I wish the society upholds the dignity of women ! As the say goes...hundred criminals may escape but not even an innocent shall be punished...May I request our fellow citizens to maintain dignity and decency while making remarks on our women. Without MOTHER, we are not here !! Unfortunatethings are bound to happen everywhere but it's the responsiblity of entire humankind to protect the weaker section especially women and kids. We should not jump to any conclusion and generalise any issue.. Indian families are living in harmony with dignity, decency, respect and values thanks to our women and their dedication and sacrifice.. We should look at the matter in the greater interest of the society !! Plz stop insulting / degrading our women.. Jai Hind
Many like Rakhi Sawant exposes even their private parts for publicity and fame. Frankly speaking, I, a married man, have dreamt of having sex with such chicks. And the same group shamelessly reports of abuse when someone loses control and kisses them. Absurd! Those who are not accessible to Rakhi Sawant looks prey in other pastures and as a result even innocent women become victims. Almost all the men are vulnerable in this matter. Shockingly, Rakhi Sawant is a role model for TV Channels like IndiaTV.
However, this is just a part of the story. Even in the absence of such exposes, there is a possibility that men will keep doing such things especially in a society where sex is considered a sin and therefore, controlled.
RE:Rakhi Sawant - Role Model!
by Dhananjay Kumar on Jun 22, 2007 11:15 AM Permalink
Sebastian. You bring up a very true point here. Its all these well educated (having rights to do whatever they think of) ladies who are responsible for increased sexual crime in India society. People watch these ladies in public and then those few unable to control there sexual desires (blame it on nature and not on men) tend or happen to do something which results in crimes like Nithari cases and other rape attempts on innocent women. And what sexual harassment (compared to those) these educated ladies are talking about? A girls was dancing (with minimal clothes) on the Gateway of India on new year midnight, amid a large croud (appreciate the guts), but did she ever realize that it may provoke the men around (which no man/women can help after a limit). And when a person touches them (intentionally or unintentionally), she will cry like she is a SAVITRI. All these WOMEN must realize that they do have all rights to do all things what they can and what they want, but its there duty and responsibility to make sure that there so called advancement towards independence and equality with men, should contribute towards betterment of society/culture and should not contribute in undesired incidents like crimes with poor/uneducated women/children. The truth is that (I bet you educated ladies sure agree with this deep inside your heart) at some point of time in your advanced life, you ladies do feel a need of man in your life.
Please continue reporting Abhi/Ash marriage, making look Mallika sexy... kinda articles. This would not atleast create any social controvercies. If Rediff is taking its media business serious, it should rather create more awareness and shout at loud pitch abt Kalam's second term, have an article exposing one corrupt politician/week (sure, u cud find 1/day). But, lets have reasonable targets.
There is a general misconception that women work for time pass,they are selfish and do not care about their families.I am afraid the people who are busy propagating these theories have overlooked the matrimonial columns of the newspapers.Beside the traditional goodlooking, fair and homely girl, prospective grooms are also on the look out for "working girls".It is below the dignity of any any highly educated and highly placed man to have a "home-maker" as wife. So can I safely conclude that men want to have working wives so that they can play the fool with women working in their offices while their working wives decide to lead their own "selfish" lives?
RE:Prospective grooms demand working brides
by Rajeev Mehta on Jun 21, 2007 07:43 PM Permalink
I am afraid this discussion is going towards gender fundamentalism.I believe it is wrong to generalise either about men or women. Each individual has different views about this world and generalising people is only error prone. Today's generation is way ahead in gender equality as earlier one and I am sure in the coming times the empowerment of women would only increase and that would be good for the society and the nation. Not to forget the fact that as we make progress there would definitely be "teething" problems as no social reform takes place without initial controversies and objections.
Women are deeply biased about their decency.They claim that if 10000 cases of male abuses not a single corresponding female case will be seen. If a woman wants sex, what wrong she does. She also has the biological need. Occassionaly she may also loose control, then what wrong she does.Nothing. Dont tell me that now as mature adults you are going to behave like they way you played as boys and girls. If thats the way women want then there wont be life production atall. They want it that way because life will be no longer with any responsibility for life. Just earn and spend on yourself honey. Man is concerned about human life, woman is primarily concerned about herself in her actions. God save humanity. What woman feelings are being talked about. She has to face the truth about herself first.
RE:I Object to Report Of Abuse
by Dhananjay Kumar on Jun 21, 2007 10:38 PM Permalink
Very True Pal....Women shall face the truth, admit it, and shall not cry foul when it comes hard on them.......
I am not suppossed to pass a universal statement based on my personal experience but then rules of integration plays an important role in life also.It is not correct that every women work for time-pass.There are womens who have done wonders but 65% women work for time pass.Work is an instrument for them to get out of the boundry of family.This has to be understood by the quality of work,necessity associated with work and internal voice encouraging to prove talent.How much of women work to support the demands of the family?Working women/girls can self answer it.Now coming to the question of sexual harassment.Actually it is an instrument to harass and blackmail .Sexual inclination is a biological phenomona but the ruls of society always keeps it under control.There might be some cases of actual sexual harassment but in 99 % cases such tendency is generated, accelerated and encouraged by women themselves.If women do not encourage directly or indirectly,few has the guts to proceed.And if someone wants to cross the line ,even a hard and strong look by women can stop men and no sexual assault can really occure.If still someone does,he is devil.But what generally happens ,such tendency is fuelled by women only.Actually womens are highly influenced by the role of commerce in life.Unke sapno ka shahjada pahle ghore par aata tha ab lambi gaadiyon par.And this influence of economics on their life makes them vulnarable.Chod do mammi dekh legi.What does it mean ..It simply means if not se
From the posted comments, the following conclusions can be made: -A woman is not a human being, but she should follow the dictats of men blindly. -She should not think for herself. -She has no right to decide whether she wants to work outside the home or not. -If she works, she does not have the right to decide why she should work - for keeping the home fires burning/ for extra bucks/to put her education to use/merely for 'timepass' -If a woman has decided to work, she should accept sexual harassment at workplace as part of the package -Woman invites sexual harassment through their clothes and behaviour all the time!
