RE:Fixation of pay
by Praveen Prabhakaran on Mar 24, 2008 11:46 PM Permalink
yes gupta, some guys in britan were comparing abt thier jobs being outsourced to India.. They were grumbling , so r u..
suppose a teacher gets 9500/- basic in the pay scale of 6500-10500 what will be his new basic and new scale give the difference between pay band and grade pay thanks naqvi
RE:pay rise
by suman das on Mar 24, 2008 07:16 PM Permalink
Government employee and Bribe/ They cannot go together. It is only service Charge. Do you know what is service charge? It is a charge given for rendering excellent service. And it will remain after all it is in the culture now. Otherwise how india will be among one most corrupt countries in the world map? It is a matter of maturity of a person to accept that bribe oh! sorry it is service tax is here to stay and for the good of the indian society.
RE:pay rise
by Manian Vasudevan on Mar 24, 2008 07:20 PM Permalink
Corruption exists only because, the general public resort to that as a short cut to get things done. First let the general public pledge that they will never give even a pie as a bribe to get anything done. Then see how our country changes!
RE:i want know about my next pay
by Rattan on Mar 24, 2008 07:13 PM Permalink
IAM IN THE bASIC PAY OF 12925 AND WORKING IN THE nATIONAL INSTITUTE OF AYURVD Established by Ayush Dept. Head by Govering Body Presidentship Dr. Ambomany Ji Menister of health
RE:i want know about my next pay
by suman das on Mar 24, 2008 07:18 PM Permalink
you will get 40% increase in basic and in that ymmmmm also. Best of luck.
The most inefficient and corrupt and incompetant lots are getting hige pay hikes. Comon, i cant understand how a Judge can create such reports and recommandations? He is not qualified to do so...... . Wake up India, enough of acting intelligent and working stupid. (Our finance minister, Harward educated ....., any rationality of choosing an Judicial person for his excercise)
The 6th pay commission has recomended a hike of 40% let there be anti corruption commission and find out how much money these babus have piled from under the table.If 40% hike is recomended even then the 100% corruption rate will stay on.If you forget your driving licence at home even then a traffic police constable won't be satisfied with 40% hike and let you go with appropriate action to produce the license but he would ask for the bribe as usual as he had been taking previously.
RE:40% hike 100% corruption!
by harsha shastry on Mar 24, 2008 07:41 PM Permalink
pls stop this kind of stupid arguments. There are many govt servents who never take bribe. May be they may not have the oppertunity to take it. And what do u think, only the IT and BP people should live in a city like bangalore.Do u know what they are paid compered to the governemnt salary?
RE:40% hike 100% corruption!
by nikhil shah on Mar 25, 2008 01:30 AM Permalink
ek dum sahi bola.....yaar dosto jese tum log khana kha rahe hu,apni jindgi ki jarorat puri kar rahe hu...Govt employee ku bhi apan family expnses pura karne ka rights hai...tumhar BPO gayab hoga tub...you guys will be on earth.
RE:40% hike 100% corruption!
by SITA on Mar 24, 2008 06:50 PM Permalink
40%hike 100% corruption! Fantastic!! Even if there is 100% hike we will have 100% corruption!!
RE:40% hike 100% corruption!
by suman das on Mar 24, 2008 07:21 PM Permalink
Pay commission should be empowered to recommend the hike in corrption fee i.e. bribe also.
The 6th pay commission has recomended a hike of 40% let there be anti corruption commission and find out how much money these babus have piled from under the table.If 40% hike is recomended even then the 100% corruption rate will stay on.If you forget your driving licence at home a even then a traffic police constable be satisfied with 40% hike and let you go with appropriate action to produce the license but he would ask for the bribe as usual as he had been taking previously.
RE:40% hike 100% corruption?
by Kabeer on Mar 24, 2008 06:52 PM Permalink
Wonderful Sujeel!
Show me one honourable industrialist who did not spend a dollar more when he/she went abroad, than what the RBI permitted to carry along with them the maximum limit of Foreign currency?
Show me one industrialist who preempted bribind the ITOs/CTOs to get tax orders passed in their favour when they were caught evading paying tax?
If you have a private bank account like that of HDFC or ICICI havenot you received mailers in the guise of receiving monthly statements which are allowed to be sent at lower rates of only 3/- by the postal dept?
How many private companies dont pay their employees ON VOUCHER CASH PAYMENTS?
Which industrialist sell real estate without accepting atleast 25% in cash?
RE:40% hike 100% corruption?
by sunil pradhan on Mar 24, 2008 07:02 PM Permalink
those r owned by thr father so they can do how they like. but u people enjoying public money.
RE:40% hike 100% corruption?
by Kabeer on Mar 24, 2008 07:10 PM Permalink
If you are referring to Companies, almost all are Public Limited Companies and these industrialists with a minuscle shareholding like 20% use a Public Limited companies as their own. It is the Company buys half a dozen Mercedes/BMWs and a swanky bungalows and even private jets that do not contribute to the companny's revenue. These assets are for the exclusive use of Lalas and their families.
RE:RE:40% hike 100% corruption?
by Arnav Singh on Mar 24, 2008 07:17 PM Permalink
Hi kabeer....good analysis..but sadly..its not correct justification....if industrialists use mercedes or jets..they have earned that money b'coz of either..their ancestral money, or they themselves have earned it by use of their brain n business tact...y r u tying to save corrupt gov employees by giving illogical n insane justifications...?? There cant b any justification for u to become a corrupt person.
