So what is your plan of action? Complaining and cursing is easy. Any thambhi Dagdu Hari who has mouth and can vocalize can do it. You are a classic fence sitter mentality case, stand on the sideline and bark on other. I just want to know what have you done so far other than telling everyone what to do? Problem in India is people like you who talk big but when it comes to getting your work done you will fall on the feet of Sharad Pawar, Lalu yadav etc. Why talk be like Anna Hazare who fights against corruption, or be like arvind kejriwal who won Magsaysay award for bringing RTI act to fight against Govt. inefficiency. I agree India sucks big time in many dept... but it could because of all sound no action people like you.
Indian supercomputer - Has hardware from HP and NEC how the hell can it be indigenous? Indian rockets - Components from abroad Indian PC - Processors from abroad Indian fighter - Engine itself from USA Indian metro train - boogies from Korea, other tech from Japan Indian software industry - Not product but servicing western companies. Indian car Nano - Designed in IDEA Italy just like all other tata cars, Fuel injection in engine by Bosch Germany Indian movies - 90% copied by some obscure foreign movie, scene by scene copy Indian cellphones - Dont exist. Indian talent - Huge in number coolie in services Indian Railways - No change from British era. They will develop only when they get bullet trains from Japan or Korea. Indian drugs - Cheap generic copies of International drugs which go off patent. No new drug developed by India. All they can do is copy an already existing drug Indian commercial or military airplane - Dont exist on the world scale. Saras also failed in marketing in India itself. Indian people - Chalta hai attitude.
RE:So called Indian brain and THESE POOR results ?
by Sachin on Jul 03, 2008 03:55 AM Permalink
Think you're missing the whole point of globalization...as long as a product can be made efficiently available at a low cost to masses, how does it matter where the parts are produced from...name one automobile company which manufactures each and every component in-house. Is there any PC company which makes its own processors?? Indians are known for their resourcefullness, and in this ever evolving world with sky-rocketing inflation and western recession, keeping a sustainable low cost output it by itself a commendable feat!
RE:So called Indian brain and THESE POOR results ?
by Rajesh Shetty on Jul 02, 2008 09:17 PM Permalink
I agree Mr. Annu Malik, that we have not given anything significant to this world from the past 200 yrs, in which U.S has given so much. While agreeing cent percent that what u r saying is true, you should also agree that this present Indian status is bcos of our 'slave mentality' that we practiced over the yrs. Only fascination abt everything American is not going to bring abt changes in our country. From ages we were looted by external aggressors bcos we were not united. So poverty and population have become the biggest hurdles in our growth. And even though things are changing, we still have a long way to go. 5000 yrs ago we gave the world zero, astronomy and so many ancient marvels. But we did not propagate this knowledge amongst ourselves. So this crab mentality proved to be our downfall. So today we are neither basking in Indian glory nor Western. And our govts have not invested much nor encouraged scientists, so we have not produced many good ones. And remembers all those IIT'S which came out from our stables, they only complained abt India, did nothing here, and packed off to U.S. They forgot that IIT was bcos of Indian's tax payer's money. When talented people just turn their back to the nation, it can hardly produce good results. So we have to be satisfied with Sameer Bhatia's, or Narayan Murthy's
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by ln mishra on Jul 02, 2008 06:06 PM Permalink
Who can guarantee of this product called "ANNU MALLIK"?????? CAn anyone give any brief description on manufacture of this product?????? is it also a JV with any foreign soil????
RE:So called Indian brain and THESE POOR results ?
by Annu Malik on Jul 02, 2008 03:08 AM Permalink
Indians are not TOP in INCOME either .
see data source US census factfinder.census.gov, check it peabrain -
1 Alsatian 43417 2 Austrian 38697 3 Luxembourgers 34106 4 British 33891 5 Israeli 33242 6 Australian 32865 7 Scottish 32228 8 Welsh 30867 9 Iranian 30143 10 Japanese 30075 11 Basque 29089 12 English 28854 13 Danish 27648 14 Indian 27514
US per capita income for foreign born workers
Citizens of the following countries in the US -
1 Luxembourg 47,412 2 South Africa 44,318 3 New Zealand 41,676 4 Switzerland 41,421 5 Denmark 41,137 6 United Kingdom 39,279 7 Netherlands 39,011 8 Israel 39,004 9 Austria 38,394 10 Belgium 38,249 11 Norway 38,049 12 Malawi 37,436 13 Iran 37,394 14 India 36,937
Indians #14 and that is when only highly qualified B Tech and BE are allowed in to the US still Indians rank #14, pretty low, either they are lower paid or just cheap slaves, no high end achievers in their disciplines.
