90,000 per month?3lakhs per month for SEBI,TRAI etc., directors.have you gone nuts ? How much were these jokers bribed to propose such a lecherous and free market pay hike! What is the motto behind this ?Do you guys want Govt. servents compete with CEO's of MNCs?
First get your basics right. 1.Make sure the unemployed gets atleast some basic employment somewhere and some place in the country. 2.Implement the law of minimum wages effectively and efficiently for all classes of employees esp the low waged employees. 3. The Labor commission should take measures that private vendors create employment. for eg. Many Gas Stations in India have scraped jobs at the pump after the electroic payment processing has come. This should not be allowed. Even in USA in states like NJ they have enforced this rule. Why not in our Country where unemployment rate is rocket high.This will easily create lakhs of jobs across the nation. 4. Increase the salaries of low waged employees like clerks and assistants who are living hard lives in highly expensive metropolis. Everyone knows that their lifestyle is hand to mouth for several years. 5.Justice Srikrishna thinks he has recommended something which is good for the nation . Abosolutely not Sir! What measures and metrics do you currently have for performance related incentive scheme? without an effective system in place this is only going to lead to more corruption in the ladder . Last but not least pls don't compare Govt. jobs with private s
RE:Lack of clarity and understanding of the problem?
by Anand on Mar 25, 2008 05:11 AM Permalink
"Many Gas Stations in India have scraped jobs at the pump after the electroic payment processing has come. This should not be allowed. Even in USA in states like NJ they have enforced this rule." --My reply is for your comment above. In NJ and majority of pumps in US the drivers themselves fill the gas. I dont know what rule you are talking about.
RE:Lack of clarity and understanding of the problem?
by slicktiger on Mar 25, 2008 05:49 AM Permalink
Oregon and New Jersey are the two States That Require Gas Station Attendants To Pump Your Gas.go check it out.
RE:Lack of clarity and understanding of the problem?
by vjofvizag on Mar 25, 2008 08:56 AM Permalink
first u get u'r basics right.. More talented, or more responsible = the higher u shud be payed... this is a simple rule. so paying 90k for a responsible person is no big deal. stop being a communist. communists cannot take India any further, they r only going to pull it back.
RE:Lack of clarity and understanding of the problem?
by slicktiger on Mar 25, 2008 02:03 AM Permalink
Last but not least pls don't compare Govt. jobs with private sector. One who is privately employed is taking a risk.It is an every day challenge. you never know when he'll lose job without notice,gratuty and allowances.There are no labor unions,political interest or left parties to fight for you ! better keep the two seperate !
Now that they got a pay rise above the inflation, your file and any government business is going to take even longer to be sorted. Get ready for even longer delays.
RE:RE:Hefty pay hike for govt staff
by raj on Mar 25, 2008 02:19 PM Permalink
IAS are permanent govt. you should also know for 90k . he is a link bet_n PM and Cabinet. Only toppers can be placed for this coveted post. others are also doing their job and getting salary on behalf of these higher auth. you should also know the ratio of max : min::12:1.
RE:Hefty pay hike for govt staff
by sam on Mar 25, 2008 02:16 AM Permalink
Hey Ajit, I think the price of inflation has been paid by central goverment employees mouch mrore than you and me. Dont drool over there salary figure mentioned. The figures mentioned as 90K is the figure of those guys who realy are worth it. You know who becomes cabinet secretary, you know how much competition he has faced you know how many hours he has spent to clear IAS, you know how much determination he had to think of preparing for IAS? You know what they had bet on when they decided to prepare for IAS? No dear, you realy dont know, if you come to know then you will realise the CEO's of private companies are being paid unreasonable money if 90K per month is high.
RE:RE:Hefty pay hike for govt staff
by sunil pradhan on Mar 25, 2008 10:29 AM Permalink
Mr. sam where r u living these days ? we know what the IAS r doing ? does they know wht is globalisation ? can they compete globally ? they r too little tommies inside womb...ever seen any IIM grads ? they u will realise in wht age ur living
RE:Hefty pay hike for govt staff
by R Kadian on Mar 25, 2008 09:39 AM Permalink
well everyone spends sleepless nights to prepare for any good job. then why this bias towards only IAS officers . it seems as if those are the only people working in the country all other govt. officials are just fools?
