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'Left opposing nuke deal due to allergy towards US'
by Pappu Nuni on Jul 15, 2008 06:12 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

The Indo-US nuclear deal figured in the Tamil Nadu Assembly on Thursday with the Congress alleging that the Left parties are opposing it because of "their allergy towards the US". Congress member M K Vishnu Prasad, while discussing grants to the electricity department, said that though there was now a hue and cry over the nuclear deal, "even those opposed to it will accept it one day as a necessity." "The deal will greatly help in transfer of technology in the future. But the Left is opposed to the project only because it has an allergy towards the US," he charged.
He also said it was an agreement drafted with future requirements in mind by the Congress-led UPA government, considering the possible manifold increase in demand for power in the coming years.

D Sudarshanam, Leader of the Congress Legislature Party, joined Prasad in taking on the Left parties when he said that even the Communist-ruled China had a nuclear deal with the US. At this point, Rajasekaran (CPI) intervened and said that the deal would not be useful to India in any way. CPI(M) member John Joseph later said that even the common man was aware why the Left was opposed to the deal.

"We are opposed to it as the US is imposing conditions detrimental to India's sovereignty and self-reliance. However the US did not impose such conditions while inking the pact with China," he said without naming the conditions.


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RE:'Left opposing nuke deal due to allergy towards US'
by Ram Kutty on Jul 15, 2008 07:08 PM  Permalink
Dear Pappu, You know how much knoweledge the so called national leaders (Karat, Bardhan etc) of left has, then you can't expect anything more than this from their state leaders. Shameless Left! I just wonder how openly they are working for a rougue country like china.

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Seems good for the time being
by Micheal on Jul 15, 2008 05:34 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

It seems that the deal is O.K at the moment since there is a requirement for Uranium. Since the U.S and India are democratic nations and the relationship is based on well being and freedom of the people of the two nations, it is good. The U.S administration was always hostile to India until now. There seem to be a change in their attitude which is good for India-U.S relationship. If any issue is created by any irresponsible U.S administration then, there is the option to withdraw from the deal.

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Seems good for the time being
by Micheal on Jul 15, 2008 05:34 PM  Permalink 

It seems that the deal is O.K at the moment since there is a requirement for Uranium. Since the U.S and India are democratic nations and the relationship is based on well being and freedom of the people of the two nations, it is good. The U.S administration was always hostile to India until now. There seem to be a change in their attitude which is good for India-U.S relationship. If any issue is created by any irresponsible U.S administration then, there is the option to withdraw from the deal.

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truth is the factor
by Tura on Jul 15, 2008 05:31 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

How entire political parties are wasting their energy to catch up the support from Ambani brothers. Both have interest with their business not with politicians. I already told in this column that 28 state chief Ministers – out of 20 state CMs are pocket of ambanis, which is known factor and nobody, could deny. Even IB and Intelligence top officials are their pockets. IN fact he is paying money during the election unfortunately our election commission eyes are blind and Income Tax officials are also blind because they are getting their respective shares after the election and IT people are getting their bone as and when they required. How we think that this congress party will take care for ‘Aam Adami’. All are thinking we are idiots. We have to understand. I already told that Finance Minster long back told media if both the brothers fight then Indian economy would effect. Let me tell one finance Minister should tell like this. What is the use of FM when he is not able act according to our people condition let them resign the post sit their house. Why they are cheating? What amar singh raised the voice against mukesh why not he was not brought to notice to government of india. When is not getting their share from mukesh ambani he started quarreling. Basically Amar singh is a broker of India. He will sole anything for money which mean you people will understand. Even he is creating so many problems with Sahara & Co. but sahara is close to mukesh he is able to re

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RE:truth is the factor
by Think Pad on Jul 15, 2008 06:17 PM  Permalink
Every body knows it very well that Manmohan Singh was the CIA mole in the Primw Ministers Office (PMO) during PV Narasimha Rao's Government. he is trying to achieve the final goal of capping the Indigenous Nuclear program of India, on behalf of USA and other Anti India forces, trying to tie India permanently to NPT indirectly. MMS knows very well that his time is up and after next election, he is history, since Congress has not even bothered to project him as PM.

He is trying to achieve that Goal he is assigned by his masters, put a cap on Indias indigenous nuclear program permanently, by what ever means. he knows, it is not possible, once this government goes out and he will be just forgotten.

In India, both Leftists and NDA should come together, they both have sincere policies for future of India and the billion masses. If they bury the outdated junk of secularism and communalism slogans, which has no meaning in a modern 21-st century society, they can make a strong coalition to rule India, for a long time, bringing long standing stability and prosperity.

Think Pad

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RE:truth is the factor
by abarna banerjee on Jul 15, 2008 06:43 PM  Permalink
Don't waste your time on thinking & discussing N-Deal. Those days are long gone - when "there was a India"- The country we have now is CIA's play ground -This "demo"politicians paid by CIA - so ultimately things will happen as CIA wants it to happen. Don't waste your time & energy for a lost cause.

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RE:truth is the factor
by abarna banerjee on Jul 15, 2008 06:46 PM  Permalink
Don't waste your time on thinking & discussing N-Deal. Those days are long gone - when "there was an India"- The country we have now is CIA's play ground -This "demo” politicians paid by CIA. They are saying what CIA makes them to - so ultimately things will happen as CIA wants it to happen. Don't waste your time & energy for a lost cause.