RE:RE:RE:40% hike 100% corruption?
by Kabeer on Mar 24, 2008 07:40 PM Permalink
I can give an exhaustive reply but for sake of space restrict to only one sentence.
In India bribe was never primarily demanded, it was primarily offered as they know where the guilt lies!
No one has ever paid an Income Tax officer when he paid his taxes honestly!
RE:40% hike 100% corruption?
by Sujeel on Mar 24, 2008 07:45 PM Permalink
Agreed with Arnav,either Kabeer is a supporter of corruption or he himself a corrupt Babu. Kabeer I am not talking about the mischief or cheating tactics used by private sectors to lure or cheat customers that's all together a different topic of discussion.I am talking about the corrutpion in the government sector.I am surprised to see that you are a supporter of corruption,Alas.
RE:40% hike 100% corruption?
by sunil pradhan on Mar 24, 2008 07:14 PM Permalink
we are talking about performance & pay ~ if im nt wrong 90% of talented resources engaged in PVT sector and les than 1% in govt. sector. so we dont see any creative processes in govt. sector. they r not worth to get such hike.
RE:40% hike 100% corruption?
by Kabeer on Mar 24, 2008 07:37 PM Permalink
Dear Sunil,
The talent that you are talking about comes from IITs and IIMs which are solely funded by Govt. In the US and West it is the Pvt sector that funds the professional education.
There is no pride in bragging about recruiting the best talent when the Pvt sector contributed nothing for that talent reaching that level.
Now dont tell me about taxes.
In the US and West too Pvt sector pays taxes and funds professional education in Universities.
Tell me which Ambani, which Birla, which Tata spent an iota on professional education?
I see most of u blaming the pay hike..but make sure that the defence people of Army, Navy and the Air force, deserve much more...They toil their lives for the sake of our safety and they do not know corruption! So pls do not generalise the pay hike!
RE:Do not blame the defence pls!
by dharmendra jadoun on Mar 24, 2008 07:15 PM Permalink
No disrespect to defense people...but more people die in road accident then in defense sector ...
most people i meet in defense knows that it's very rare to involve in any war these days and they can pass their work period without any trouble
RE:Do not blame the defence pls!
by jitendra mishra on Mar 24, 2008 07:44 PM Permalink
the biggest corruption in india has taken place in defence sector only.be it jeep purchased in 1950s or bofors or recent one purchase of barak missile system.instances of corruption in defence forces are numerous and only big one's which runs in thousands of crores are reported.small one remains unnoticed as it doesn't affect the common man walking on the street,though he mat fell haressed by the cops.
Hiking Govt Employee salaries is not the point. First make them accountable for quality work. They are the most clumsiest and stupidest workers I've ever seen or known!!
RE:Make them accountable first
by Kabeer on Mar 24, 2008 06:39 PM Permalink
Have you ever missed even a post card that was not delivered at your doorstep, even if the address was written in the most unintelligible way?
Do you find a postman who climbs three floors t deliver your letter, even while reaching retirement age,clumsy?
Do you find a traffic cop standing in sweltering heat in the middle of a road at a stretch for 10 hours breathing toxic fumes, stupidest?
RE:Make them accountable first
by on Mar 24, 2008 06:44 PM Permalink
Just becos a lor of govt. officials do not work..do not blame the entire lot! If the railway guard fails to work, you would land in a fatal accident..Grow up before u pass foolish comments!
RE:Make them accountable first
by Arnav Singh on Mar 24, 2008 07:22 PM Permalink
u fool...that doent mean that they b given a crore rupee for this job. What abt those gov units which r in loss n not even service provider..a parasite to gov..who will bear their expenses??..U...????
RE:Make them accountable first
by raj mukherjee on Mar 24, 2008 06:36 PM Permalink
dont talk foolishly. It is very easy to point others but try to judge urself first. You urself seem to be the most clumsiest and stupidiest of the lot in this universe.
RE:Make them accountable first
by bimal karan on Mar 24, 2008 07:07 PM Permalink
YES THIS GOVT. IS ONLY FOR GOVT. EMPLOYEES OF 45 LAKHS FAMILY. PRESENT EARNING OF ANY GOVT. EMPLOYEE IS MORE THAN PER CAPITA INCOME OF INDIA(AVERAGES). GOVT. ARE NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR OTHER THEY ARE ONLY FOR GOVT. EMPLOYEE AND POLITICAL LEADRS. THEY KNOW THAT IF THEY SATISFY THE GOVT. EMPLOYEE AND POLITICAL LEADERS THAN THEIR VOTE WILL COME THROUGH OF THEM. SO THEY ARE ONLY INTERESTED TO SATISFY THEM ONLY
RE:RE:Make them accountable first
by Balankeswar Patnaikk on Mar 24, 2008 06:46 PM Permalink
Dear Mr/ mrs/ Miss Kindly read the above article properly, you would find that recommendation is for A scheme of PRIS (performance related incentive scheme) has been recommended. PRIS should also work as a substitute for bonus, honorarium and overtime allowances,"
More over I know quite a few Govt officials who are working for a peanuts yet have great love for their profession. have you done anything worthwhile to impress upon such thoughts....Please ABSTAIN in making general statements.
RE:RE:RE:Make them accountable first
by sunil pradhan on Mar 24, 2008 06:54 PM Permalink
pls if u ask 90% of general people says govt. employees r simply useless and dont have service mentality
RE:Make them accountable first
by sunil pradhan on Mar 24, 2008 06:51 PM Permalink
oh u govt. bugs dont doing any favor...anybody can do ur job better & best except u. so quit govt jobs , open it for pvt. players who r more efficient.
