Politicians are not interested to maintain prosperity or law and order situation. They are roaming here and there to collect bribes and make programme for next election result. Loot is everywhere.
by Sahadevan KK on Apr 12, 2008 11:43 AM Permalink | Hide replies
Politicians are not interested to maintain prosperity or law and order situation. They are roaming here and there to collect bribes and make programme for next election result. Loot is everywhere.
RE:Politicians are not interested to maintain prosperity or law and order situation. They are roaming here and there to collect bribes and make programme for next election result. Loot is everywhere.
by nicegem on Apr 12, 2008 11:55 AM Permalink
Don't sidetrack gentleman
never trust a mutual fund manager!He too works for a broker or financial comapny!and these so called fund mangers are not held responsible if investors loose money!Can u register a case against a fund manger if u loose moneyin MF!In fact they use the People money which is in billions and manipulate the stock rates and aslo Market!as they know that such and such stock is to be manipulated they themselves and their family membvers use the fact and make profits!Untill and unless a Fund Manager is punished for not giving atleat 50% profit he should be sacked and put in jail!do not tell that stock markets are risky!if so then do not asl for public to put monry in MF!these MF houses even control TV channells who only talk about shares which are to be manipulated and general investor to be fooled!These so calles TV analysts are agent /dalal for brokers and operators and only provide Peudo nalysis to further the interst of Brokers and Operators!
Contrary to what Mutual Fund Claim, they are the Worse Performers in a Stagnant Market. They would show the performance for last 5 years to lure Investors, but the fact remains Average of all Shares in thier Portfolio would out perform Mutual Fund by about 4 - 5 % Points per year. Watch out Mutual Funds are here to do business at your expense. When you but stock all you pay is .5 % Plus taxes which is one time investment. But For Mutual Funds you are paying entry load of about 2 % Plus yearly management charges of 2 % plus exit load plus all the other charges incured by the fund. Ever Wondered whose money they are paying when people in mutual funds show thier 7 figure salaries.... Its yr money folks.... Personal Example i had invested in 3 different funds ELSS scheme 2 years back, which is supposedly the safest and am getting negative returns in all three. Where as stock market even after all the Volatality is up by about 15 % from when i have invested. Be Wise....
My understanding is that mutual funds will be good for investors with low risk taking capacity and stocks may be suitable to other groups with knowledge of some essential money matters and enough time and money to spare.
I find mutual funds from reputed groups with suitable people managing them are rewarding the investors reasonably.
RE:Best course
by G P Sahu on Apr 12, 2008 11:31 AM Permalink
But I think level of risk is similar in MF as well, becuase risk is related to underlying instruments, ie the stock. Only plus point is MF's are managed by professional and experts, who track market and stocks closely, so can take a buy or sell decision early, which is not possible for ordinary investor due to lack of skill and time. But we must remember, in MFs, we need to pay a hefty amount to these managers and experts as salary and commission, from earnings of our investments, which other wise could be ours. So people with enough knowledge and time, can invest directly and can develop a well diversified portfolio to reduce risk.
RE:Best course
by nicegem on Apr 12, 2008 11:53 AM Permalink
Yes Yes, they sit pretty tight, don't do any thing, can't predict anything , but take their fees withour fail, and come on, they can be called as professionals because they can loot others this way. I simply call them gamblers.They are gambling because you can't do that on your own.
Even the best analyst on the TVShows puts a very brave face while predicting the trends.What a bunch of fools! I watch them whenever I want to relax like watching a comedy show. It never gave any serious idea of what should be done, as far as retain investors are supposed to do.It is funny that they will follow the Sensex Curve, euphoric or not.Whatever they do, they just recommend a scrip or the other which will never behave as per their predictions. Did you observed BHEL? How many of the analysts predicted that it can go down to 1600? Two Months ago everyone was talking about 3000 levels for BHEL .And One more joke they play is "investors are advised only to enter with a long term perspective". Once Udayan Mukherjee was openly admiting that he holds no scripts, but if he is an investor, he will go and shop for some blue chip Cos when the Sensex was 18000 levels. I don't know what he will be suggesting these days. Then there is a regular feature of anlysts predicting this and that but only exchanging words. That they suggest Supports as well as Resistances but neither will work out for the scrips they mention. Again take the case of BHEL they said(Even Karvy recommended)it is a buy at 2000 levels and it has support at 1800. But it gone down to 1600 levels...... It is really funny that they call them ANALYSTS
RE:Stocks Vs MFs
by nicegem on Apr 12, 2008 11:30 AM Permalink
Then they call it Research. Even the people who promoted Mutual Funds are now dumb, really dumb with what the January levels to compare with and the present position. Do you know what they will say now? All equity diversified funds have not performed well in the First Quarter, we have to wait and see how they will behave in the next quarter. This is the kind of Research.Forget it.Now they asay even MFs are not safe. They will promote ETFs, Debt Funds.... But once they show their (in)Capability to meet the expectations, then they say after all the inflation is too high, that is the reason why.....
RE:RE:Stocks Vs MFs
by nicegem on Apr 12, 2008 11:38 AM Permalink
It is very simple, someone already suggested this on rediff. 1. You can't predict any behaviour of any scrip as exactly as it goes. 2. You should overcome the greed for more returns within short period. 3. Even the SIP route boasted by many Financial wizards will not wor out because of reason 1 mentioned above. 4. Your fund manager is not a demi-God, or nicknamed Midaas, to make your 100 bucks into 1000, overnight. 5. He is afterall just like you , don't know what to do, where to invest, how to save, and especially how to earn with genuine work. 6. Afterall he is a human being
RE:Stocks Vs MFs
by mahabodhi on Apr 12, 2008 11:35 AM Permalink
Fund managers are DALAL of brokers /operarors and Tv channell Anylysts are only giving false and pseudo intelligence cover to help further the interst of brokers and operators!
RE:RE:Stocks Vs MFs
by nicegem on Apr 12, 2008 11:43 AM Permalink
You are right, they are even able to manipulate. I was closely watching another scrip when they suggested a SELL, it Rised monumentally. Then Udayan said " There was a surprise Rally in this so and so scrip and the reasons are yet to be ascertained....
RE:Stocks Vs MFs
by G P Sahu on Apr 12, 2008 11:35 AM Permalink
Technical analysis is like Astrology, hardly ever can predict succesfully, despite that which hv a market and followers. So you can consider these business chaneels as shows of regular channels, where astrologer of various size, color and flavor, pronounce, how would be ur day today.