RE:RE:Hefty pay hike for govt staff
by sunil pradhan on Mar 25, 2008 10:26 AM Permalink
Indian civil service an OLD out-dated irrelevant . No need to bash them with highest authoratitive position, IIM graduates better equipeed to face the global competatives.
yah..do they deserve?what is the effect of pc on work culture in totality on cg employees?it should be studied first before offering them pay hike.after pc,the work culture never improves,in fact it deteriorates.corruption increases in proportion to pay scales.the work will never be done to the common man on time.and politicians will always be there to protect corruption to meet their own ends.the country goes on like with no accountability from any quarter of the govt........
RE:6 th pay commission
by sam on Mar 25, 2008 02:03 AM Permalink
Dear what ever industry you are in, I am pretty sure if you do analysis any one can say that you are over paid.
90,000 per month? have you gone nuts ? How much were these jokers bribed to propose such a lecherous and free market pay hike! What is the motto behind this ?Do you guys want Govt. servents compete with CEO's of MNCs?
First get your basics right. 1.Make sure the unemployed gets atleast some basic employment somewhere and some place in the country. 2.Implement the law of minimum wages effectively and efficiently for all classes of employees esp the low waged employees. 3. The Labor commission should take measures that private vendors create employment. for eg. Many Gas Stations in India have scraped jobs at the pump after the electroic payment processing has come. This should not be allowed. Even in USA in states like NJ they have enforced this rule. Why not we where unemployment rate is rocket high. 4.Justice Srikrishna thinks he has recommended something which is good for the nation . Abosolutely not Sir! What measures and metrics do you currently have for performance related incentive scheme? without an effective system in place this is only going to lead to more corruption in the ladder .
RE:I do not support pay commission hike to some extent
by Blazer on Mar 25, 2008 12:48 AM Permalink
Its the Tqax Payer money . The Govt is aware that the citizens always think the Govt works against them. The Govt will intentionally leak such information ot the press take some critisizm from the public and fix it at 20%. Neither the Govt Employees benefited or the tax payer. Ultimately the Govt gets sympathy. This is politics my friend.
RE:I do not support pay commission hike to some extent
by slicktiger on Mar 25, 2008 01:02 AM Permalink
There are more than 15 crore unemployed youth in the country. How can Justice Srikrishna justify the commitee recommendations ? 3 lakhs per month for SEBI,TRAI etc., directors? has he gone nuts? Howmuch he got bribed ?Probably some other pary would demand for an enquiry commission.
RE:RE:I do not support pay commission hike to some extent
by slicktiger on Mar 25, 2008 01:06 AM Permalink
60,000 crore for farmers 18,000 crore per year for central employees. obvviously state govt. will be forced to increase too . Eventually to give these salaries tha tax payer money is not sufficient.Govt. has to sell Land and Liquor and even Mother India . I heard Andhra CM is already doing that since the state is bankrupt.
RE:I do not support pay commission hike to some extent
by sam on Mar 25, 2008 02:08 AM Permalink
Dear Slick you must be an IT guy, then let me tell you the bitter truth. IT professional are paid unjustifiable money. They are much more than what they deserve and in India the salary hike problem is given by IT industry only so dont give sermons. How do I say IT guys are paid more than they deserve? Even I am in IT. My simple maths Profit= Sale Price - Cost. Any IT company the profitability is highest compared to any industry. Thats possible only if IT companies are charging unreasonable money. And the pressure in Indian salary market is because of IT industry, going by the trend I dont think any non IT professional will have capacity to buy a decent size home in any decent city in comming 5 yrs. So stop giving sermons.
RE:I do not support pay commission hike to some extent
by slicktiger on Mar 25, 2008 05:04 AM Permalink
hey sam. don't preach. I've never concluded that the hike is not justifiable for low income salaried class. the highlight here is Cabinet Secretaries .Can you show me one IAS without land or home in Metros? everyone knows how they have could have earned the wealth. I don't know what sort of IT u r in but most of the IT jobs are insecure though profitable. so worthy risk. What sort of risk IAS officers are in. There are several officers caught taking bribe ,involved in corruption and are still enjoying plum posts with no charges . and some are still occupying their jobs even after retirement for various political reasons. so, stop comparing the two. IT is shit compared to a Cabinet Secretary!
