I have read messages of Hindu Brothers and Muslims. Actually speaking, Muslims are like fire, if anybody put their hands in it, certainly the fire will burn their hands.(Ismailsk)
RE:Black Friday
by Mastram on Feb 01, 2007 11:21 PM Permalink
A lot of muslims of Indian subcontinent (which includes Pakistan, Bangladesh and parts of Afganistan) forget, that they were hindus or some other religion before 800 AD and in fact they were beaten, brutalized, raped, and forced into adapting muslim religion by persians (who were forced to adapt it by arabs) and arabs. And yet they are so gung-ho about this religion, which was literally shoved down their throat, whether they like to accept it or not, most of the people didn't accept Islam for the love of it, but by force. And its is funny when I hear Pakistan name their Missiles and "Gahzni" and "Ghauri" who were Afgans (actually with Persian orgin) and they screwed literally all the Sind, Punjab, NWFP and in those states were current Pakis who got screwed by them, and now they are so stupid, to name their missiles in the name of people, who literally screwed their own ancestors. This shows the ignorance. This shows, how blind muslims are (not all of them, exceptions are there of course), NOT for the love of their religion, BUT in despising other religions, 'cuz that seems to be the prime focus on their (cleric's) agenda. Why such insecurity from other religions?? Why do you think everyone is hell bent on destroying Islam ?? No-one is , no-one has the time, but it serves the muslims cleric's agenda very well. Clerics in other religion exploit people too, but not to the extent in Islam. Corect me if I'm wrong.
RE:Black Friday
by Syed Munis on Feb 02, 2007 12:45 AM Permalink
Please bro be sensible enough & stop using rhetoric...these frnds of ours(non-muslims)already hv so many misconceptions & prejudices for us..lets not push them far from us even more by using that kinda language...ALLAH loves ppl who are kind...Prophet Muhammad(pbuh)tried to understand & make peace with other groups by tryin to communicate his message well & beautifully to others,after establishing peace in Makkah..lets walk the same path...may ALLAH bless you,me & every Muslim with a commitment like our Prophet's...ALLAH HAFIZ..best wishes,your bro..
will b better than watching the movie. nobody can accuse of bias, since it is written by member of the same community.. better than watching fictionalized version of reality. all those who point out to Godhra etc; remember Hindu(shiv sena) did not create 9/11 and loss of so many innocent lives in the world. more power to hinduism. choices made in 1947 should be stuck to
I guess it is high time that we have followed what our ancestors have been doing.
We tend to DWELL in the PAST.
India has been bearing the brunt of various rulers (Indian or Foreign) Some regimes were good some were bad, some were shrewd, some were ugly.
People have lived within those periods and survived. This spirit of survival is something which we all need to introspect and learn from.
We need to learn from what happened during those times and why it happened.
What you will learn is that we the people have been utilised, politicians have played with our emotions and people have shown vengeance in all forms whether Babri, Mumbai or Godhra.
Lets learn that we are not going to be played again by anyone whether Indian or foreign, lets unite together and fight a common problems that we face.
Its easier said than done, a small start from everyone will bear fruits for our future generations.
I know its not easy, but bury the past and march ahead.
RE:Bury the Past
by cool on Feb 01, 2007 06:19 PM Permalink
hey imran cheers and lots of hugs to such a great outstanding and broader thinking...we need people of the sameclass everywhere within our country
RE:RE:Bury the Past
by Syed Munis on Feb 02, 2007 12:03 AM Permalink
your comment is actually offending..what do u mean by "..we need more people like you-good muslims"..as if good muslims are rare..get out of ur prejudices & condescending attitude stuck somewhere in ur sub-conscious..ppl like u with prejudices turn me off more than ppl wwho express themselves bluntly & frankly...actually u r the stuff todays politicians r made of.
