When we praise and loud for IItians.. where do they deliver?.. where do we have a global brand with these brain drain?.. do we have a microsoft or dell or ibm kind of brand or do we have a boying or airbus? where do we have yahoo or google? or do we have any GM or Toyota?.. are we having any NOkia or Motorolla?.. Do we have any brand name like GE or atleast Samsung,LG?.. these are not done by IItians.. then what the use of IItians?.. where is there brain?.. let them build some big brand made in India then we call it as made by IItains?.. if they are working for some companies in any post that doesnt represent anything bigger for India?.. many other fellows are working in bigger post who are not studied in IIT..
Do something in engineering, medicine or airospace for leading globally then praise of IIT. they r like other college drop-outs without anything extra apart from they may get better jobs. Look at china., the way the build toys it may not be bigger names but they build a to z in toys and sell around the corner of Earth with made in china brand.
Guys sit together and think of building something by your own which can lead the world.. then we praise it is because of IIT.
The very title "IITians have world before them" speaks how heavy the head is. Thank God, the news was not titled "IITians wearing T Shirts have world in their pocket". Recent Headlines hogger BITS Alum Subodh Karnik, is all set to become President and chief Executive of ATA Airlines from January 1, 2007. Karnik follows in the path of Rono Dutta and Rakesh Gangwal, both alumni of the Indian Institute of Technology (IIT), who went on to head United Airlines and US Airways respectively. But while both Dutta and Gangwal left their jobs amid a downward spiral in the airline business in the months after 9/11, Karnik is credited with rescuing ATA after being brought in as CFO from Delta Airlines (where he was senior vice-president). When the going gets tough, only the tough ones get going. Rajesh Hukku BITS Pilani Alum from i-flex has the world eating out of his hands with his Flexcube product. In the reservation episode its BITS Pilani which showed 'Where the Mind is without Fear" when all other universities bent backwards to please you know whom. Its time the johnny come lates read history and realize that BITS Pilani has been a leader who knows the way goes the way and shows the way.
IITs are great, some IITans also, but let us not forget, a lot of very bright guys do not get a chance to take the IIT coaching classes and thus do not make it to IITs. And also IITan does not necessarily imply perfect. an Example, I see in the pan-IIT meaating home page, the world is spinning in the wrong direction. Did you guys study geography in primary school, or just prepared for JEE? I say teach practical stuff in the general Engineering colleges, teach well, and make them undestand and think. India needs to improve all education, enginners are bad, doctors are bad, teachers are bad, programmers are bad, workmanship is bad, it is shocking how imperfectionists we are, more of a bragger. Can't design an electrical plugpoint that fits well. Websites are terribly designed and hardly work. Just imagine if these IT experts had to design a passenger plane.
We really need to improve instead of bragging about how smart we are. If you are smart why don't I see 100s of new inventions or even significantly improved products coming from a billion people?
I see an ad "DEstinguished IIT Alumni PanIIT2006.... whoever responsible, please correct the spelling, it is embarrasing. How are the IIT grads called? IITan or IITian as written in Rediff article.
IITs can do very little if the general engineering colleges have such poor teaching. It is sad to see so many people with engineering degrees who have learnt so little and understood even less.
Frankly the whole education in India needs a lot of improvement. We learn a lot of useless things and that too wrong. I see world map printed on notebooks with whole Africa in the southern hemisphere. No teacher, no parents, no shopkeeper, noone complains. How can we be so imperfectionists about everything and still compete with others? We must take responsibility for what we do. It will be nice to know how many new inventions have come out of India (including IITs and IIMs) since JC Bose's time. Or a list of Made in India basic products that work well. e.g. I have major problem with even electrical plugpoints, does that really need a rocket scientist's brain to design correctly? I have collected a list of 100 such basic things, we've got to improve. A fellow IITan, and a darn good one :)
Pease stop printing too much about IITians. India means not IITians alone. There are hundreds of Institutes like Banaras Hindu University, Delhi University, Anna University, National Institutes of Technology and others which produced Gems and the products from these institutes contributed a lot to the development of our country. Once IIT is known for its cream but now there is degeneration in some quarters as there is a crisis of character in every field. Being an IITian is not great but the contribution to the country in eradicating poverty is the primary contribution of every young engineer more so from IIT. How many IITians are staying in India to serve motherland? How many projects grabbed by IIT from Governmental agencies like DST, MNES, UGC, DBT etc., contributed to the development? Commitment is the need of the hour whether one is an IITian or not. If at least 5% of the IITians take-up challenging problems facing the country, RAMARAJYA is not far off. IITians should first think that they are Indians first and then Americans next.
By the way I forgot to mention that I graduated from IIT Kharagpur (MTech). My brother went to Pune University. He is smarter than I and has achieved a lot more in life.
Are IITs and IIMs the only Indian institutes that are worth writing articles about? Are IIT/IIMians the architects of modern India?. I am sick of reading articles which keep hyping these institues on a daily basis. Its as if other universites and colleges have done nothing to contribute to the development of India. Did President Kalam graduate from IIT? Did Narayana Murthy graduate from IIT? Did Dhirubhai Ambani get a MBA from IIM?
I am thankful o rediff for bringing so many posts regarding IIT in the last few days.The immense contribution of the IIT ians did need to be highlighted.However,over the last couple of days the tone is changing and beginning to sound more like only a certain section of people (IIT ians) have done something for India.The rest of the population which works hard and supports then is being ignored.IIT is great,but people from other institutes have also helped India become what it is today.And what about the huge foreign educated population returning to india because they want to help their country? Its unfair to ignore their contributions.IIT is great,but the others dont deserve the raw deal they are getting! IIT may be the flagship,but that shouldnt undermine the greatness of the rest of the fleet!
I agree with many points of Mr. Parameswaran's, but I think instead of opening new IIT's, the focus should be on upgrading some existing colleges of India. It will be in beneficial in two ways. First, it will certainly reduce the capital and other resource requirement from what would be needed for a completely new institute. Second, it would bring more Indian colleges into the high-ranking college list. The fact that most Indian engineers (even though institutes other than IITs don't get the credit) perform so well globally is an indicator of the fact that India needs to support them academically in all the ways it can, and a lot of the people who failed, as Mr. Parameswaran rightly pointed out, to appear on the scene for whatever reason but had the right orientation and potential, wold have make an impact, and several of the successful ones could have achieved more had they not had to struggle with the issues that plague most colleges of India.
RE:open the world to more...
by cupid on Jan 08, 2007 07:34 PM Permalink
your results about publication absolutely wrong.. rec cannot be compared with IIT and any other alma matter of IIT. REC has very poor standard interms of quality of publication.. but IITians have highly quality research papers.. check out roorkee and mumbai and other iit reserach papers..you may get an idea..
non-iitians shouldnot talk simply just like anything without any proof.
