with all the innovations they are doing...why couldn't they figure out the gmail mess ...with all old messages with same subject clustered together in the same mail...it makes it so difficult to understand...i dont know how people are comfortable with that...i dont know what the concept behind that is...beyond me
RE:why dont they do something about gmail....
by Jayatheerthan K on Mar 12, 2008 12:09 AM Permalink
The idea is to keep all mails of the same thread in a stack so that it is easier for you to read / track mails of same thread.. I too felt it too irritating initially, but now got used to it :-)
RE:why dont they do something about gmail....
by prakash bose on Mar 12, 2008 12:42 AM Permalink
i think its wrong...sometimes different messages have same title and same sender...it puts the whole thing out of context...they should atleast give options of two formats and let users chose it as they want....who wants to save messages anyway...
RE:why dont they do something about gmail....
by on Mar 12, 2008 04:45 PM Permalink
people who call gmail a "mess".. they are in a minority and are not it's target audience.. 99% of which is comfortable with the way things are currently... As for separating mails with different content, but same subject... that certainly is an added feature that they could work on.. try dropping them a mail about it.. I'm sure they'll reply.. Instead of resting your lazy bum flaming everybody, get a life.. get moving..
RE:why dont they do something about gmail....
by Subhasish on Mar 12, 2008 08:29 AM Permalink
prakash, you are right in case you are using this for your personal use but mainly it is very useful when people are using it for office or business purpose coz they can have the whole discussion in one shot i mean you dont need to open different email to see the content rather just you need to drag it down.
RE:innovation = patents = IP value of a company
by Krishna Reddy on Mar 14, 2008 12:38 AM Permalink
.. Contd from my prev reply] There are 2 kinds of successful business models:
1) Proprietary model: E.g. Microsoft. This is basically making money by unfairly suppressing/crushing end customers (Microsoft charges about $70 per PC for a stupid Operating system, while Linux gives a much superior OS at free of cost) and stealing other companys' (E.g. Apple) products and patenting them. Microsoft will no longer prosper unless it changes its strategy drastically within next 3 years)
2) Empowering model (Valid esp for media businesses) : E.g. Google. Google makes money by empowering people (End customers/employees/corporate clients/vendors) thru Innovative products like unbiased information(i.e. Search. Google doesn't manually control search results nor does it place its own sponsor sites on top in normal search results), making money by letting people make money(Adsense), allowing sponsors to make money(Adwords), allowing people to creatively express themselves (innovative products like Orkut/Blogger/Picassa/hudreds of free API's/Feeds/iGoogle/Google Gadgets/Google maps etc etc)
So I conclude that
Innovation = Not necessarily num of patents, but also (unpatented) empowering products!
So Google is one of the best innovators of today; Because it is knocking down all the competitors through fairest and most transperant business practices!
Further, I forecast that your "equation" will be totally outdated within next five years!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! especially in this I
RE:RE:innovation = patents = IP value of a company
by shaheed sant on Mar 14, 2008 06:11 PM Permalink
people like you dreaming like that from the last 15 years. but most of the list is 3/4th same. yes google is a good company but that doesn't justify as of now as a top innovator with other companies who are far ahead today. wait and see puttar
RE:innovation = patents = IP value of a company
by Janak Porwal on Mar 13, 2008 12:00 PM Permalink
1) Most of these companies have been there for many for decades, Google is relatively very new (infact I think Googles age is less than 1/2 of any otehr in the list) 2) Googles domain is very specific/restricted as compared to what you have listed. Getting a patent is not very easy in algorithms/software (may not be hard either). Infact, globally, in the area of data-mining (web search etc), I think we wouldn't have patents more than rate of 20/30 per year. I may be wrong but that my guess according to my knowledge of the field.
RE:innovation = patents = IP value of a company
by Sanjay Chawala on Mar 12, 2008 07:07 AM Permalink
why I don't see Qualcomm here??? Qualcomm has much more patents than Broadcomm. This list is either incorrect or it has only considered the companies that participated into their survey.
RE:RE:innovation = patents = IP value of a company
by shaheed sant on Mar 14, 2008 06:14 PM Permalink
puttar see that mentioned list has 35 companies and it's list rolled out by US patents office. so your survey point is incorrect
RE:innovation = patents = IP value of a company
by infi neter on Mar 12, 2008 02:35 AM Permalink
im not interested in google, why no single indian company here? this is not good... i want to see many indian companies here...
RE:innovation = patents = IP value of a company
by vaibhav desai on Mar 12, 2008 09:54 PM Permalink
dude u seem to be from pak... you will have to wait till eternity yet wont find a pak co in the list. poor country...
RE:innovation = patents = IP value of a company
by shaheed sant on Mar 14, 2008 06:00 PM Permalink
do you know anything other than labeling people as pak? talk with some sense puttar
I want to go to pakistan for honeymoon...just to be different from others..but im not sure if there are any hindus there...me and my spouse are very scared..are there any hindus there?
RE:Rules
by chin chin chu on Mar 11, 2008 08:40 PM Permalink
Hello K. Bala. Thanks for your valuable thoughts. its wonderful that you are impressed by that rule. oh my! thats gr8..aint it?
RE:Rules
by K Balasubramanian on Mar 12, 2008 10:05 AM Permalink
Thanks CCC. Impression of rules is not gr8 thing.. gr8 is, u have replied it...making people turnaround towards something,which is really great...
1. Innovation, not instant pefection - A Cathedral and a company bazzar model 2. Ideas come from everywhere - Posting new ideas within the company for others to see and vote 3. A license to pursue your dreams - Employees are allowed to spend 20% of their time in doing pet projects 4. Morphs projects don't kill them - Take the product and morph it into something that the market needs 5. Share as much information as you can - Share information to know whats happening with the business and whats important 6. Users, Users, Users - Focus more on the Users , money will follow 7. Data is apolitical - Test the data and take unbiased decision 8. Creativity loves constraints - Think of all constraints while think of new 9. You're Brilliant , We're Hiring - Found an idea, go to google and have a demo and launch it in six months
RE:Summary
by googlingLife on Mar 11, 2008 01:49 PM Permalink
Thanks for summarizing. I was about to do same thing, but found your post. Thanks a lot again.
Quite inspiring...good to motivate yourself and others..some time I feel that I should have joined google.. When I was in California I used to see Google HQ while driving for lunch..And many times felt the impulse that go and drop my CV..but..somehow couldn't make it a day to go to their office...
RE:Quite inspiring...good to motivate yourself and others..
by Aham Brahmasmi on Mar 11, 2008 09:35 PM Permalink
So were you working as cleaner in a neighboring research lab's head quarter !!!
RE:Quite inspiring...good to motivate yourself and others..
by Vinayak Pandey on Mar 11, 2008 02:23 PM Permalink
Every one wish to ride upon a successful company, so you are no exception. Nevertheless, u hve no reason to regret as long as you have brilent ideas which mke business sense. Google still welcome such people to join them, so does many other compnies.