RE:Bury the Past
by Syed Moin on Feb 01, 2007 10:49 PM Permalink
Hey Imran, nice thoughts! We all surely would agree with you that politicians have always utilized people and played with their emotions... despite that we all fall for these morons and a few example you'll find in this discussion board itself. Be good to others and yourself, give humanity a chance and let peace prevail!!
RE:blasts
by sayed on Feb 01, 2007 04:22 PM Permalink
Shivsena and other hindu terrorists killed so many innocent muslims and raped many women that time .And these terrorists still roaming freely..Why our system don't punish these people?? why double standards??
RE:RE:RE:blasts
by sayed on Feb 01, 2007 05:52 PM Permalink
-->Mumbai riots by hindu extremists -->Gujrat riots with state goverment support -->Bhagalpur riots -->Bajrang dal involved in so many terrorist attacks -->Virat hindu samvesha which is very active now a days ..Listen to their lectures ..they encourage hindus to kill muslims .
Bajrang dal,VHP,Shivsena these are terrorsit organisations who plans for killing muslims with the help of BJP looks like you are sleeping??
RE:RE:RE:RE:blasts
by Aravind Rajendran on Feb 01, 2007 06:22 PM Permalink
You call him an "Indian" as if its an abuse, you damned fool! HOW DARE YOU?!!!
Bombay blasts happened first u goddman bird brain and the Gujarat happened after Godhra and in Kashmir the terrorists kill innocent people and there are stray incidents of military abuse, yes, but for Godsake they r humans, tehy r bound to make mistakes and terrorists r no saints! And yuo have the nerve to say that Indian law is biased towards Hindus, it is not and even if it is so, so what? this is Hindustan and even then there is nothing radical about the law out here....or otherwise u wouldnt be shooting your mouth on the forum the way u r doing now if hindus r not tolerant. and you have the guts to talk abt retaliation eh?! do u knwo wat would happen if the tolerant hindus start to retaliate? and yeah, come back to indian law, have u heard of the laws in teh muslin countries why dont u go try living there, u will come the very next second flocking ur tail behind ur legs back to india, we r idiots and guys like u take advantage of us. Muslims are a minority community, but with good ethical and moral values, but there r people like u who distinguish and poke hatred, all i got to say to u is this "Go Fish"!
Ayodhya was a mistake, but Babri Masjid was an old mistake! Of course, let me not be a hypocrite, that was a big mistake by Hindus.
RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:blasts
by Mohammed anjum on Feb 01, 2007 07:17 PM Permalink
Mr.Aravind your response was clear but did not cover all of Mr. Sayeds concern, i agree that mistakes trigers response, but you call gujarat riots and all other planned events mistakes thats not digestable.First of all make yourself clear that mistakes happen and are not planned but the events that you are talking about are planned so well that they execute it so immaculately that they never get caught like a saying in hindi "samp bhi marjaye aur laathi bhi na toothe" thats the difference.
RE:BLACK FRIDAY
by Pravin Koshti on Feb 01, 2007 03:03 PM Permalink
Sufferers are only the innocents...
Its not about religion but about the Humanity.
When a person dies of any bomb blast or riots or any war or any Gauri missile its not any Hindu/Muslim/Sikh/Buddhist or Christan...the dead body is human remains, "a body without any wraper of any religion".
RE:BLACK FRIDAY
by pawan prasad on Feb 01, 2007 03:20 PM Permalink
The Bombay Bomb Blast was not the wrath of allah but shameful action by some shameless, hearless and coward people. They are just mentally sick and discusting. Aman
RE:RE:BLACK FRIDAY
by RPMattoo on Feb 01, 2007 05:54 PM Permalink
it is fact that for muslims, religion comes before mother and country.it is very wrong,since the constitution should apply for eveyone
RE:RE:BLACK FRIDAY
by RPMattoo on Feb 01, 2007 05:53 PM Permalink
it is fact that for muslims, religion comes before mother and country.it is very wrong,since the constitution should apply for eveyone
RE:RE:BLACK FRIDAY
by KULDEEP KOUL on Feb 01, 2007 03:26 PM Permalink
Dear Mr. Tahir
Allahs wrath should also fall upon those people and their supporters who killed and drove innocent KASHMIRI PANDITS from their own hands. That day will truly be the greatest day for India.
