This aircraft is a very very high risk aircraft and is heavily dependent on electrical circuits. If circuits fail, it will not be easy to control. Due to its very heavy weight, it is a high risk in turbulence. Moreover if it nose dives what happens to swimming pool water? And in case of emergency it cannot be rerouted to nearest airport. Till date, we do not know if it can glide like the other aircrafts if machines fail. And all its economics assumes that it will be fully loaded so today it will fly on heavy traffic routes. When it is not so, what will happen? And this is just the beginning and it has not yet shown its full colors yet. So it remains to be seen if it wil head the concorde way
RE:High risk aricraft
by Sheetal Kaur on May 21, 2008 04:33 PM Permalink
Air crafts have a back up system it does not full operate every thing but just essentials.Such as cockpits rudders etc so that it can be glided, Yes it is a very high risk aircraft i agree with you then aviation is a high rick service always have been.Matter infact less people die in aircraft accidents compared to car accidents so according to accident statistics it is quite safe. Then life is a risky business every second of it..
RE:RE:High risk aricraft
by ashish sinha on May 21, 2008 01:49 PM Permalink
as a matter of fact, the bigger an aircraft is, stringer are the security norms for it. If you see the crash history in civil air aviation, you will find the smaller planes with most crashes.
for example boeing 747 has had many crashes whereas boeing 777 has had none.
though I agree with you that A380 wont be able to land on small airports, but for all other factors, it is much safer than a small aircraft.
It's a thumb rule in avaition to prefer bigger aircarafts from the point of view of safety.
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by Gautam Sinha on May 21, 2008 02:38 PM Permalink
I was not comparing it to small aircrafts. Bigger aircrafts are much more crash safe. In fact your observations on 747 are correct. But the big point is, if all electrical equipment fail on 747 you can still land it by gliding using a step pattern decent and you can land it in most of todays airport. Many crashes were averted this way. Given A 380 where would you land it?
RE:RE:High risk aricraft
by Yusarian on May 21, 2008 04:18 PM Permalink
The biggest aircraft can never remain as the biggest. Soemone will want to build something more big. Bigger the aircraft, bigger will be the challenges in designing airfields, runways, safety systems, security systems etc. How big is big? I remember the "biggest' aircraft that Howard Hughes built. Seen that in Aviator?
RE:High risk aricraft
by Harimau Iyer on May 22, 2008 05:52 AM Permalink
You land the A380 anywhere there is a long enough runway.
When someone says most airports are not ready for the A380, they mean that the aerobridges have not been built to handle the two levels of the A380's upper and lower passenger cabins.
Why don't you stop showing the knowledge you have gained from watching TV shows and actually start reading up on the A380 before you spout off?
RE:RE:High risk aricraft
by on May 25, 2008 02:18 PM Permalink
you just need around 2.8 kms runway for landing of this plane. It will easily land in most airports
RE:High risk aricraft
by on May 25, 2008 02:16 PM Permalink
companies like airbus don't just sell their aircraft if there is a risk. they must have thoroughly checked all electronic and electrical equipments. don't worry...
RE:High risk aricraft
by monjit bora on May 21, 2008 05:20 PM Permalink
given the arguments of electronic failure how can we be not sure of such failure in any other aircraft? I mean accident is accident, right? And per regulations no commercial aircraft can be released in the market unless it successfully passes all those safety regulations.
RE:High risk aricraft
by Gautam Sinha on May 21, 2008 06:24 PM Permalink
yes quite right. in case of electronic failure the system on 747 is such that all the hydraulic equipment can be opertaed manually and a pilot can glide it as it is possible with very much difficulty. But given the size of this aircraft and the weight and its heavy dependence on electronics, I m not sure whether you can glide this thing with engines of.
RE:High risk aricraft
by Count Meout on May 21, 2008 03:19 PM Permalink
The total number of unique tests done to certify A380's air worthiness is 148,000, which is the highest for any passenger aircraft. The aircraft has also been tested for evacuation in less than 90 seconds with 700 passengers in all Economy configuration.
RE:RE:High risk aricraft
by Gautam Sinha on May 21, 2008 06:26 PM Permalink
yes very correct, I read that data too. But those are control conditions test. My concerns were clear, what happens in cases of sudden turbulence to the swimming pool and the likes? And given the heavy weight, can you glide it with engines off to a safe landing? And if you can land it, can you land it on just any runway? I think not
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by on May 25, 2008 02:19 PM Permalink
remember the huge wingspan which ensures that the A380 will be able to glide if any such emergencies occur
RE:High risk aricraft
by Rapid Snail on May 22, 2008 12:20 AM Permalink
You think the people spending billions of dollars on this plane(buyers as well as manufacturers) did not think of such simple points first?
