Why the hell are you all fighting over whether Mumbai or Delhi is the best????
There'll come a time, probably after 10-15 years that each and every corner of India will be developed optimally.
Right now people need to concentrate and discuss on how they can contribute towards ensuring peace and prosperity in their city.
The only difference, I guess, that differentiates us from other developed nations is that rather can discussing the solutions we fight amongst ourselves in blaming one other.
All of us have lots of guts to talk about stuff in this discussion board. But I am sure, no one, including me is ready to take a lead in implementating life changing ideas for the betterment of their respective city(-ies).
When we actally induge in positive discussion, that is when there will a light of hope for some betterment.
Otherwise even after 10 years you will find the same people chatting here over which city is better than what.
Currently, I guess Gujarat and Mumbai tops the chart as far as commerical hubs are concerned, and it has its own reasons. We should try and analyse the reasons and try to implement a model on those lines for better commerical prospects in other cities.
There is sufficient for each and every metro and second-tier city to excel into becoming commerical centres. There needs to be a healthy competition.
The point is undeserving Delhi just because the politicians stay there are getting unlimited funds from the Centre tax funds for developing its infrastructure instead of Mumbai which needs it most right now. Is this fair?
RE:Why this discussion??????
by thebedazzled on Jul 13, 2008 02:51 PM Permalink
Delhi is gets funds from Union Govt. Mumbaikars choose to stikc with Maharashtra. If you need treatment like Delhi, give up this idiotic mentality of stikcing with the state which has all corrupt leaders and be independent Union territory and a state later. It wud help u get funds. Otherwise burn in hell and get drowned in Monsoon :)
Mumbai has long suffered the step motherly treatment from the centre. Despite paying highest income and corporate taxes, Mumbai and Maharashtra have not got fair share back. It is Maharashtra and Gujrat that for long have propped up the other states including Delhi. Delhi is fukat-ch**s getting free money just to prop it up as show case national capital. Delhi-ites are the parasites of India. Maharashtra and Gujrat should secede from rest of India. Atleast the people should demand a larger share of the central fuds. Let Up-Bihar burn and dissolve in their own incopetence.
RE:Mumbai has long been the golden goose
by Terminator on Jul 13, 2008 10:58 AM Permalink
Bhayyas will soon overrun Gujarat and Maharashtra and will become majority. Hindi/Urdu shall rule and Marathi/Gujarati will become the language of maids and servants. Your kids will pride themselves in speaking Hindi/Urdu and not speaking Marathi/Gujarati.
Well everyone has something to say, so do i. i read and found that people believe that DELHI is developing on MUMBAI's money just because its our national capital
Here is the solution........ Declare MUMBAI as INDIA's capital and make it an Union Territory.Nomoney will flow out!!! What say???
well leave financial hub ....NCR has surely emerged as a crime capital especially noida....and capital for corruption at the hands of politicians especially the from the state of UP ....like mayawati and mulayam singh..
as far as thackerays are concerned they are the elected by people of mumbai so no one has a right to deny their credibilty....am opposed to their extreme steps but they have contributed to the developement of the city in a gr8 way...
delhi no way can be a commercial capital...its the mumbai tax which is benefiting delhi ....and as far as corporates are concerned ambanis birlas tatas ...so no other city can match this as they account for almost 40 50 companies under their group....and as far as IT sector is concerned the corporate head quarter of indias largest it company TCS is in mumbai....all big investment banking ,consulting ,insurance ..big banks like icici have their head quartrs in mumbai....delhi can no way match mumbai ...and as far as infrastructure is concerned the metro was direly needed to be implemented first in mumbai but the centre choose the undeserving capital delhi....and the work for metro is atlast started and first pahse getting completed in 2010...too add to this navi mumbai airport and whole lot of sezs in navi mumbai....so prspects of delhi look bleek overatking mumbai even in a century
RE:mumbai is no 1
by ajay nagpal on Jul 13, 2008 04:52 AM Permalink
Tax collection is determined by where the registered office of company is located. Tata produce car and steel in Jharkahnd, make buses in lucknow and darward, all these things are used all over india. But tax gets collected from Mumabi because registered office is there. It does not mean tax belong to mumbai. it is paid by each and every consumer of tata all over india. Come on man..accept that Mumabi is pathetic city and it sucks me every day...I am sure you also take local and pay exorbitant rent for pathetic property..I have not problem in saying that my mumbai is dying every day
Business/Entrepreneurs earn the maximum profit as they take the maximum risk, and these entrepreneurs have chosen and flourished in Mumbai. It is this entrepreneur's profit which is getting taxed.. not the steel from Jharkand. Do not confuse between the two.
It is the callous 'planning era' step-motherly treatment towards Mumbai who have not re-invested the tax money back into Mumbai to support the increasing load of migrants pouring into the city.