RE:BLACK FRIDAY
by prashanth belavadikar on Feb 01, 2007 03:26 PM Permalink
This is otherway round.I hope this movie wil open the eyes of those people who blasted Mumbai & supported it evanafter staying in my country and getting all the facilities in the name of Minority.....shame on them. God wil curse them what they have done/doing...
RE:RE:BLACK FRIDAY
by Mohammad kashif on Feb 01, 2007 07:05 PM Permalink
Dear friend what do you mean by my country,country is our's not only yours or majority comunity understand.
Both the incedent was result of fanatism either demolition of mosque or bomb blast you can not justify either and have no right to blame to minority comunity for that.
because minority comunity always remain at the receiving end either 84 anti sikh riot or all the riot against muslims or chistians. This is just film lets enjoy
RE:BLACK FRIDAY
by Pat Thakur on Feb 01, 2007 04:01 PM Permalink
Oh yeah? Then I too am waiting eternally - When shall Allah's Wrath fall on those sinning souls, who 60 years ago demanded to forcibly break away & form a separate Pakistan, Leaving An United India Scarred & Bleeding Forever... & are still trying to shred it into further pieces.
RE:RE:BLACK FRIDAY
by Last Samurai on Feb 01, 2007 03:45 PM Permalink
The movie is good. It is not about Hindu or muslims. It's all about the remorseful confession of a criminal. That's it. A good movie, watched it around one year back. It's worth watching... an Indian Ocean's scores are too good and relevant to the screenplay.
RE:BLACK FRIDAY
by Mastram on Feb 01, 2007 11:22 PM Permalink
A lot of muslims of Indian subcontinent (which includes Pakistan, Bangladesh and parts of Afganistan) forget, that they were hindus or some other religion before 800 AD and in fact they were beaten, brutalized, raped, and forced into adapting muslim religion by persians (who were forced to adapt it by arabs) and arabs. And yet they are so gung-ho about this religion, which was literally shoved down their throat, whether they like to accept it or not, most of the people didn't accept Islam for the love of it, but by force. And its is funny when I hear Pakistan name their Missiles and "Gahzni" and "Ghauri" who were Afgans (actually with Persian orgin) and they screwed literally all the Sind, Punjab, NWFP and in those states were current Pakis who got screwed by them, and now they are so stupid, to name their missiles in the name of people, who literally screwed their own ancestors. This shows the ignorance. This shows, how blind muslims are (not all of them, exceptions are there of course), NOT for the love of their religion, BUT in despising other religions, 'cuz that seems to be the prime focus on their (cleric's) agenda. Why such insecurity from other religions?? Why do you think everyone is hell bent on destroying Islam ?? No-one is , no-one has the time, but it serves the muslims cleric's agenda very well. Clerics in other religion exploit people too, but not to the extent in Islam. Corect me if I'm wrong.
RE:RE:BLACK FRIDAY
by Syed Munis on Feb 02, 2007 12:27 AM Permalink
yes remember godhra & as a result have more mass killings of innocent muslims..great thought...u need to be applauded fr ur 'progressive' thinking...u rock man..u must join some political party soon!
RE:RE:BLACK FRIDAY
by castro pillai on Feb 01, 2007 03:25 PM Permalink
Ash Ford.. you remember POST-GODHRA too .. no one clearly knows the culprits behind GODHRA .. but the whole world knows the "human being(s)" behind post-godhra ...
I'm not saying godhra wasn't bad or something ..but what happened after that was a SHAME TO INDIA.. SHAME TO HUMANITY
RE:RE:RE:BLACK FRIDAY
by saleem ahmed on Feb 01, 2007 04:05 PM Permalink
certainly the movie is great and reflect the how innocent are suffered. This is noa a wrath of Allah. Mr. tahir if u r true muslim then u should know that killing one innocent peoples is killing whole generation. Allah forbid such acts.
