Paper worth of all the land in India is 25 times greater than the total amount of money (i.e. M3) in the country. That is how stupid land prices are in India. It is like pyramid scheme. These Idiots have never seen fall in home prices. (I mean even at M3 adjusted per capita).
No wonder land prices in India is higher than USA.
In order to bring industry or develope road/rail net work, we need land a lot of it. No one is going to offer his land/house of his free wiil. So the only thing the companies / railway etc which wants the land must make an offer which people cannot refuse. In all these cases we see the compensation offered is hardly sufficient to shift to a new locality leave alone make a new house. So make the offer which will attract the people to offer(rehabilitation, new houses, jobs etc) their land on their own. Make a law that if a good majority, say 66% agree then the govt should be able aquire the remaining land without any hinderance. The companies buying land should not expect to et it very cheap because the price is going to increase shortly after the factory/rail etc start functioning and hence their worth also goes up.
I think Agriculture land should be bought from farmers at the rate of at least 5 crores for an acre. Only that would a fair price at current real estate prices in India.
In USA, In montana you can buy an acre of land for less than $1,000.
"We could have gone to any other part of the country. But we have gone there and it is for the benefit of West Bengal..."
The West Bengal govt gave you huge surplus land at throw away price. They gave you public money (my money) at 1% interest. You are here for making huge profit, not for the sake of the people of WB.
Re: Whom are you kidding Mr. Ravi Kant?
by ramoo on Aug 31, 2008 02:40 PM Permalink
TATAS HAVE NOT OPENED ANY INDUSTRY IN WEST BENGAL FROM 1868 TILL 2008---- ARE THE BENGALIS BEGGING ON THE STREETS? TATAS HAVE GONE TO ALL STATES BEFORE THEY CAME TO THE BEGGAR LEFT FRON--- THEY TOOK AWAY FERTILE LAND FROMT HE POOR AND GAVE IT AWAY TO THE TATS FREE OF COST - THEY DEVELOPED THE LAND FREE OF COST FOR THEM- THEY GAVE AWAY 650 ACRES OF LAND AT RAJARHAT FOR REAL EXTATE TO MAKE MONEY. IN CASE THE NANO PROJECT FAILS. I HAVE WORKED IN A TATA COMPANY FOR 10 YEARS AND THEY ARE NO PHILANTHROPISTS.
STOP THIS MENDACITY BY THE TATAS AND THE LEFT FRONT. IF TATAS HAVE TO BE GIVEN CONCESSIONS THEN ALL SSI IN WESST BENGAL SHOULD BE GIVEN THE SAME.
BUT THE SSI'S WHICH ARE GIVING MUCH MORE EMPLOYMENT THAN LARGE INDUSTRY IS NEGLECTED SINCE IT DOES NOT HAVE GLAMOUR VALUE.
MAHARASHTRA CANNOT GIVE FERTILE LAND TO ANY INDUSTRIALIST SO MAHA CM'S UTTERANCES ARE JUST THE VOICE OF TATA THRU HIS CHAMCHAS
Out of 1000 acre land for Nano factory, farmers of 150 acre land still did not take money. They are blind supporters of Mamata. Influenced by her party these peolple and some outsiders who doesn?t have land in the factory site are creating problem.
RE:Tata Nano
by S on Jul 31, 2008 06:55 PM Permalink
Dear DYFI/SFI/CPIM guy: The factory needs less than 300 acres. Why 1000 acres were acquired? For Palonji real estate business? How much money did CPIM make out of the deal?
Re: Tata Nano
by ramoo on Aug 31, 2008 02:47 PM Permalink
dear left fron chamcha- your days are numbered- THE WRITING IS ON THE WALL- THE GREAT WALL DIVIDING BERLIN WAS BROKEN DOWN BY THE CITIZENS- NOW THE FARMERS ARE GOING TO SHOW HOW THEY WANT THEIR LAND BACK AND HENCE THE ELECTION RESULTS OF PANCHAYAT- WE DO NOT WANT TTAT CHAMCHAS- FROM 1868 TILL 2008 -140 YEARS THERE HAS BEEN NO TATA COMPANY IN WEST BENGAL EVEN DURING THE HEYDAYS OF BENGAL WHEN IT WAS THE MOST INDUSTRIALISED STATE IN INDIA - SPOILT BY THE LEFT FRONT IN THE SEVENTIES AND NOW GOING DOWN THE DRAIN , BUT FOR THE STEEL FACTYORIES]
IF JINDAL CAN GO TO SALBONI WHY NOT TATA- IF TATA CAN GO TO REMOTE PANTHNAGAR IN UTTARANCHAL WHY NOT SALBONI- THERE IS NO AGITATION IN SALBONI- MAMATA'S MEN AND MAOISTS COULD ALSO HAVE CREATED TROUBLE THERE IF THEY WANTED TO. BUT HOPE THAT PROJECT COMES THRU AND THAT WILL BRING MORE EMPLOYMENT TO WEST BENGAL THAN TATAS NANO - NANO WILL BE A "NUNU" FOR BENGAL
Do consider all factors when u comapare all sort of energy production . Raw material is not the sole consideration. The factors such as maintanance, handling of nuclear waste without any harm to environment , humans and all bio and non bio things in the locality, decommissioning of the facilities etc.