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by Guest on Jul 02, 2008 03:38 AM Permalink
As most of the readers of this forum have asked you what is the logic behind these numbers you are throwing. Instead of having a logical and healthy debate if you want to abuse and you filthy language please go ahead. Also you have to still answer what have you done for your country? and can you name one significant invention done by US folks in recent times?
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by Annu Malik on Jul 02, 2008 03:46 AM Permalink
I will tell just one from 2006 - 2006 Cervical Cancer Vaccine
University of Louisville researchers discover the world's first ever cancer vaccine. It is estimated to save millions of women's lives annually throughout the world.
Besides all modern stuff we take for granted has its roots in the US inventions from 1940-2006 like Integrated circuits, transistors, operating system, oral contraceptives, laser, calculator, polio vaccine, nuclear submarines, heart lung machine, carbon dating, aeroplanes, internet, supercomputers, computer languages micro oven, photocopier, frozen foods, oil wells, revolver, optical fibers, hubble telescope in space, stem cell line and mapping of the ENTIRE HUMAN GENES, -- -- all invented in the USA !
USA inventions have changed the world like never in the history of humankind ever before !
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by Guest on Jul 02, 2008 04:07 AM Permalink
All the stuff you have written was sure invented/discovered in US. But how much of these stuff was invented/discovered by folks from US. Did all the research teams were made of Americans? I hope You have heard of Aryabhatt, Jagadish Chandra Bose.The number Zero, deciamal, geometry, Astronomy were originated from India.
Also you forgot one great invention US gave to the world - Atom Bomb
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by Annu Malik on Jul 02, 2008 04:13 AM Permalink
They sure were NOT from India or your lovely Pakistan.
Indian invented ZERO then what happened for 5000 years , went to sleep ? and every tom dick and harry enslaved you !
While US changed the world more in only 200 years than rest of the 5000 years taken together ! air travel became so common place, electricity bulb lightening your nights, internet connecting you to everyone else in the world ! so apparently US changed world more than India ever could.
What has Indian IT industry that is sitting on 40 billion dollar CASH invented in the last ten years ? any new computer language ? any new Internet protocol ? any new computer website searching concept ? ANYTHING ????????
besides what is the bloody economy of India ? 1% of the world or is it 0.7% ?
what is share of your IT industry in world IT market, is it 1% or 2% ?
What is share of your exports in world exports ? it is 0.7%
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by Guest on Jul 02, 2008 04:36 AM Permalink
There is no point comparing apples to oranges. As you have written India invented ZERO 5000 years back, where was US 5000 years back. From your talks one thing is for sure that you are not a Indian, as no Indian will use this kind of language against their motherland. You might be one of those unlucky guys whose job was taken away and outsourced. If so I can understand your frustration. I would prey to God to give you peace of mind.
RE:So called Indian brain and THESE POOR results ?
by Annu Malik on Jul 02, 2008 04:41 AM Permalink
I am right in so called capital of India, but i prefer facts to fiction and stupid unsupported rhetorics.
I was just breaking down the urban myths that even most educated lot of ours believe it without cross checking.
RE:So called Indian brain and THESE POOR results ?
by prabhat mishra on Jul 02, 2008 11:22 PM Permalink
ANNU , your point or observation are right , i remeber a sean from SWADESH - when sharukh khan spoke - we always behind HAM AMAHAN HAI , HAMARI CULTURE HAMARI SANSKRITI MAHAN HAI . we always accuse west and and hide our shortcoming behind our so called superiority .
No doubt India was a great civilisation - but it was - it was fountainhead of all the world knowledge and riches - "it was" .
SO i can understand the anguish of annu ,
what it is now is more important - and every civilisation see its ups and down - once indian were at their peaks but no doubt we are at the bottom now.
How we are great when even today 60 million children sleep without food and hunger galore all around us and we indian vote on CASTE and religion basis and elect Corrupt and scoundral politician .
Every Big indian politician is worth Nothing less than Billion dollor in ASSET - Just name them - ? PAWAR , MULAYAM , LALU , KARUNANIDHI , ARJUN SINGH , SONIA , etc etc .
But DEAR ANNU at the end we have to bring the change .
I like your view mail me on prabhat_shcil@rediffmail.com
RE:So called Indian brain and THESE POOR results ?
by Rajendra Rao on Jul 02, 2008 03:23 AM Permalink
What is with the stats? Your point? Are you a Paki idiot?
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by Rajendra Rao on Jul 02, 2008 03:26 AM Permalink
I looked up the origin of the word 'Malik' = The term Malik is used in Afghanistan and the tribal areas of Pakistan, especially among Pashtuns.
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by Guest on Jul 02, 2008 03:06 AM Permalink
Well that makes you an IDIOT too unless you have a Indian name. As of your point of US inventing and designing, can you name one significant invention done by US folks in recent times. I hope you have heard of Sabeer Bhatia - cofounder Hotmail, Vinod Khosla - Cisco, Laxmi Mittal etc.