RE:RE:RE:RE:BLACK FRIDAY
by bhimesh issar on Feb 01, 2007 07:09 PM Permalink
Hey Saleem,
I wish I cud hug you, I wish all the insane activities stop, killing somebody on the name of religion, lets not have that religion instead, be it hindu or muslim.
Who dies on the border, a hindu or muslim,......its an indian soldier. Who gets laureal to india, a muslim or hindu....of course and indian gets it.
Lets respect the humanity and humility......love people and ensure we take care of the ones who are again our mutual love for our country and country men...........be it hindu or muslim a traitor or terrioist should be delt with so strongly that it dissuade manu other people who may take these steps.
If you kill thousands of people at WTC crash 5 planes, Makes 1000 of natives ( kashmiri pandits) home less, blast the commercial capital of your own country demolish a place of worship, burn a train u sure would be called a terriorist so what if u are a hindu or muslim.........since more of these incidents are from our muslim brothers the entire pios community suffers.
Lets forget the differences and let one god bring our country together, let our country grow and prosper. Lets achieve more. Lets make our lives and our country more beautiful.
RE:RE:BLACK FRIDAY
by Syed Munis on Feb 02, 2007 12:29 AM Permalink
yes remember godhra & as a result have more mass killings of innocent muslims..great thought...u need to be applauded fr ur 'progressive' thinking...u rock man..u must join some political party soon!
RE:RE:BLACK FRIDAY
by fez on Feb 01, 2007 03:18 PM Permalink
What about ULFA militants, Srilanka's LTTE, Irelands IRA..Bajrangdal activits etc...are they not terrorists? Plz update ur general knowledge my friend
RE:RE:RE:BLACK FRIDAY
by Indian on Feb 01, 2007 04:59 PM Permalink
Dear Fez, Are these organisations which u mentioned here are fighting for relegion like islamist?
RE:RE:RE:RE:BLACK FRIDAY
by Syed Munis on Feb 02, 2007 12:11 AM Permalink
by keeping ur ID as 'Indian' doesnt make u one just like if a terrorist says that he is fighting fr Islam & on the other hand he is blowing up innocents doesnt make him a muslim or a hindu extremist saying that they r massacring muslims coz they are fighting fr hindu rashtriya doesnt make them hindu...wake up..work fr unity..recognise similarities & be peaceful...God Bless you!
RE:RE:RE:RE:BLACK FRIDAY
by Syed Munis on Feb 02, 2007 12:06 AM Permalink
no maybe they are nt fighting for religion but probably for ppl like u who show solidarity & support to these kinda groups by being defensive about them...shame on you & your upbringing.
RE:RE:RE:BLACK FRIDAY
by morpheus thyrux on Feb 01, 2007 05:07 PM Permalink
I agree that the names you refered are terrorists but do you think the sentence I mentioned last,hits you on your head??? hey fez, i have more general knowledge than you. the major problem with muslims lie in the fact that they are not only illiterate but try to snatch more when offered more.See what all they do in the name of reservations, once they get the seat, they flunk! Can you imagine these protests by any non muslim in saudi arabia!!!! bite that!
RE:RE:RE:RE:BLACK FRIDAY
by Syed Munis on Feb 02, 2007 12:14 AM Permalink
your aggresive & condescending attitude stinks!God Bless you...love,your bro :)
RE:RE:RE:BLACK FRIDAY
by RPMattoo on Feb 01, 2007 05:54 PM Permalink
it is fact that for muslims, religion comes before mother and country.it is very wrong,since the constitution should apply for eveyone
RE:RE:RE:RE:BLACK FRIDAY
by Syed Munis on Feb 02, 2007 12:18 AM Permalink
yes for muslims Islam comes b4 mother,country & everything coz we believe all this is coz of God & we shudnt be thankless...but that doesnt stop us in anyway from carrying our duties as sons,indians(or as citizens of ne country)etc...if u wont try to understand the approach of muslims to their faith u will remain ignorant...God Bless you..love,your bro...a muslim,a son,an indian..and happy to be all of them.
