahmins i certainly dont mean individuals i mean the community in general.So of course i dont support that they shd be made to pull rikshas.Similarly if some dalits choose to show their indignation by burning,u cant denounce all of them.And lastly pls dont fool urself,no Brahmin lives in voluntary poverty today, none of their ancient ideals remain,while cruelty to dalits does.
It is ironically that the mentality of majority of upper is still biased and arrogant toward lower caste people. No matter how much gruesome incident took place, these people never bother to write few sympathatic words or lines in comment while these people are very keen to write against whenever dalits started protesting over such incidents. Is there any justification for this? The most concerned issue for them is reservation no matter these people are very eagerly waiting same kind of favour in name of ethnic diversity in USA. One facts I would like to bring to notice to these people that there are a number of dalits working in USA in different fields and they believe in their brain and hardwork. This is also known to them there will be no castist favour and they will be treated as per other indians.
So upper caste people need to change their mentality toward lower caste. They are equally talented if equal enivironment and opportunies are given to them.
There must be serious attempt to set us on the path of reconciliation. You must face what is bad and use it to consider what is wrong. Gandhi once said"India has much to learn from the heroes of the abolition of slavery for we have slavery based upon supposed religious sanction and more poisonous than its Western fellow." He compared the abolition of slavery with the abolition of untouchability. (CW, Vol 56, pp 88-90)
Who are the dalits. The so called lower class are nothing but a part of the hindus. Its over time that these were diveded by the politicians then. And the same is being done by our present i.e. Mayawati, Mulayam and Lalu. Its a game there playing with lives which is dangerous. They insite them to kill and cause damage. For what in someting that no one believes in any more.
RE:What dalit
by God and religion are distinct. on Mar 10, 2007 10:49 PM Permalink
Reservations are legislative (not judicial or society) response to historical social evils to certain sections of the society. Government should scrap reservations when 85% of marriages in India are inter-caste or inter-religious.
RE:shame on you
by God and religion are distinct. on Mar 10, 2007 10:50 PM Permalink
Reservations are legislative (not judicial or society) response to historical social evils to certain sections of the society. Government should scrap reservations when 85% of marriages in India are inter-caste or inter-religious.
The Dalits who are forced to stay on the outskirts of the village did nto indulge in the violence. The Dalits who indulged in the violence did were educated from the benefits that general Indian society gives them. And guess how they use their newfound freedom and knowledge - to display hooliganism, to disrupt the lives of normal hardworking citizens !!
RE:How did dalits use their empowerment ? HOOLIGANISM
by God and religion are distinct. on Mar 10, 2007 10:50 PM Permalink
Reservations are legislative (not judicial or society) response to historical social evils to certain sections of the society. Government should scrap reservations when 85% of marriages in India are inter-caste or inter-religious.