Also since you have so many issues with INDIA, what have you done for it.
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by Annu Malik on Jul 02, 2008 03:09 AM Permalink
Idiot what did these people INVENT ? email was NOT invented by Sabeer Bhatia , nor did Vinod Khosla invent anything of significant to the world.
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by Annu Malik on Jul 02, 2008 03:10 AM Permalink
Laxmii Mitta haha ha what a moron what did he INVENT ??? a bania who HATES to even call his company Indian . remem ber what hsi son said, we are not an INDIAN company !
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by Annu Malik on Jul 02, 2008 03:19 AM Permalink
AMERICANS have won 61 Nobel Prizes in the last 10 years !!
just imagine and guess what not even a SINGLE person is anything Indian even remotely !
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by chetan verma on Jul 02, 2008 05:29 AM Permalink
Let us be all world citizens and stop this chain..!! Doesnt matter who think what of Indians.. the point is - world is a huge place, and every person has got his/her own importance. Annu - Request you to behave humane. Peace..!! Live and let live..!!
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by Rajendra Rao on Jul 02, 2008 07:44 AM Permalink
Thanks Verma- You are right, of course. No use debating people who bad mouth India and Indians. We know who we are, wherever we may be living on this planet. As far as I know, the educated circles in Northeastern USA (I am most familiar with) have nothing but high regard for us Indian. That is good enough for me.
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by Annu Malik on Jul 02, 2008 11:49 AM Permalink
what else can I say but you are a dirty FROG in a WELL !
what did i bad mouth indians i just told the TRUTH, you are neighther most highly paid nor are you anything like genius invetors but CHEAP brown expendable slaves of your white masters, that's why YOU instead of working is a delhi or chennai, go to serve USA and NOT vice versa !
whoa rajendra rao, so you accept you live AND surrounded yourself with desi moronic ghettotized existance living away from India and behaving like most patriotic person !
Thanks for the public admission of your pathetic ghettotized existance Mr Rao !
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by Rajendra Rao on Jul 03, 2008 03:16 AM Permalink
Here is my last word for you pathetic excuse for a Simian (I mean Malik)! I see that you are desperate, and having nothing better to do in Hot Delhi, crap on Indians! Looks like you dink around on a key board all day long. For your information, We Indians run most everything in USA, from research labs to technology sectors. let me know when you are coming this way, it may be worthwhile to educate people like you. But then, low lives like you can't be up-lifted. I tried.
RE:indian
by Rajendra Rao on Jul 01, 2008 10:48 PM Permalink
It is quite simple- This guy never built even one sky-scapper. Rotating building indeed- the building will be unsafe for human occupation.It is a pipe dream.
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by Annu Malik on Jul 01, 2008 10:54 PM Permalink
You are an idiot unable to comprehend the dynamics of why brown trash are used as slaves in US companies while others enjoy their weekends !
Indians are similarly used as slaves in middle east to build their 150 storeys buildings ! arabs treat you like trash as well ! dont you know ?
Do you see mass migrations from ANY other country of the world other than third world India to outside ? It is Indians who are desperate to get OUT not Americans out of America, you fool how naive you are !
RE:indian
by Rajendra Rao on Jul 01, 2008 11:10 PM Permalink
Where exactly are you located, you Annu Malik pathetic dude? I am in Boston, and am associated with one of the Ivy's here. Do you want me to name the big Hindu Indian names on the campuses of MIT, Harvard, Brandeis, BU, Tufts, U-Mass medical, Brown, Yale, U-Conn, etc?
If you are living in USA- You will note: the idiots who are invading USA now are catholics from Central and south America- most can't speak English, lot are illegal, and many are criminals. The counrty is going downhill due to this catholic idiots.Are you one of them?
Regarding 'fitting'in the society or not, I don;t think that is important. regarding whether whites recognize us or not, it does not matter, it is for simpletons like you who are lapdogs of whites.
Mass migration? Most who are coming here are mooslems from MidleEast- and Central andSouth America. After 35 years of migration, Indian population in USA is about 1-2%, compared to 7% mooslems-
You are most likely a converted dog- go breed with low IQ converts. Who knows?- sudden mutation and presto, your off-spring may even climb a tree.
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by Annu Malik on Jul 01, 2008 11:13 PM Permalink
yes idiot NAME the Indian names in Harvard MIT U MAss with LINK please.
Provide ANY link that shows that 50% of scientists , staff, or key inventors in A SINGLE FIELD are INDIANS . can you do it ? talking BS blah blah blah your nonsense.
You probably live in some brown trashy desi ghetto who seens Indians all around spitting paan and chewing tobacco somewhere in deep shit alley in boston.
RE:indian
by Rajendra Rao on Jul 02, 2008 02:23 AM Permalink
Dude- you can come and live in the dog house we have in the back yard. Anytime!