RE:RE:RE:BLACK FRIDAY
by Babloo Bhaiya on Feb 01, 2007 04:41 PM Permalink
so far as ULFA people, they r funded by whom need not to say .. where r they getting ammunitions from is openly known; then, the LTTE people ... they r the victims of the soil who r going entirely in wrong direction now and for what cause they should have stood .. they have forgotten; now the bajrang dal terrorists[? ... :-(] .. why didnt u take the name of shiv sena members too(?)... they r the outcome of reactions to a nonsense action, that is .. minorities appeasement. where were these bajrang dal or shiv sena people 40 years back? u be the part of peaceful and accepting Mumbai ... be there in homogenity with ur Hindu brotherns .. shiv sena would die down. but u all think what and what way u be in Mumbai!? on this basis u want shiv sena and bajrang dal and VHP to die down? Did u get the name of VHP before 20 years back? unnecessarily r u claiming Babari masjid .. though, each of u knows that the structure can't be a masjid at all by all norms of hadith...
then dear ... who is what .. u judge urself.. and, in world scenario.. all the countries .. barring some of islamic countries.. r facing the heat of ur presence there. even china is crying loudly now in western part of its land. .. what is the matter my knowledgeable friend?
RE:RE:BLACK FRIDAY
by on Feb 01, 2007 04:24 PM Permalink
This shows your shortsightedness. Open your eyes and see, THERE ARE TERRORISTS IN EVERY RELIGION, YOU CANNOT BLAME ONE RELIGION!!!!! Aman
RE:RE:RE:BLACK FRIDAY
by morpheus thyrux on Feb 01, 2007 05:10 PM Permalink
i am sorry you were the only one with a long sight, but you have to accept the fact that the world changed for the worse after 9/11 which was due to one and only one religion! and the funny part is that Shias and Sunnis are killing by the dozens in Iraq! WHo is suffering from short sight my friend????
RE:RE:RE:RE:BLACK FRIDAY
by Syed Munis on Feb 02, 2007 12:52 AM Permalink
you say "...funny part is that shias & sunnis are killing by the dozens in Iraq"...ppl gettn killed(irrespective of whether they r shias,sunnis or anyone else)seems "funny" to you...sick..really sick...get a life...may God Bless you with compassion for others...best wishes,your bro:)
RE:RE:RE:RE:BLACK FRIDAY
by Syed Munis on Feb 02, 2007 12:23 AM Permalink
exactly..world changed after 9/11...Bush contributed enormously & managed to polarise the society further...more innocents were killed after 9/11 than in the WTC terrorist attacks...& yes this all happened only coz of one religion..religion of bush-oil,power,money..God Bless Bush..God Bless You...best wishes,your bro :)
RE:RE:BLACK FRIDAY
by Aman on Feb 01, 2007 04:57 PM Permalink
Dear RED ICE The way you address God shows where you stand and whats your level. First come upto that level and then discuss these matters.May peace be upon you!!!!!
i totally agree with you even though I am a devout hindu. its not Allah that you should blame you idiotic "red ice", but those who fight in the "name of Allah" and does jihad or what ever crap they do all over the globe!
RE:BLACK FRIDAY
by shivangshu naval on Feb 01, 2007 05:11 PM Permalink
dear mr. tahir, please don't have such communal views, we r all one,Indians, that is and we must all condem all acts of terror, be it coming from any person, irrespective of his/her religion.after all no relegion teaches us to kill fellow human beings. and as far as the movie is concerned its a pretty decent one and can be watched once.
RE:RE:BLACK FRIDAY
by RPMattoo on Feb 01, 2007 05:55 PM Permalink
it is fact that for muslims, religion comes before mother and country.it is very wrong,since the constitution should apply for eveyone
