What will be the cost for per unit of energy? Why we are not tring for a ecnomical alternative for energy shortage? Why Cant we develop our own nuclear plants based on thorium which is plenty in india? Is it possible develop our own technology for nuclear energy? (According to this deal testing is not prohibited but US president have right to rethink regarding this deal) If US (president) cancelled this deal then whose is responsible for disposing the nuclear waste? If Nuclear Suppllers Group denies us to supply the fuel then wat will we do? As long as our neighbour contries are not signed in Comprehensive Test Ban Treaty (CTBT) what we can do for our security? Is there any clarification we got regarding the reusing of the fuel?
RE:My Doubt Regarding 123 agreement
by Hate Who divides on Jul 03, 2008 07:42 PM Permalink
1)expected 10 rs as currently it is 6.85 2)becoz we can invest in wind energy along sea cost that can produce enough energy and hydo in Norteast but govt want to go for Nuclear to fill their swiss pocket 3)It is already designed but practically not possible coz of transuranic Plutonium is needed for efficent use of Thorium 4)dont know 5)100 Billion$ will be waste 6)No need to think about it CTBT ..we wont be signing it ......as far as neighbour is oncerned they have enough one esp. China so we cant sign CTBT 7) No Idea
RE:My Doubt Regarding 123 agreement
by Hate Who divides on Jul 03, 2008 07:42 PM Permalink
1)expected 10 rs as currently it is 6.85 2)becoz we can invest in wind energy along sea cost that can produce enough energy and hydo in Norteast but govt want to go for Nuclear to fill their swiss pocket 3)It is already designed but practically not possible coz of transuranic Plutonium is needed for efficent use of Thorium 4)dont know 5)100 Billion$ will be waste 6)No need to think about it CTBT ..we wont be signing it ......as far as neighbour is oncerned they have enough one esp. China so we cant sign CTBT 7) No Idea
when any photo of reognized person published with looter, dakait or terrorist then image of such person hit worst same with pernab da. you are respected person of our country if your photo published with leader of red terrorist or anti indian then your creditablity would be questioned. please alert next time
RE:mukherji with sitting near red terrorist
by Ram Sharma on Jul 03, 2008 04:56 PM Permalink
They r partners for 4 yrs. When did left suddenly become 'red terrorisr' and 'anti indian'?
RE:mukherji with sitting near red terrorist
by Shyam on Jul 03, 2008 04:47 PM Permalink
You are mistaken. Nobody in Congress camp can be termed respectable. Inspite of this, if you respect, it is your problem. How do you expect any congressman to be otherwise?
RE:mukherji with sitting near red terrorist
by Manija Irani on Jul 03, 2008 04:58 PM Permalink
You have shown and made it amply clear albeit through your rotten and broken English that you are a sycophant of that communal Congress party which will go to any extent to exploit India and its resources. All Congress leaders are corrupt and usurpers and it is a shame that they appear along side Left leaders who are respectable, honest, sincere, hardworking and one who think logically and in interest of India and not like corrupt congress leaders who think only of making money by hook or by crook.
Knickerwallahs point out that 1-2-3 Agreement is over-ridden by the Hyde Act. For one thing, an international treaty over-rides national laws. Even for argument sake the reverse holds true, what does the 1-2-3 Agreement say:
Article 2, Para 1 of the 123 agreement text released on August 3, 2007 clearly states:
"The Parties shall cooperate in the use of nuclear energy for peaceful purposes in accordance with the provisions of this Agreement. Each Party shall implement this Agreement "in accordance with its respective applicable treaties, national laws," regulations, and license requirements concerning the use of nuclear energy for peaceful purposes."
So there is no mention of Hyde Act specifically. Only indirectly through "national laws". But this mention of "national laws" is mutual. This means if Hyde Act is a domestic law of the US, we can have a law exactly reverse of the Hyde Act. In a dispute, we are bound by our national laws while the US is to theirs creating a gridlock.
So the argument of Hyde Act is only a bogey used by commies and Knickerwallahs to confuse the public
RE:RE:Hyde Act is a Mere Bogey
by jas on Jul 03, 2008 04:55 PM Permalink
and the daadiwallas want to oppose the deal because they are dead against anything American but hypocrites want all the technological excellence of America and Israel.
Again if the nuclear deal was for making bombs, daadiwallas would have gladly welcomed it so that they can rob the technology using a daadiwalla and then use it against innocents.
RE:Hyde Act is a Mere Bogey
by Ram Sharma on Jul 03, 2008 05:10 PM Permalink
Once Pranab had said that Hyde act will not b applicable. After that there was statement of an American saying that Hyde act will b applicable. UPA is not telling the truth and sharing all points with Left or BJP.
