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What VANDE MATARAM means to me
by SDPS on Sep 03, 2006 03:13 AM  Permalink 

Dear Editor,
(continued from earlier) and achievemants in all
branches of knowledge --- scientific, economic, philosophical or spiritual -- to a very high standard.All the greatest thinkers of he world --saints and savants, scientists, historians, spiritual thinkers, writers and all have paid unstinted admiration for the excellent acievements of India in all fields. TO QUOTE A FEW -- MAX MULLER, ALBERT EINSTEIN,VICTOR COUSIN,JULIAN HUXLEY,MONIER WILLIAMS,
E. W. HOPKINS,WILL DURANT,MARK TWAIN and many more.
What all they said canot be contained in this short scope.
The moot pointis that should not our young generations , and in fact all citizens,be infused with this spirit of love for this glorious motherland of ours to uphold its unique and wonderful civilisa -tion ? Why instead, of promoting such patriotic fervour, deliberate politics are being persued to create a permanent rift between the different communities by payfully allowing them to disrespect the mandatory orders of such national interest?
GOING BYTHE ISLAMIC TRADITIONS,H U S S A I N,the grandson of the prophet, after salutingeveryone HAD SALUTED THE CITY OF M E D I N A, his motherland.
Therefore (continued)

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What VANDE MATARAM means to me
by SDPS on Sep 03, 2006 02:43 AM  Permalink 

Dear Editor,
(continued from earlier) and fruits and your verdant expanses are greeted by sweet breezes. We bow down to
thee Oh! Mother!. Your nights are beautiful with the bright and soothing radiance of the moon.Your trees are always dressed up by blossoming flowers, all these make you smile sweetly and communicate to us suavely.You are our pleasant and benevolent mother.We bow down to thee Oh!Mother!"
All these paens are nothing but to express the heart- iest regard and Love for Mother India, which hasbeen made glorious by the bounties of nature.The patriotic ardour of the song electrified the singers and forged them into a unity for marching ahead for breaking the shackles,which kept our motherland bound to the foreign domination.
What objectionable words are there in these stanzas
conveying simple expressions of love for the mother- land,which sustains and nourishes us? Unless the mind is extremely bigoted,and cherishes abnormal hatred for mother,can there be any objection to utter these words ?
It is our extreme good fortune that we are born in a country which is widely acclaimed over the entire world for its wonderful culture and traditions, and (contd )

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What VANDE MATARAM means to me
by SDPS on Sep 03, 2006 02:13 AM  Permalink 

Dear Editor,
The fire-brand song "VANDE MATARAM"compo-sed by Bankim Chandra Chattopadyay,had inspired thousands of young Indians who sacrificed their lives
for freeing the motherland from the trammels of the British raj and their inhuman oppression.It had acquired great importance in coursing through that historical tradition.Even the Indian Congress Party had adopted as its war-cry the slogan of 'Vande Mataram',and in pre-independence period in almost all the political meetings and rallies,the singing of the'Vande Mataram'was quite a regular feature.
After independence,during the deliberations regard- ing the selection of the national anthem,some interested persons raised points regarding 'Vande Mataram',as,they held,it personified MotherIndia as Mother Durga.Butduring the long discussion that followed in thr Constituent Assembly all those points were clarified,ultimately along with 'Janaganamana
adhinayaka', the first two stanzas of the song 'Vande Mataram'were accorded the honour of the national anthem and the national song.
It means -'We bow down to thee Oh! Mother!you bless us with abundance of water,food grains,luxuriant foilages and fruits and (continued)

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vande mataram and concept of god
by samit roy on Sep 03, 2006 01:35 AM  Permalink  | Hide replies

muslims in mumbai participate in ganesh arti. now as u all know ganesh puja is idol worship then why muslims participate in it? why there is no fatwa against muslims doing ganesh arti? is it public relation management by muslims to show brotherhood with hindus. anyway idol worship is no sin. muslims beleive that its sin to ascribe partner to god. anyway idols, images are nothing but creative artistic metaphoric expression to symbolise the divine absolute truth which is a metaphyscial in nature. muslims pray facing kabba of mecca. kabba is just a stone. muslims pray at grave yard. are these not idol worship. even allaha used partner to reveal koran to muhammad. angel gabriel was allaha's partner to reveal koran to muhammad. so whats wrong in singing vande mataram in praise of motherland.? nothing wrong in it.the problem is not with vande mataram but the problem lies in islamic fundamnetal concpet of god which is more fascist in nature than giving freedom of expression to realise that divine absolute truth or god.

