I find the comments here are so funny..saying that people who get into IIM or IIT have brains and others not..I have friends who studied engg in lesser known university..doees it mean they have no brains?..nope becos they got into IIM later on..haha..I have friends who got into IIT ..do they have more brains?..nope..becos they cud not get into IIM..it doesnt mean they hav less brain either..I have friends who didnt get into IIM or IIT ..does it mean they dont have brains at all???not at all...they got into renowned US/UK universities and more educated and successful than those who passed out from IIT or IIM and toiling in India...Now would you think that people who study abroad has more brains that those who study in indian universities?..Just having a very tough entrance exam at IIT and IIM doesnt really make u a true professional..its the time u spend in these universities that makes u a true prefessional and tests ur skills.. find out how many IITs and IIMs feature in the worlds top 100 univs...so stop talking bad about your fellow countrymen and creating divide in society based on which institute a person has studied from..
RE:funny comments
by Rajesh Kumar on Sep 15, 2007 10:27 AM Permalink
These competitions are just like one day cricket. You may hit a century, you may not. Does it mean you dont know how to play cricket? Fact is we all dealing with people in education without brain. They are not concerned in educating india , not interested in creating professionals. They are interested in creating category. These are another category like caste system in india. Particular caste group is considered meritorious, and others with low resources are considered brainless.
RE:funny comments
by Rohan Kumar on Sep 15, 2007 10:50 AM Permalink
Well It's really funny to see people always comparing thier success with an IITian and IIM...this itself says truth.:)))))))
Being passing out from IIT & IIM put yourself with an different attitude in the society/industry. And the attitude is " IMPOSSIBLE = I M POSSIBLE". They achieve what they want.
However, it silly to find people always comparing success with money in India. Thats where meaning of getting into even IIT/IIM ends.We indians treat this institue as pathway to luxurious life. The flaw is in our typical mentality. Parents want to clear IIT/IIM so they can get them married weel enough in the society. No parents I observe telling the kids to do something for society/industry/nation or world.
You may agree or disagree...I have just tried to give some food for thoughts
its a funny survey agree to the top 10 but then money comes into picture, otherwise how on hell can u rate SDM-IMD @ 46th place with such great faculties and infrastructure and colleges which dont have any building of their own is rated much higher. just that SDM does not advertise and doesnt give money they are behind. GREAT WORK OUTLOOK, KEEP IT UP...
well its good 4 students while applying to dfrnt b-schools. it reveals the real story of pvt b-schools boasting to be A or no.1 in dfrnt sectors. students should keep these things in mind.
RE:lesser
by kohinoor banerjee on Sep 15, 2007 10:50 AM Permalink
donno know whether u r from IIT or IIM ... but if u r, then i pity the attitude of IIT and IIM students.... this comment itself makes u a lesser mortal than others...
had only IITs and IIMs been great persons around, then they would have been the CEOs and MDs of all leading companies in India... but that is not the case. The 'so-called' lesser mortals are at higher posts than u.... how is that??? just because there are other people around who are better... better than IIT and IIM passouts....
RE:lesser
by Pratap Bhanja on Sep 12, 2007 09:50 PM Permalink
Mr. Nilesh. This is just rubbish. You are extremely biased. I have a burning example wherein two IIM grads failed on logical agrument with one of my friend who is from a very lesser known university.
RE:lesser
by mohit kumar on Sep 13, 2007 02:27 AM Permalink
And I have a burning example when hundreds of IIM grads have won the logical arguments with most of their counterparts..... I guess u r talking about 1 in a hundred... isn't it Mr Pratap....
RE:lesser
by amal joseph on Sep 14, 2007 08:25 PM Permalink
Brand Counts my friends... whether we like it or not, IIT/IIM gives its students a much better platform than any other institute..
Does that make its students have more brains than the "Lesser Mortals"???? one shouldn't be so certain and Girish (ASSuming he is a "Greater Mortal")would be a fool to come to such a conclusion with just so much analysis.
Bling!!!! A "Greater Mortal didn't have this much brains or didn't use it??
Obviously - he didnt use it. (Coz Greater mortals have better brains???).
RE:lesser
by rajesh pandey on Sep 12, 2007 07:13 PM Permalink
Trust me you far away from the practicality of life.. schools are just medium for growth to anybody, it has nothing to do with brain. thousands of examples are available where we can say we have hyped the IIT/IIM. This is on of the tyrany of India.
