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Look for trust worthy people
by amarsahu on Jul 23, 2007 06:45 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

I would suggest these companies to those people who are really hard working and trustworthy. The fact is brilliant people always look for a change. Bottom line is the consistency of an individual with a paricular firm.

Amar Sahu
CEDT@IISc

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RE:Look for trust worthy people
by Narad on Jul 23, 2007 06:49 PM  Permalink
Honesty is a fair weather crop, as for Indian IT cos history their creativity starts & ends with RAMCO ERP & Gupta SQL, that is decade old story.

Rest are body shoppers, I dont know colloquil language if any, for them employee is a commodity of export.



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Everybody is just ignoring the major culprit behind this scene.
by dddelhi on Jul 23, 2007 06:43 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

Everybody is just ignoring the major culprit behind this scene.

and to the utter astonishment, it is our own government.

1. IT Guys are salary paid.
2. They pay the highest tax in comparision of any employee within any industry
3. Their salary is totally transparent.
4. Tax is deducted from the source it self.
5. Now more the salary, more tax you will pay.
6. Taxation policies are defined in such a way, that whatever highest salary you will get, in the end you get nothing
7. Business class alwaus enjoys loopholes in this policy
8. They simply do heraferi and saves lots of tax
9. Along with this, Government officials and leaders are enjoying our money
10. So any IT employee changes the organization in search of better payscale, money and facilities, there is no harm.

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RE:Everybody is just ignoring the major culprit behind this scene.
by Indian Citizen on Jul 23, 2007 07:06 PM  Permalink
2. They pay the highest tax in comparision of any employee within any industry ... :))

do u even know how much tax oilfield guys pay?? it will increase ur pay..

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RE:Everybody is just ignoring the major culprit behind this scene.
by dddelhi on Jul 23, 2007 07:19 PM  Permalink
do you know how many oilfield employees are there in our country?

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dont worry be ha``p`pY
by bkpaneesh on Jul 23, 2007 06:32 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

DONT WORRY ABOUT ALL THESE THINGS . I HAVE RECENTLY JOINED INFY !!!!

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RE:dont worry be ha``p`pY
by Narad on Jul 23, 2007 06:33 PM  Permalink
I guess infy also means one divided by zero

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RE:dont worry be ha``p`pY
by bkpaneesh on Jul 23, 2007 06:54 PM  Permalink
well said sir

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No Wonder...
by Tipitipitiptop on Jul 23, 2007 06:19 PM  Permalink 

This is bound to happen.. and if Infy keeps on spreading rumours of Capgemini acquisition; soon it will run out of resources, cash and everthing...

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RE:No wonder why wipro attrition rate is high.. see this email,
by Rajesh Anantharaman on Jul 23, 2007 07:11 PM  Permalink
the mail content worries me more than that, especially coming from a manager and a tech manager at that whom the other actually mature industries look at as comm savvy. Comm skills or kills is something that wwe need to really worry about

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Attrition shows high growth potential
by Anuranjan Mohnot on Jul 23, 2007 06:14 PM  Permalink 

Only a vibrant industry can have high attrition rate...this is good sign for all industry or employee...



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Test
by Mani Kumar on Jul 23, 2007 06:09 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

Test

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RE:Test
by Asoka The Brat on Jul 23, 2007 06:13 PM  Permalink
test falied

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RE:no doubt why attrition is high in wipro...if u see this mail.
by RealDavid Johnson on Jul 23, 2007 06:08 PM  Permalink
Manager FOR A Technical Workforce.

EXTINCT in India!!

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RE:RE:no doubt why attrition is high in wipro...if u see this mail.
by RealDavid Johnson on Jul 23, 2007 06:09 PM  Permalink
It never was present ever. Just a bunch of fakes.

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Reality bites
by Jingaru Jingla on Jul 23, 2007 06:03 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

For years, these companies survived on tax concession, easy body shopping money and all other benefints associated with sunrise industry. These comapnies failed to move up the value chain by branching out into procuct development despite having huge pile of cash reserves with them. Instead they choose to branch move down the value chain by opening up BPOs.

This is really hard test ahead for preachers (read Narayan Murthy) who, although is a OK enterpreneuer, but overestimates himeself and thinks he is the greatest technocrat.

He is just running a bodyshopping company.

A poor person from bihar goest to punjab to earn a living. He is definitly better than his fellow biharis who due to many reasons could not go to punjab. Now he can tell others that he is a great employee and therefore he gets money from his employer from punjab.

Infosys and Narayan Murthy are not different.

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RE:Reality bites
by on Jul 23, 2007 06:58 PM  Permalink
Jingaru's observations regarding these large essentially body shopping Indian IT companies like Infosys are very correct. I could not agree more. Though these companies made huge profits running businesses of selling bodies for a period of 30 years or more, they could not move up the value chain and produce a single world beater software technology or product. Because their investment in research and development has been almost nothing. Pity on them!

B. L. Sharma

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RE:Reality bites
by Yuppie Indian on Jul 23, 2007 06:14 PM  Permalink
You have got it spot on. Couldnt be more true..
It these desi biggies would have done some good products there could be another picture today.

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RE:Reality bites
by sachin netrabyle on Jul 23, 2007 06:23 PM  Permalink
Hi Jingaru Jingle

Seems came from jungle of Bihar.

Why you are so angry on Narayan Murthy. Atleast he has done some thing to the nation & given jobs to thousands of people. Also lot of things to Bangalore development.

I think you didn't got job in Infosys or interviewed, that's why you used so useless words to ikon stature like Mr.Narayan Murthy.

I am not a software related person, but I admire Mr.NM, because of his ability to perform.



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RE:Reality bites
by Jingaru Jingla on Jul 23, 2007 06:28 PM  Permalink
Dear Sachin,

Don't worry about me. Infosys is well below my standard. My salary is 4 times more than what infosys could afford to give me.

Anyway, I am not saying infosys hasn't done anything. What I am saying is NRN is no big technocrat as he wants everyone to believe. Even an average "Bidi company" can have huge profit margin by exploiting poor illiterate labourers. Infosys is just a sophisticated version of that.

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RE:Reality bites
by tiger on Jul 23, 2007 06:43 PM  Permalink
Your posting shows that you are worse than the poor person of Bihar who goes to Punjab.
U must have got job through some references.

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RE:Reality bites
by soumya mukherjee on Jul 23, 2007 06:37 PM  Permalink
Absolutely spot on ...
But I would rather say TCS is even worse. TCS and Microsoft incorporated almost period. Where is MS and where is TCS

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