RE:RE:I do not support pay commission hike to some extent
by Binay Biswas on Mar 25, 2008 05:34 AM Permalink
do u know at what age an IAS become a cabinet secretary? and how many of then can reach that post..atleast more han 55 yrs---and CEO--most are between 40-45--imagine
RE:RE:I do not support pay commission hike to some extent
by critic on Mar 26, 2008 07:45 PM Permalink
to slick tiger: Almost 2 lakhs of IT professionals are getting jobs in India every year. How many IAS posts are created every year? No Comparision! If u find Cabinet secy jobs so lucrative and secured too, why don't give it a try. Stop saying rubbishes. India desparately requires good candidates in every field (administrative, research, higher education etc)and the pay hike is only to retain qualified persons in Govt posts.
Can anyone tell me or explain if they are planning to hike the pay for defence personels too. They normaly dont have any representative in those commissions and are normaly ignored.
RE:What about the Defence personels
by slicktiger on Mar 25, 2008 05:07 AM Permalink
sorry Goldy . Pay Commission is for Cabinet Secretaries who can influence the Govt. Defence will get its share if there is some remaining!
RE:Foolish ON, do not deserve a hike
by nikhil shah on Mar 25, 2008 12:53 AM Permalink
do you think those who work in MNC are very brillient and intellignet..i hope you better know as you might be working in MNC.
Sir Im working in Central university @ basic pay of Rs. 5600/- i want to know that what will be my basic pay after finalisation of 6th pay commission and also what will be my tentative gross salary after 6th pay commission
RE:regarding pay 6th pay commission
by Raja Sen on Mar 24, 2008 11:09 PM Permalink
I met my childhood sweetheart after 18 years.That time he loved me crazily.now he is happily married and says im only his friend..Im not able to accpet this..i know it is bad..shud i continue his friendship? He stays he still likes me as his friend and respects me a lot..is there no love for me in him anymore? how can men move on? he has 2 boys and i have one girl.our spouses know this but are very nice and have no probm with our friendship.
RE:regarding pay 6th pay commission
by nikhil shah on Mar 25, 2008 12:56 AM Permalink
are yaar kya suru kar diya ....us bichare ku koi bato uska gross salary after 6th pay commsion kya hoga........
RE:regarding pay 6th pay commission
by arun singh on Mar 24, 2008 11:16 PM Permalink
abe pagal hoo gaye hoo ....here we are not talking abt ur love story
RE:RE:regarding pay 6th pay commission
by Praveen Prabhakaran on Mar 25, 2008 12:28 AM Permalink
18 saal se dil me leki ghum raha and now telling just for friendship..tera marad bada dhakaan hai..
Though a central govt employee myself, I do not support the proposed wage hike. The Govt employees do not deserve it. It is an unnecessary burden on the taxpayers. The economy would be hit like it was in the aftermath of 5th pay commission. There is no accountability, no work culture in most of the Govt. departments. But yes, do compensate the armed forces' personnel. The hardships faced by them, particularly the infantry people, can not be imagined by others.
RE:Pay commission
by Praveen Prabhakaran on Mar 25, 2008 12:31 AM Permalink
Do u know some1 special in the infantry who deserves slightly more than other infantry ppl..
RE:RE:RE:Pay commission
by Raks on Mar 25, 2008 12:26 AM Permalink
You are big lier u fool on & dont deserve a hike rather. I'll ask the gov not to consider this dum guy for a hike
RE:Pay commission
by Loan Shark on Mar 24, 2008 11:54 PM Permalink
arrey bhai ... the gap between public and pvt sector is getting bigger ... pvt sector wages are fueling inflation.
abhee pay raise se paisa toh milega naa sarkari naukar ko ... rishwat kum lena padega tereko
Look at a Geologist working in remote areas with the least facility and available, someplaces so risky that he may get ambushed by terrorists or wild animals. He has very little to be corrupted. Even when he makes a discovery which fills the belly of later industrialists and the Govt exchequer he is not paid even a 0.001% of the profit either the company makes or the Govt gets. He is always haunted by the scare of even a minor misappropriation charge by which he can be suspended,or dismissed with a dire consequence of stopping his pension, for which he goes about all through his service. Such people are the main force of the Govt around whom there are thousands who reap the profit in both Govt and private sector.