Does anybody thing it is a simple and routine job like in any other chemical plant. All materials exposed to the nuclear material are considered as radiactive waste and treated accordingly.
In case of a war, it is very easy destroy India. Nobody has to drop a nuclear bomb in India, but they just hv to drop a bomb in nuclear plant.
I dont know whether anybody is aware of the fact is that american companies will be involved (they should be, as per the deal) in these projects only if they get a guarantee that these companies will not be responsible for any disasters occuring in these plants & neighbourhoods and they dont have to give any compensation.
Who will be suffering then? Only our people.. if govt. decides do something, then it will be good , otherwise, i dont know.
Why do we welcome such projects even when we had faced disasters like BHOPAL tragedy. Has anybody done anything in favour of those poor people there .
I'm not against the deal, but I am against the nuclear plants in India. We must try other sources of energy. It will be much efficient when we consider all these risks/ fact
We hv seen many protests in various parts of India during the acquisition of land for industrial projects. This happens when the govt. / comapny dont consult the local before they take the decission.
What can a company do is that they can advertise / request for the required land anywhere in India . The panchayat and municipality who can offer the land must be selected. When such request comes, the panchayat and municipalities take initiative to bring the industry to their locality. So it is their choice to give land to the companies and decission is not forced on them.
When we talk about industrialisation, we welcome industries / roads / infrastructure to be built in our state. However if they want our house / plot of land, we protest & strike against them. Or else we r not bothered because it is somebody else house is demolished and they r on th pavement. It is a kind of slefishness. They cannot be blamed because they r kicked out frm place whre they are well settled for decades & they hv to start from sratch in another location.
The only way to solve this issue is to compensate them for their lost properties , to meet the expenses for the relocation etc. The land must be priced at a higher rate than the existing price, because they are sacrificing their well being and others in the locality r benefitting. So they must well compensated. It is a pity that politicans are always behind these companies because they can fill their pockets and never support poor peopl
See China,support pakistan to detruction in india,pakistan china support naxals,khalistan other antiindian government movements in India,even china foreced to remove support by commies ,so india cannot get Nuclear fuel and due to lack of electricity india's growth stops,so as sais by previuous Defense minister china our no. 1 enemy and communist parties of india 2nd enemy,try to understand logic ,even indian so called intelligencehas now supported this theorya as per govt. release.
RE:HOPE NANO TURNS OUT TO BE INDIAN MINI COOPER
by tamil on Jul 31, 2008 03:16 PM Permalink
r u fool to compare mini cooper with nano...if u dont know the mini cooper engineering pls search & find out.. dont compare east & west
W.B facing all his problem due to poor and hopeless opposition.Last 2 yr. the people of bengal get screwed to listen only one stratigies from opposition that either "Nandigram" or "Singur".They didn't find any issue for people of w.b.So many elephant dies every day for hopeless forest dept. of bengal.Bad condition of health in bengal.Every day so many people dies for mis treatment.Opposition r indiferent with that issue...actually they don't know how to give service for people.that is the main reason for W.B testion
RE:Hopeless Opposition
by saktibrata on Jul 31, 2008 01:37 PM Permalink
opposition is rightly espousing the cause of exploited people.It is a bad name for Tata to launch industries at the cost of poor people.I don't understand the outburst of frustrated Ravikant.Tata is facing similar problem in orissa.There is something wrong in the Tata's approach towards industrialisation.
RE:Hopeless Opposition
by S on Jul 31, 2008 06:57 PM Permalink
Due, you are blaming opposition for the failure and misdeeds of government. You can not have it both ways!! Well, unless you are a cadre...