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RE:truth is the factor
by ajay singh on Jul 15, 2008 05:44 PM  Permalink
u r right DHIRUBHAI AMBANI is known to toppple the morarji desai government in 1977. READ THE BOOK--- THE POLYESTER PRINCE- THE RISE OF DHIRUBHAI AMBANI. AMBANIS are dangerous for indian government

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Issue
by K Cheema on Jul 15, 2008 05:25 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

I have not read much on this topic but still i'wanna right something

see we are a booming nation (till present) and our energy requirement are going to increase day by day. so sourcing sufficient energy is the basic subject. now when we go for a deal their is something that we need to pay and their is something that we gain. same is this case. I agree that this deal will have some negative holes but benefits should also be considered. National securiety cannot be compromised but I think that we are not dependent on our nuclear weapons. I am sure India will use it only if it is having no other option and that too if seriously required.

I am not favoring for or opposing any deal but i request all the fronts to consider all the points which in this respect and then take any decision.

People handling the issue knows better. They will tell us only a clause which will help us to understand their point and oppose other. whatsoever but for the general public the whole issue will always remain a question mark. so mine is only an advise.

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RE:Issue
by Dipankar Dutta on Jul 15, 2008 05:35 PM  Permalink
You are right ... We the general public are not in the best position to judge the good or bad effects of the deal ... but being an Indian we would love to see our country grows independently ... without too much depending on or aligning with another country .. what do you say ?

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Why so hurry?
by Dipankar Dutta on Jul 15, 2008 05:14 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

One thing is really consufing .. what was the urgent need to go against a friendly nation like IRAN and vote against it in IAEA when there is no danger for india if IRAN develops its neuclear technologies ... then what was the necessity to expose India's neuclear facilities (no matter civil or defence) to the UN (read US) watchdog IAEA for inspection? And now what is so much need to go for a nuke-deal with US when India's friend in need Russia is there to provide all help to India? Is all that not indicate that India is too much aligning with US without any reason ?

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RE:RE:Why so hurry?
by Surender Sharma on Jul 15, 2008 05:21 PM  Permalink
I understand that Russia has given his go ahead for this deal.

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RE:Why so hurry?
by Dipankar Dutta on Jul 15, 2008 05:25 PM  Permalink
Can one believe US ? What if US send IAEA Inspectors to inspect all indian nuclear facilities and take back all vital inputs ?

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RE:RE:Why so hurry?
by sweeto t on Jul 15, 2008 07:39 PM  Permalink
What is the vital inputs that India has dear which US doesn't have till now??

How far we India can go scientifically on a standalone basis???

Every bit of innovations that we do here is basically the transfer of skill and knowledge that Indians take from there. And then they come here and do a startup and bingo it went hit. Right thats what we do here.



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RE:Why so hurry?
by sweeto t on Jul 15, 2008 07:37 PM  Permalink
Do not forget Dipankar that our countries economy saw an accelaration at the start of 2000. This is primarily due to the jobs that US agreed to outsource to India and China.

So as there is bilateral agreement, each beneficiary country read (India and China) will have to give back to the provider country. (read US)

It's a common knowledge that there is a huge cry for outsourcing to the countries like India and china in US, especially when US is facing a recession and then ppl are loosing the jobs.

If Dipankar if that situation is there in India, and then we continuosly outsource the jobs of our ppl to a third world country, do you think ppl like you and the political parites will not protest it?

So here US is been succesful in controling that situation there, and continously flowing the jobs to India and China.

Now thats what a deal is.

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Sarkari Scientist
by fun guy on Jul 15, 2008 05:09 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

Suppose if some one develop some technology, he has to continuously do research and upgrade the technology otherwise it will become obsolete. Instead one can get technology from others. In this case no need to worry about the R&D. but only thing is the buyer has to buy another new technology or upgrade from the same supplier if the operation viability is lost.
The same rule is applicable to the Indian Sarkari scientist.
They are not fit for R&D. they are always interested in monthly salaries and pension. No accountability too.
Why should they favor for developing technology handling head breaking problems and by spending sleepless nights.
It is better to favor for buying technology from others and operating it. so peacefully work 10-4 for 5 days and rest enjoying life.
The main reason may be the government. The government don't have vigorous technology development policies.
Who is to blame?


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RE:RE:Sarkari Scientist
by raja e on Jul 15, 2008 05:41 PM  Permalink
India has plenty of Thorium reserves in the form of beach sands. We dont have sufficinet Uranium reserve, our uranium are low grade. if we bult uranium based reactor we have to depend upon neuclear fuel from US or other contry. They are not going to give at free of cost. Sarkai scientist are developing thorium based reactor (fast breeding reactor) one such protype has been constructed in kalpakam, Tamil nadu. Near feature, we can also develop thorium based nuclear fuel and export to other contries. Sarkari scientists are doing good job for 8000 Rs basic salery.
-sarkari scientist.

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RE:Sarkari Scientist
by mani sekaran on Jul 15, 2008 09:19 PM  Permalink
Atleast if you spend those 11 lakh crore i am sure you can devolop any technology.
Who said we are not capabale?

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RE:Sarkari Scientist
by Think Pad on Jul 15, 2008 06:18 PM  Permalink
Every body knows it very well that Manmohan Singh was the CIA mole in the Primw Ministers Office (PMO) during PV Narasimha Rao's Government. he is trying to achieve the final goal of capping the Indigenous Nuclear program of India, on behalf of USA and other Anti India forces, trying to tie India permanently to NPT indirectly. MMS knows very well that his time is up and after next election, he is history, since Congress has not even bothered to project him as PM.

He is trying to achieve that Goal he is assigned by his masters, put a cap on Indias indigenous nuclear program permanently, by what ever means. he knows, it is not possible, once this government goes out and he will be just forgotten.

In India, both Leftists and NDA should come together, they both have sincere policies for future of India and the billion masses. If they bury the outdated junk of secularism and communalism slogans, which has no meaning in a modern 21-st century society, they can make a strong coalition to rule India, for a long time, bringing long standing stability and prosperity.

Think Pad

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