Dont think of yourselves to be so brilliant as to see something which all those thousands of engineers who worked on the design and development of this aircraft missed.
RE:High risk aricraft
by srinivas on May 21, 2008 01:48 PM Permalink
What do you think, all other aircrafts run on coal. Smart a$$. Ever heard of flight tests?
RE:High risk aricraft
by Gautam Sinha on May 21, 2008 02:36 PM Permalink
flight tests are testing recovery systems and happy flows not by switching off engines. Watch Nat Geo series seconds from Disaster and Air Crash investigations and you will understand what I mean
Dont you think this is an old story rediff is the last one to describe mighty A380 latest is A380 s got delayed ,still going on and Airbus is in crisis
RE:kandhar
by Kajal Sethi on May 21, 2008 01:59 PM Permalink
Some fools like to joke at the expense of those hijacked to Kandahar. I hope they would not be the first to be shot dead and thrown on the runway in a foreign country.
i was just wondering if there is regular service of a380 at bombay airport then : 1 ] for a normal international flight we have to report 3 hours before hand, for a a380 it would be atleast 5 hours. 2 ] if a flight get delayed then it would chaos at the airport. 3 ] if a flight gets cancelled - then does bombay have so many hotel rooms to accomodate all the passengers till the next conneting flight... 4 ] the airport authorities woud have to expidate a whole fleet of trucks for transportation of the luggage of a flight [ to and fro from the airport to the flight ]. 5 ] last but not the least if two flights arrive simultaneouly at the bombay airport - then it would be havoc !!!!
RE:a380
by rohit trivedi on May 21, 2008 01:06 PM Permalink
its not available in India..but "indians" all over the world will use it..probably more then any other nationality :)
RE:a380
by Jojo on May 21, 2008 12:06 PM Permalink
mr jack - i am not crying - it was just a thought - don;t take things too hard. i have only expressed my views. i am well aware - its going to be years before these flights regularly service at bombay airport.
RE:a380
by iam here on May 21, 2008 12:09 PM Permalink
Don't worry... you will see more Indians travelling in it.... as all over the world, there are only Indians... sorry to disappoint you 'sparrow'... do you know that Kingfisher Airlines has already ordered one.... I think you need to take a 'flight'!!! oops... Hike .... ha ha ha....
RE:absolutely STUNNING presentation..!!
by Mukul Kanchan on May 21, 2008 01:33 PM Permalink
these bloody sucker companies like boeings & airbus survive bcos India is ordering them in hundreds & thousands.. the day INDIA decide to produce planes indigenously, they have s shut shops.... beware of INDIA... its a POWER!!
RE:absolutely STUNNING presentation..!!
by Polisetty Ravishankar on May 21, 2008 02:44 PM Permalink
What? India ........ producing planes indigenously? :)) What power are you talking about? Which area did we conquer apart from servicing the US IT companies with our toilet paper?
RE:india needs smaller ones
by bharat on May 21, 2008 11:27 AM Permalink
Don't worry, A380 cannot fly to Indian airport just like that. Until our airports are ugraded, no airline will fly A380 to India. Even Singapore's Changi Airport jad to spend $60 million to upgrade their existing facilities to handle A380. This included bigger lounges and provision of a separate aerobridge for the upper deck to facilitate quick boarding and deboarding. Presently, only Calicut airport is geared to receive A380.
RE:india needs smaller ones
by jaheer MP on May 21, 2008 01:22 PM Permalink
Saaalaaa... Hare thu isi duniya mein hein na?? PRESENTLY ONLY CALICUT AIRPORT is geared to recuieved A 380??? theri dimag to deek hai na... CCJ is still trying to expand runways n airport recieve present jumbo flights.. then how comes such gigantic flight can land in that BUS STAND LIKE AIRPORT??? huh???
RE:india needs smaller ones
by Roshan Vijay on Jun 13, 2008 11:33 AM Permalink
yes but will BOM,DEL,BLR or COK be able to service this giant now? think think think
RE:india needs smaller ones
by sai pradeep on May 21, 2008 03:19 PM Permalink
Hyderabad's Shamshabad is the biggest Airport in the country today. Equally bigger will be the New Bangalore airport which will be inaugurated shortly.
RE:india needs smaller ones
by Srinivas V on May 21, 2008 01:45 PM Permalink
Hyderabad's new operational RGIA Airport is equipped to handle the A380 given that this airport has the longest runway in SE Asia alongwith terminal facilities to receive the A380. So it will be very soon within the next 2 - 3 years that we can see at least 2 or 3 A380's fly in the Indian skies.
BTW where is India a fast developing country with its economy growing can only boast of the one or two good airports whis is not even comparable to other international airports.