As for the Indian faculties/ scientists, etc- just get on the web and look around on the various university web pages. Why should I waste my time with idiots like you?
RE:indian
by Rajendra Rao on Jul 01, 2008 10:47 PM Permalink
Annu Malik- Another converted xtain or mooselem. If USA has 300 Nobels, how come they need so many Indians to run their universities, research labs, industries? How come you idiot? The highest per capita income, and the highest educated house-holds in USA happens to be Hindus. Go figure that out with 5 neurons you are born with, you pathetic simian buffoon!
RE:indian
by Annu Malik on Jul 01, 2008 10:52 PM Permalink
They are IDIOTS still, because only highly qualified Indians are allowed in to USA. Heavy screening If average tom dick and harry would have been alowed in to USA, they would fail there.
If Indians dont work hard like brown slaves, they will be thrown OUT !!!
Indians are not wanted in the USA social circles and have to stay isolated. No one likes them other than for their hard work and slavish mentality, No one Not even blacks, hispanics and whites. And how stupid it is for you to take pride in runaway slaves, who instaed of improving their third world trashpot come to USA to work for them as their indentured slaves !
it is a saying in american an india has to be thrice as good and work thrice as hard as a common american to command a basic justification of him being in america, otherwise doors are open to get OUT !
RE:indian
by Ron on Jul 02, 2008 02:38 PM Permalink
I guess even we in India do the same moron!!!.. by the way all i can guess is when a white man will come to see u, u will be drinking his piss and eating his shit.. way to go.. enjoy that.. and if u have any guts to continue on this blog and debate with me ANSWER few simple questions for me
1 . who the hell are you 2 . Which country u belong to. 3. if u belong to India, what have u done for India.
Till you dont answer it. keep your trap shut. ofcource if you understand what i have written, uneducated PIG
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by Annu Malik on Jul 02, 2008 02:50 PM Permalink
mtrfkr Ron, idiot India is considered a TRASH country you troll. White man dont want to live in your trashy country at all, how did you suppose, it is INDIANS line up at embassies of even small countries like Kuwait who again treat them like SLAVES not Americans.
Ask any Chinese, Japanese, or Korean if, given choice, he or she would choose to work and live in India, which is akin to being handled the death sentence. This theme has been conveyed to the public time and again in Japanese and Korean soap operas. Why, there are millions of reasons, one of them being that Indian cities are just big garbage dumps with NOT drinkable water.
The westerners like visiting India for two reasons. One is that India used to be ruled by the Brits and spending a few days in the old colony brings back fond memories. The other is that India is so backward that visiting the country and seeing the apparent poverty make those backpackers feel really good about themselves.
Got it you PEABRAIN who LACKS intellectual capacity to argue.
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by Annu Malik on Jul 02, 2008 02:59 PM Permalink
he you moron, no white wants to live in your trashy country India, what made you assume that you foolish fellow ? It is indians who line up madly outside embassies even of small countries like Kuwait and then again treated like indentured servants and slaves everywhere or cheap labour.
Ask any Chinese, Japanese, or Korean if, given choice, he or she would choose to work and live in India, which is akin to being handled the death sentence. This theme has been conveyed to the public time and again in Japanese and Korean soap operas. Why, there are millions of reasons, one of them being that Indian cities are just big garbage dumps with NOT drinkable water.
The westerners like visiting India for two reasons. One is that India used to be ruled by the Brits and spending a few days in the old colony brings back fond memories. The other is that India is so backward that visiting the country and seeing the apparent poverty make those backpackers feel really good about themselves.
now I am sure your peabrain brain and lack of intellectual capacity will NOT understand what I have all written. Good luck Ron ---
RE:indian
by Shiv Dholakia on Jul 02, 2008 08:57 AM Permalink
you know why India doesn't grow? it is because of the loser mentality and poverty conscious attitude that you have here.
i see so much hatred in these conversations within the same country men that it appalls me. a country can never grow if its citizens don't work together in harmony. the conversations between you all appear very childish and immature to me. pls grow up.
and this is coming from an indian who loves both india, america and everyone else equally. there is no such thing as whites, browns, blacks, americans, hispanics, indians etc. they are just people who grew up differently in separate cultures.
for indian in america or india, you should forget that you lived among the hindus and don't adopt all the ways of the americans. but learn to love, live and work with your brothers that are scattered all across the world.
The whole world is in a big need of Gasoline. If the price of it increases, it even increases the price of condom. Every other new invention is cheap when compared to the replacement of gasoline.
RE:Please invent or discover something that replaces petrol
by ambrish lulla on Jul 01, 2008 07:10 PM Permalink
if u read the article completely you will see it works on the concept of air turbines a totaly natural principle not requiring any gasolone.