RE:mumbai is no 1
by cool guy on Jul 15, 2008 12:38 PM Permalink
marathis always take pride in money of outsiders in mumbai, or tax paid by outsiders in Mumbai
Where are the "son of soil" in mumbai?...they are all drivers, maids, house helps etc....whereas the top brass in Mumbai is from "outside", particularly from north...look at Birlas, Bajajs, Jindals, Naresh Goyals all north Indians..while Ambanis are Gujaratis....Entire Bollywood is run by North Indians be it actors, producers or major production houses
RE:mumbai is no 1
by Pravin on Jul 12, 2008 11:05 PM Permalink
Dude wake up and think rationally... I am proud mumbaikar too but having visited delhi and Noida I can vouch that so called dream of our rural CM to make it Shanghai should be first transformed into making it as good as Delhi in Infra concerns and then we can even think about other places. The only thing in which mumbai wins hands down is security though mob culture has already made it Bihar(if thats the epitome of lawlessness). The taxes which you speak is just because of corporate offices and has nothing to do with Mumbai...I am sorry to state it but thats the fact. Look with statitstical bend and not emotional one.
The article is very true(whether we love to hate it)!!!
RE:WHERE IS RAJ THACKERAY
by milind sabnis on Jul 13, 2008 12:11 PM Permalink
My dear friend, Raj Thackeray is a symptom of the problem, the problem is Centre not developing infrastructure in Mumbai the way it is done in Delhi to change the demographic changing scale of migration of Hindi bhashis into Mumbai.
Whereas most of what you say is true, what you do not say is the fact that for decades, wealth generated in Mumbai was diverted to the worthless Babu town of Delhi, and its NCR neighbours. The north-dominated centre has consistently ill-treated Mumbai, squeezed the life juice out of it to feed the corrupt and bungling North.
It is for this reason that Mumbai is in its present state, and for the same reason that Shiva Sena and MNS exist. It is worth discussing whether the so-called cosmopolitan-ness of Mumbai is not at the cost of the original residents, and therefore worth giving up.
It should be remembered that protectionism is a natural outcome of fear, and is practised in the best of nations, including the USA, examples being quota system on Japanese cars and the dot busters. Rather than patently condemning Shiva Sena (which, by the way, has conveniently given up the Marathi cause for some time now for a vague but more saleable Hindutwa one), it is advisable to do some soul searching and see whether justice and fairness can be said to be practised in a place where the local population percentage constantly dwindles, their language is insulted, they are humiliated and Northies gather in larger numbers each time for Rama Leelas and Chhat Poojas.
RE:Rob Paul to Pay Peter!
by Pravin on Jul 12, 2008 11:08 PM Permalink
Stop your ill-gotten non statistical propaganda... The point you made can very well suit the other way too. Anyways your english suggest decent education, put it to good use and enroll in Teach India initiative to help your so-called locals...
RE:Rob Paul to Pay Peter!
by mallaiah anchoori on Jul 13, 2008 03:21 AM Permalink
Mr Pravin! Anand's English is perfect and certainly flawless unlike yours which needs to be improved a lot.What Anand said is absolutely correct excepting that the approach of Siva Sena which will be detested by all right thinking & law abiding citizens needs to be changed for better-to convince others in a polite but assertive way without resorting to violence and harassment of outside state people.
With the maximum no of rape cases and crime against women, Delhi is no doubt the rape capital of India. Women don't dare to go out alone after 7Pm. The Delhi govt needs to work on improving security before dreaming of becoming the commercial capital.
RE:Delhi is not commercial capital, but rape capital.
by jay b on Jul 12, 2008 08:45 PM Permalink
It is definitely not a good thing in Delhi, but overall i would say with the 60% slums,poor quality of transportation,old sewage system and above all lack of significant interest on part of state government to improve things (due to vote banks in rest of state), mumbai has a low quality of life.
Like US or for that matter any big country We should have proper distribution of development be it factories,private and public sector offices,banking,... in atleast 50 to 100 cities throughout india. This would not only reduce burden of overcrowding in big cities like mumbai,bangalore,delhi,... but also contribute to overall development .
Its also the filth bowl of India. I dont call it development, when people dont even have good air to breathe, clean water to drink. Unfortunately, we feel that all these things make up a great city. Most unfortunately, we still dont have a National Policy which curbs unchecked growth of any city, which then means, pollution, slums, filth, rat race for survival, roads turning into rivers. Its time we have a policy which call for a population cap per square km of any city. Cities like Chandigarh should be adopted instead of saying that the whole of India should settle in filth bowls like Bombay, Calcutta and Madras. Even Blore is slowly becoming one...just wait till all those high rise apartments are occupied. What a country needs is all round, all region development instead of one or two cities getting overcrowded and being called commercial capitals, in fact they are also garbage, slum and filth bowls.
RE:Filth Bowl of India....
by Ankur Goyal on Jul 12, 2008 08:02 PM Permalink
kichad mein hi kamal khilta hai dost .. jis din tujhe yeh baat samajh aajayegi tu bhi yahan aajayega
RE:Filth Bowl of India....
by Sharad on Jul 13, 2008 12:24 AM Permalink
So what. Just because there is a kamal in kichad, do u want to live in kichad? Fancy poetic words do not mean a thing. Kichad is kichad.