Take me an iim alumni and still working under some . while my eng. classmates have established their own firms and have some social entity.I dont have a dare to stepinto entrepreneurship.IIMs are gud for salaries but not for selfrealization.How many IIM grads have their own business
RE:MBA from iim doent make them superhumans
by mohit kumar on Sep 13, 2007 02:28 AM Permalink
Dude not many IIM grads might have business, but most of them have successful business.... So IIM education does impart knowledge (business i meant).. I can give u countless examples.
RE:RE:MBA from iim doent make them superhumans
by amit shah on Sep 13, 2007 05:23 PM Permalink
my dear frnd i also want to do mba in finance so that i can be more success in achiving my salary target, recentaly i am doing c.a final.
RE:RE:MBA from iim doent make them superhumans
by amit shah on Sep 13, 2007 05:28 PM Permalink
can u tell me ur success after doing & in mean while ur doing mba
RE:MBA from iim doent make them superhumans
by mohit kumar on Sep 15, 2007 10:37 PM Permalink
Look I have passed out from IIM Bangalore this yr & can give u countless examples of people who have successful ventures in enterpreneurship.Although the number may be less, but the success ratio is surely high, which is important. I don't want to venture out into my own business, but will surely do after 5-6 yrs after I have gained market dynamics
I have seen many people who keep writing in these forums that Gates is a drop out, Ambani is a drop out etc etc and so u don;t need a MBA and stuff. Well, I think this is a human mentality of the tune of "grapes are sour". Since you find it difficult to clear cat and get to IIMs or clear JEE and get to IIT, u satisfy urself telling these things. Look at urself and see where u stand. An MBA may not make u a Gates or an Ambani but it certainly takes u closer. The amount of dropsouts being an Ambani or Gates is 0.1% while a MBA being a Narayan Murthy is 15%. Any logical person can surely see the advantage of an MBA from the top institute from this numbers. i.e Take all top executives and directors, get the ratio of this w.r.t drop outs and get the same ratio w.r.t MBA from top institute and u have this percentage. I do agree there is a one in million who reaches the top with no degress, but trust me its just one in a million. The remaining needs to get some education to put him in the global map.
RE:How important is a MBA to succeed
by Vaseem Ashraf on Sep 12, 2007 02:10 PM Permalink
Dear Vinod...
You say "Grapes are Sour".
I would disagree with your point of view to an extent.
Most of the candidates who prepare for CAT and other MBA exams, I have observed, are not made for being a future manager. However, they end up becoming one !
Little do people realise that MBA may not be their career path. They might have excelled somewhere else in life, for example, they might have become great scientists or teachers.
I have interacted with few IIMs pass outs and after talking to them I felt that they are not exceptional, as they are made to be believed. They are simply average or above average people who have worked hard for the exam at the right time and with the proper guidance. This does NOT mean that people who have not qualified or appeared in the exam are inferior to the ones who have qualified.
Moreover, its not all about the money honey !
People have varied interests and choices and NOT all people are going after the corporate world. Such people have carved out a career path for themselves with which they feel completely satisfied; even if they have the capabiltiy of qualifying the CAT or other MBA exams.
But people who have the flair and potential of becoming good managers should definitely aspire to do MBA from a reputed institute.
most of those rubbishing the B-schools are just overly optimistic guys and gals who failed to get into a good b-school and now have left any hope of getting in.
If we do not discount the importance of external factors (apart from a person's talent or hardwork) in any profession (including entrepreneurial ventures or pre-established business) then an MBA from a reputed b-school exponentially enhances the probability of succeeding by giving you more control over them.
So if you are ever interested in a managerial job or running a certain business, try to get into one.
Btw, why do the same question haunt me every time somebody mentions Late Dhirubhai Ambani? - Why did he got his sons educated at Stanford and Wharton for management?
RE:MBA
by sumit jain on Sep 12, 2007 12:43 PM Permalink
Its foolish to believe that MBA's are just money minting machine , After business is not only about earning profit but doing work in such a way that it benefits all .
Its funny but true. Beyond Top 10 known B-Schools,you can manipulate your ranking in OutLook survey.The corresponding charges are then recovered through selling of admission forms.