there is no god but absolute truth (OM), lord krishna is the one and only messenger of that absolute truth (OM) and bhagavad gita is the world's only universal holy book

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RE:vande mataram and concept of god
by Asif I Merchant on Sep 05, 2006 12:52 PM  Permalink
I have nothing against Mr. Krishna. But like u asked questions, I too have have some about him. How do u praise a person who like to tease girls, which is morally bad, who use to their clothes from the river bed while they were taking bath. These are not my words, for ur info. Just tell me whether they are true or not. Besides, u said he is a messenger, I think he might, but some of the attributes are not suitable for a messenger from god, which I mentioned above. Quran, says there were more that 125000 messengers sent on the face of the earth, to all the nations & tribes. But only few are mentioned by name. I am not denying the possibilty, but I can't accept either, that Ram, Buddha, and many other spiritual personalities, may be the messengers from Allah. I choose not to say against them.

India has a history of Hero worshipping, not late, but recently I have seen on TV, that some group has built a temple & worshipping to Mr. Amitabh Bachchan.
May be after few centuries, he will also be called as one among god and get approval among the other belivers of idol worshippers.
I can only warn you to come on straight path, worship only one, u call him by any name, but not a form.

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RE:vande mataram and concept of god
by Asif I Merchant on Sep 05, 2006 12:25 PM  Permalink
Dear Samit, I would love to clear your misconceptions. First of all 'Fatwa', what is it? if u are in a situation where u don't know what to do, u will consult to an expert, who can advise you on that matter. They u will act accordingly. When the expert of experts revealed us that Idol worshipping is sin, then we don't need anybody else's advise. If u go against what u have been told, then get ready to face the consequences, which ofcourse not necessarily in this world, but sure in hereafter.

Regarding facing Kaaba while praying, it is only a point on the earth where all muslims face while praying, giving the sense on unity. But rest assure that we don't worship kaaba. We can even climb on kaaba, which means we can stand on kaaba, will u stand on the idol u worship? I guess Not, because u think that is god. If u set ur foot on that Idol, u think u will get punished. where as in case of Kaaba, we sure we aren't. Abt graves, we supplicate for the dead, u are mistaken abt praying for supplication. We even do not bow at the Prophets grave, we just supplicate(Darood).

Where as the angel is concerned, he is also created by Allah, created(messengers)cannot become a partner of creator

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Vande Matram is a symbol of National Unity
by PANDIT MUSTAFA ARIF on Sep 02, 2006 06:07 PM  Permalink 

There are many country in the world where religion is a matter of ones own faith while culture and nation is a matter which got unanimity among all citizen of the country. Similarly like SARE JEHAN SE ACHCHA HINDOSTAN HAMARA, Vand Matram enjoys the same unanimity among all citizen of India since freedom struggle. Apart of religion every India use to sing it proudly, but when BJP and RSS's so-called culturel outfits polluted this National Pride by saying BHARAT MAIN YADI REHNA HAI to Vande Matram kehna hoga, thus male intention of these organisations have made this national pride unnecessary contoversial, before this slogan's existance no-body raised any question about this national pride. Before Ram Janam Bhumi Andolan, in many area after country Hindu & Mulsim used to exchange their wishes by saying JAI-RAMJI KI like NAMASTE. Communal thinking about this exchange never came in anybody's mind, but like communlising Lord Ram the above outfits communilised feeling of Harmony too. This year on Ganesh Chaturthi I have composed a A ABHUTPURVA GANPATI BAPPA AARRTI,so to remove hatred let us start saying Jai Ramji ki and start singing Vande Matram & to respect each other let say AADAAB.

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my message
by ajay on Sep 02, 2006 11:48 AM  Permalink 

vande mataram,who all cannot sing this are bad patch to india whether it is bhukhari.these idiot must know that these song are apart from religious belief.singing national song only shows the spirit of being INDIAN.if u cannot sing national song then leave this country and go any hell place,boz only at this place u find sujal and sufal.

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