RE:Hyde Act is a Mere Bogey
by desh joshi on Jul 03, 2008 04:38 PM Permalink
how can you forget the dadiwalas (L/2 s) who will not vote for congress just coz they think US is anti relegion (their) and India should not have nay ties with US.
RE:Hyde Act is a Mere Bogey
by jas on Jul 03, 2008 04:56 PM Permalink
and the daadiwallas want to oppose the deal because they are dead against anything American but want all the technological excellence of America and Israel.
Again if the nuclear deal was for making bombs, daadiwallas would have gladly welcomed it so that they can rob the technology using a daadiwalla and then use it against innocents.
How can the Commies humiliate Congress. Everybody knows that, the Commies behaved like a Dog. Since the inception of UPA Government, the Communists Dogs were saying,they will not only bark but will bite, Scratch and Crawl. Dogs can't humiliate their masters.
Not only this, our PM Challenged the Commies to withdraw the support. After this challange only all the Hell Broke out. I think , the first victim was CPI old man Bardan.
I hate to see these commies. None of them have a pleasing personality.
These Commies are shameless. Why they don't pull the plug? They still don't know that, the UPA is going ahead with the NUclear deal?
"Ab Chootheye ke mafik deke kadehe Comies.
Sale,dhamke detahi " Don't Proceed Further". They threatened SP. If you support Congres, no talk with you for 'Third Front" Uske bad bolla, we will join with the BJP in the non confidence motion.
Ab Comies Chup Ho Gaya.
On acount of this Nuclear Deal ,the Left Humiliated themselves.
RE:Left Wants to Humiliate Congress
by farroukh irani on Jul 03, 2008 05:03 PM Permalink
The Congress led by PM Manmohan Singh and the Gandhis are dogs and worse and the communists are respectable people who won't fall to any level like the Gandhi's and the PM to go and clean USA President Bush's shoes if they can make money out of it. Remember Bofors. The Gandhis are bigggest CHORS India has ever had.
RE:Left Wants to Humiliate Congress
by All Right on Jul 03, 2008 04:16 PM Permalink
In the end you were right, they humiliated themselves, demean themselves and political isolated themselves. For political arrogance and blackmail the Left will be taught a big lesson the next elections.
So consider this the last cry before demise. Till the time they withdraw support, they will continue to grab the media limelight. After that even the media will ignore them
More or less agree with KS. One point to remember about Left's strategy is to foment a Breakaway group form Congress to strengthen third front which thus far remained a sine qua non for any non-congress govt installation at the centre. Dimitrov, Stalin, Mao all theorized united front to garner strength. China will exhilarate because India's burgeoning soft power will face a jolt, the Pakis will celebrate because of a sense of rivalry and overjealousness. We just need to respond to the Call of the Time which entails a productive and mutually beneficial relationship with the US where we send 80000 students each year for the quest of knowledge or pursuing better career options. For many successful Indians, US is the surrogate mother who want to contribute to the progress of their Biological mother, INDIA. Indo-US relation is an offshoot of history which needs to be nurtured with care and love. It can be squandered away only to halt progress in a defined space and time. The deal is not US-centric, this will champion India's ascendancy towards the top echelon of world power. In a post-sanction scenario India will enable to either buy or sell dual-level technologies at a global scale. This is not a golden key to progress but certainly the deal will offer manyfold opportunities which as expected will transcend political boundaries, unfortunately, blind ideology and petty political considerations prevailed. Lets hope finally the deal sees light at the end of the tunnel.
RE:No Deal - Who will enjoy - China, Pak and the Left
by Shyam on Jul 03, 2008 04:52 PM Permalink
In fact, it is otherway round too! There are many Indians helping the US in all its research and development work. Paying money cannot match the work being done by Indians. Many Indians have earned laurels for US by working there. It is equally important for US to keep India in good humour. They are trying to disrupt India's own developmental programmes only to ensure continued flow of Indians to US. After all nobody and no nation would ever want to misuse any of its power, whether it is US or China or India. For that matter, India is much better in maturity than the present Nuclear club members.
Arranging SP's support to UPA is a Cong-Left drama to save the ass of Left. Left is scared of facing elections and UPA may even declare Emergency to avoid polls for 10 years. That is the condition. It is in this scenario, SP, down and out in UP is getting a new life; a few ministers and escape from enquiry into Amar Singh's juicy phone sex and CBI probe into Mulayam's unaccounted seats.
RE:SP Support is arranged by Left to avoid Polls
by Ram Sharma on Jul 03, 2008 05:01 PM Permalink
This drama of UPA-Left-SP combine is to divert attention of the people from galloping inflation. SP will extract its price for the same and Left will also b able to retain its followers, as they hv many times threatened UPA without really going against it in the past and they must b seen to b really biting. It is win - win situation for all 3. Only sometime back MMS had said that nuclear deal is not every thing. Inflation has made it important.
