These public sector peoples do nothing and expect hikes...only sitting on their bench doing gossips...it should be better to cut their salaries rather giving them hike....
RE:Cut the public sector employee salaries...
by sunil pradhan on Mar 24, 2008 02:31 PM Permalink
certainly Babus & Netas managing this country. they made this country no.1 in world in 60 yers only.
RE:Cut the public sector employee salaries...
by Honey Arora on Mar 24, 2008 02:32 PM Permalink
No I think he is right. let them earn by bribes only. our society has already accepted bribes, no point hikes unless it comes with a counter plan to kill corruption
RE:Cut the public sector employee salaries...
by Sunderam Aiyer on Mar 24, 2008 02:36 PM Permalink
And pray, what are you doing now? Constructive work!!!!!!!!! And you are getting paid!!! How is that? For every finger you point there are three pointed right back at you.
no hike to those non-performers . if possible halved thr. salary. measure thr. performance sick/lack of e'thing not worth to get the salary like this. god save
I am working in chemical company in 3 shifts and that too involes hard work but am getting less than the govt employees who are just enjoying discussing cricket, playing cards, sleeping on saturday, sundady and going on picnic frequently, visitign native places on many other holidays which I cannot do. In pvt all people dont get good salary but in govt even a donkey gets the handsome salary as per this commission? increments should be totally performacne based and not via any commission? morever these govt employees are a huge vote bank and by pressured tactis they bend the govt and get all facilities whihc common man cannot get. this is indirectly injustive to poor fellow indians.
RE:NO JUSTIFICATION OF HIKE
by Sunderam Aiyer on Mar 24, 2008 02:29 PM Permalink
Mr. foreman, maybe if you had studied and done well you would have had a salary of 40K in the same company. Do not take out your angst and your misfortune in the guise of your message above. Who told you people do not get good salary. A good salary is worth what a person he is. So look inside yourself, you will find your answer.
RE:NO JUSTIFICATION OF HIKE
by Gagandeep bajaj on Mar 24, 2008 02:40 PM Permalink
agreed...tat people do get gud salaries..... but u think ... the govt. employees deserve this much .... they hardly work...nd even if they do ...its only when they r offered bribes..... nd the guy above is right.... people only in the IT industry and now power get gud money..... clear ur facts ... (i m also in IT and getting pretty gud salary)
RE:NO JUSTIFICATION OF HIKE
by Viz Narayan on Mar 24, 2008 02:56 PM Permalink
Sunderam Aiyer seems like best example of taking public money and doing no work. Aiyer, please let me know if you want the hike directly send from my account (In effect that is what happens anyway)
Appraisal sys in Govt. Secotr shuld be systematic they called it Confidential Report. ITs depend on Person who signs the report, its not depend on performence at all. It is higly polluted by castism & if boss is of your cast then only you can dream a pramotion or hike. That is a major draw back of this system. Once employee get to know that he is not going to get any pramotion or hike he slow down his work & do not perform. Everybody knows this fact but no one want to hurt anybody because of Vote bank. If boss is from uppercast, he can not put adverse remarks on subordinate's report due to threat of atrocity. Govt. shoul look in to this matter.
in every Pay Commission only financial benefits are discussed so the Pay Commission in India has just remain a periodic offer of salary hike,it always overlooks the labour reforms,the activities for effeciency improvement etc.Will this time be there any steps to improve the quality of govt. services.
RE:Will govt. look at suggestions of the report ?
by Vishy on Mar 24, 2008 02:20 PM Permalink
WELL SAID, logical post after a long time and after a lot of abuse
RE:RE:Will govt. look at suggestions of the report ?
by Roni gavaskar on Mar 24, 2008 02:20 PM Permalink
I dont think so. If Govt don't talk abt PERFORMANCE and Corruption..then why would it ?
RE:Will govt. look at suggestions of the report ?
by sunil pradhan on Mar 24, 2008 02:28 PM Permalink
ya u & ur govt same . babu & neta will be rain prosperious in this nation. good go ahead cheer up !
pls think before sanctioning because you are going to pour funds for those people who do not deserve such benefits simply because private companies pay more to thier employees, they pay more only because they screw them ( FOR 12 HRS)that much in work and get the desired results and outcome if the results were not to thier expectation they simply throw them out --------- can the central govt or state govt do the same since you dont have such guts, shameles fellows you do anything for vote and to retain your ministerial post.
RE:VEry good Central govt - Lazy govt employees earn bonus for non performing and for delayed resluts.
by Rajesh Thakur on Mar 24, 2008 02:33 PM Permalink
hi munni, wht do u think abt urself? who asked u to be screwed day n nite. why dont' u come n join govt. service. u dont have the capa to compete in the selec process conducted by UPSC. do,t think that other don't do their jobs. every one now a days knows that in private org. what people does in late hrs. either try to please the great bosses. chatting with fnd/gfnd. using company phone for chatting with their g fnd. enjoyimg free cofee, snacks, dinner etc... so. its better to look at urself before showing fingure to others. hope u will do justice to that amt of salary u are taking after reading this.