RE:SP Support is arranged by Left to avoid Polls
by abraham jose on Jul 03, 2008 03:45 PM Permalink
You are too right. But you guys are speaking only about dirty politics. Please speak about national interest and what it should be done for the country to prosper.
RE:SP Support is arranged by Left to avoid Polls
by Krishna Pal on Jul 03, 2008 04:02 PM Permalink
Some time good things from the dirt..Now deal is coming from dirt (SP)…let the deal sign...let’s not forget these Chinese politician. We need to show them door.
RE:SP Support is arranged by Left to avoid Polls
by Avinash Kumar on Jul 03, 2008 03:58 PM Permalink
I'm just pointing out the dirty political game which congress-left-sp combine are playing. If I'm asked I'll always go with N-Deal.
RE:left and congress
by Pranab M on Jul 03, 2008 03:29 PM Permalink
CPM comes in power in kerala, tripura, WB by manipulating electronic voting machine , their candidate owns by 1 lakh vote even if hardly 40000 people have voted , as long this is not fixed they will continue to win no matter how many singur, nandigram happens.
RE:left and congress
by Kakes on Jul 03, 2008 03:38 PM Permalink
do you have any knowledge about the election process in the country.. Kerala is one state in this nation of chaos, where free and fair elections take place... I dont know about West Bengal and Tripura... But i hardly see any kind of malpractice, like booth capturing, coersion etc.. take place during kerala elections, even so called elections of cooperative banks, and hospitals, widespread monitoring and vigil is common... unlike the cow belt and hinterland where exploitation is a common norm of life
RE:RE:left and congress
by Shyam on Jul 03, 2008 04:56 PM Permalink
That is what Kakes is saying. When the EVM is manipulated why do you need coersion, booth capturing or rigging. They are most advanced in manipulation.
RE:left and congress
by Gautam Sinha on Jul 03, 2008 04:02 PM Permalink
CPM follows scientific rigging not the brazen show of power which you are used to seeing on ational TV. It starts with collection of data on voters while voters list is being prepared to remove names and add names to suit the planned rigging to having cadres network and intimidate voters and affect turnout before voting to sabotaging elcetion process using legal methods, e.g slow voting to discourage urban voters and then jamming with fake cadres the long queues till end of day to removing ink as soon as bogus voters are done. If photographs it looks like canvassing and enthusiatic voting. You cannot detect anything worng until you experience it.
RE:left and congress
by abraham jose on Jul 03, 2008 03:53 PM Permalink
Sorry my dear, comparing other parties int he country, CPM do do much of voting manipulation. They just manipulate people's mind. They take regular study classes to teach their ideologies. They kill if some one goes out from their party or they destroy him by all means.
RE:left and congress
by Shyam on Jul 03, 2008 04:55 PM Permalink
No. In fact, if they think Bangladesh is more communist, they would not mind merging West Bengal with East Bengal. Such is their foolishness. For these guys, Nation is second, Communism and China are first!
RE:RE:left and congress
by Arijit on Jul 03, 2008 03:52 PM Permalink
vast majority of urban bengal hate left people and most of the left leaders (whether small or big) keep hooligans to put threats on the common mass. Beside this, there are cluster of people who give support to left leaders for having some opportunity in their favour. There are so many opportunist people generated by these poor leftists in Bengal. Bengal's condition and environment are not in favour of common citizens! I fear that as long as these opportunists stay in Bengal, leftists regime will continue!
RE:RE:left and congress
by Avinash Kumar on Jul 03, 2008 04:04 PM Permalink
Manmohan Singh is not humiliating and but humiliating himself by licking feets of filthy creatures like Left Parties and Sonia Gandhi.
RE:RE:left and congress
by Arijit on Jul 03, 2008 03:57 PM Permalink
Mr. Dipak Bose, Who says that Dr. Man Mohon Singh humiliates India? Do you know the background of Nuclear deal? Please read it, and then shout against him. If you are capable of handling a position like PM, then you should shout against the existing one! I guess, you are one of the guys in the group of OPPORTUNISTS persisting in Bengal, and this makes you shouting against anti-left as and when your "great dictators" spell out!
RE:left and congress
by Ram Sharma on Jul 03, 2008 05:04 PM Permalink
So according to u only those people can hv opinion against PM, who can handle the position of PM. That way common man cannot hv its voice heard.
RE:left and congress
by arun kumar on Jul 03, 2008 03:46 PM Permalink
Bengalis part in independence is very crucial ! But I donot understand why they support communism ?
RE:left and congress
by Gautam Sinha on Jul 03, 2008 04:22 PM Permalink
outdated philospohy comes from outdated text books and outdated syllabus with up to date propaganda which they were subjected to