RE:VEry good Central govt - Lazy govt employees earn bonus for non performing and for delayed resluts.
by Bammy on Mar 24, 2008 02:40 PM Permalink
Problem with you guys is that for you every govt. employee is essentially a dealing assistant you see in varoius offices(at least your thought I can guess from your words). Have you ever seen how much a officer level guy works?? and how much they get for that...Have you have any idea about how much a defense personnel, a DRDO scientist, a doctor in remote area works ???It's not only you who works for 12 hrs... FYI, a segment of govt. employees thanklessly work for more than 12 hrs in lieu of stipulated 8 hrs !!! Do not they deserve a salary hike? See, the problem with you pizza, burger guys is that you just speculate and your world is centered around your key boards. Bros, once come out of your high tech arena and see the reality how a govt. employee survives. The major thing govt. employees offer to you is the liability and responsibility. And remember, even a dealing assistant is handling more than a 1000 guys where as you guys are confined to a single domain !!! Do not they deserve more? Have respect for others, Remember, no body wants a 'haram ka roti' unlike you guys who serves for foreign agencies and talk of Indian Govt. and its employees!! Your logic would have been appropiate if you would have been in the system and talked about all these.
RE:VEry good Central govt - Lazy govt employees earn bonus for non performing and for delayed resluts.
by sunil pradhan on Mar 24, 2008 02:51 PM Permalink
yah this is visible in INDIA wht u have done since last 60 yrs.
RE:VEry good Central govt - Lazy govt employees earn bonus for non performing and for delayed resluts.
by Vishy on Mar 24, 2008 02:18 PM Permalink
you are writing this while on work, at the cost of ur employer. Just check whether all of it applies to you. Why dont you see a major or colonel in this chatroom - because most of them are busy on the borders - remeber they are also part of govt. employees. BE SENSETIVE TO DEFENCE, INDIA REMEMBERS THEM ONLY AFTER THEY DIE.
RE:VEry good Central govt - Lazy govt employees earn bonus for non performing and for delayed resluts.
by gangaraju km on Mar 24, 2008 02:29 PM Permalink
good reply thank you sir.
RE:VEry good Central govt - Lazy govt employees earn bonus for non performing and for delayed resluts.
by sunil pradhan on Mar 24, 2008 02:30 PM Permalink
Joker colnel chat at night at home.
The Govt Servants are likely to get a hike of 40%. How will the Govt ensure the output and efficiency is also up by that much. We all know how the Govt offices work. Can the PM give the measures taken by the Govt in this regard to the nation ? I feel the hike should be based on individual performance as in the private sector rather than increase in pay for increas in inefficency and corruption !
RE:Hike in Salary - what about output
by jagdeep on Mar 24, 2008 02:34 PM Permalink
yaar yaha IT firms are saying we wont give more than 10% hike and here govt giving 40% hike.
RE:Hike in Salary - what about output
by siva kesavan on Mar 24, 2008 02:22 PM Permalink
I know how an individual's performance is being appraised in the private sector and nearly 40% of the employees in the private sector add no value to their companies. So please stop complaining about performance and other stuff.
RE:Hike in Salary - what about output
by sunil pradhan on Mar 24, 2008 02:32 PM Permalink
wht r u talking here, go back home & babying with ur misses :D
RE:Pensioners?
by Story editor on Mar 24, 2008 02:22 PM Permalink
Roni my dad is a retired central govt employee...he was curious to know how this would help him.
I could not find anything concrete while googling.
RE:Pensioners?
by siva kesavan on Mar 24, 2008 02:24 PM Permalink
Your current D.A (47% of basic) will be merged with the basic, along with a marginal increase in the basic. And you will be paid 14% of this basic as D.A from Jan 2008.
RE:Pensioners?
by Roni gavaskar on Mar 24, 2008 02:36 PM Permalink
Yes..Nothing reflect the PERFORMACE. It for everyone. You don't need to be a rocket scientist. I have have experienced this beofre with 5th Pay com -
Evrything willcome heavy on common man - That why I suggest performace based culture in Govt..Not calculate whole amount and divide by # of employees.
Just imagine what signal are we giving to corrupt gvt people - A Reward with 40% pay hike
RE:Pensioners?
by Anand YNI on Mar 24, 2008 05:38 PM Permalink
Correction: Read the text as follows:
Hi Roni and Siva,
Why fight with each other?
I am a pensioner since 1995. My total pension from what it was in 1995 has incresed by over six times since then, that is, @ an average of 46% per year. It was fixed at around 300% of the initial basic pension when the benefits of V Pay Commission were announced (wef 01 Jan 1995). Similarly, the rise would be substantial for all including pensioners. Suppose someone is drawing a pension of 10,000 PM, he should get anything from 13000 upwards.
RE:Pensioners?
by Anand YNI on Mar 24, 2008 03:48 PM Permalink
Hi Roni and Siva,
Why fight with each other?
I am a pensioner since 1995. My total pension from what it was in 1995 has incresed by over six times since then, that is, @ an average of 46% per year. It was fixed at around 300% of the initial basic pension when the benefits of V Pay Commission were announced (wef 01 Jan 2006). Similarly, the rise would be substantial for all including pensioners. Suppose someone is drawing a pension of 10,000 PM, he should get anything from 13000 upwards.
RE:Pensioners?
by not from UK on Mar 24, 2008 02:20 PM Permalink
Yes this hike is applicable to pensioners as well. But hike wont be 40% they may get almost 20-30%
RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:Pensioners?
by siva kesavan on Mar 24, 2008 02:31 PM Permalink
The Indian corporates are not bothered about performance and corruption (within their companies) and this being the case why should the pay panel be bothered about it.