If these are the opinions of the so called educated men, then I can't help but pity their female relatives. Anger is too little an emotion to express my feelings. The women of our country are really unlucky to have such malefolk around in the forms of fathers,brothers,husbands and colleagues.No wonder even a multinational like KPMG could not do justice to its female employee. If you do not respect women then that really reflects on your flawed upbringing.Men out there holding high profile jobs and posting all nonsense in rediff, I am really astonished to find that technology has not changed your feudal mindset even a bit What a pity!
RE:sexula harassment at work
by Dhananjay Kumar on Jun 21, 2007 11:08 PM Permalink
1. You are one of those women who are responsible for the west-like situation in Indian culture and society which is again no good to women. Don't be surprised if you see the number of sexual crimes (so called by an women but happened with mutual consent only....God must be having hard time finding a bug in his code of women mind), suicides, depression, abortion etc in India surpasses the numbers in west. 2. You please keep your sympathy with you. Our female relatives are thousand times happier than you. Pity on you who can't digest it and trying to provoke them with all kind of false women rights principles. And pity on your male relatives, my sympathy is with them. 3. I guess you like the kind of males in west countries who will enjoy with you right from the age of 14 years, will make you go for abortion(s), suicide attempts, depression pills etc etc, and then break up with you just before the engagement and ..........Now please don't tell me its our mentality. Its all facts which all you over-educated women must be aware of. 4. You are right. Those who don't respect women are definitely brought up by over-educated and independent women like you only, because what all they have learnt from you is to simply care about you (by crying in terms of "humanity" and "equality"). 5. Technology is created by human mind, and human mind was created by God/Nature. How can tachnology change a mindset? A little common sense would have saved you from being astonished. -4 DEB and Pearl
RE:sexula harassment at work
by Sudip Jha on Jun 21, 2007 07:07 PM Permalink
-of course,she is huwomen being. -No she should think for herself and be ready to be lebelled selfish -She does have the right.Actually this right has assaulted the very concept of family -How much of them work family/a receptionist job/a telecalling job/no better exmple of "to put her education to use. -no, she should not accept but she should not encorage too -Not correct at all .But riding in big cars/going to good restaurents are tendencies found more in women than in men
RE:sexula harassment at work
by pearl on Jun 21, 2007 07:31 PM Permalink
Hey Sudip, we should not comment negetive just because a lady is a receptionist. God HAS made all humans, male or female, ALIKE. Do not demean anyones existance. Respect all, otherwise you cannot repect urself. There does exist sexual harrasment both for men as well as women and therefore we should take care of our future generation on what we are teaching them and not show them he or she is superior to anyone. I totally agree with Debabrati and sudips comments confuse me and are demeaning.
RE:sexula harassment at work
by rahul on Jun 22, 2007 09:35 AM Permalink
Many misuse the right given to women as a whole.Only one reason is that they are right others are at wrong... most situations.. say more than 90% of the cases.Men are being harassed by women.. I think men should have equal rights with men in all the powers she has. That way we can do justice to all men who are the victims of this behaviour.
RE:sexula harassment at work
by on Jun 27, 2007 11:02 AM Permalink
some of your conclusions are apt but it is unfair to come to a conclusion in the case of KPMG given that the matter is under investigation and the lady concerned itself refused to attend hearings although the norms followed the firm were as per supreme court guidelines. i think rediff has asked the appropriate question that what amounts to sexual harassment? in many parts of the world the focus is whether sex was sought. in the case of kpmg, the lady's statement of 21 pages does not exactly suggest that the same was asked of her. rajeev shukla
rediff must stop such matters. small things are beingblown by our media. no girls neither work for time pass nor do they pass their time in work. each individual has his/her own self respect. each person works to meet his ends. no need to underestimate or speak low about the girls working. many girls work hard and support their families. there guys who shun from their responsibilities. small issues are unnecessarily being blown as sexual harrassment and media makes publicity. please stop this nonsense
RE:stop it
by rahul on Jun 21, 2007 06:45 PM Permalink
There is a saying that "Truth is very hard to listen".Not all girls work for self respect rather for time pass and spoil mens work.This is open secret..
RE:stop it
by santosh paralkar on Jun 21, 2007 07:19 PM Permalink
Hey guys cool down, i can share my experience with u...guys i have seen lot of girls who really work hard even though there family also depend on them....so shut up and go to heal....i respet those girls who work to take the responsiblity of their family...
RE:stop it
by pearl on Jun 21, 2007 07:34 PM Permalink
Thanks Santosh for making me feel something better, otherwise reading such stupid ideas I started thinking in which century are we living.
No one should ever talk about harrashment there is nothing like harrashment bcoz this happens with the help of women otherwise it is not all possible? have anyone every tested this? try and tell me
RE:can anyone tell how to judge a girl from her behaviour?
by pearl on Jun 21, 2007 07:36 PM Permalink
Are u stupid or something? Do you have no understanding of this world? Or u r some 6-7 year kid, then dont read this section, this is not for you.
RE:can anyone tell how to judge a girl from her behaviour?
by prasoon chaudhary on Jun 21, 2007 06:04 PM Permalink
So, if one of your male friend says that he is getting less salary. Do u say him - 'it happens with the help of u only, otherwise it is not all possible'? Afterall, if he resigns, problem will be over isn't it? Boss, where are u? This harassment is quite common in offices. Plaese note that, harassment doesn't mean only raping or forcing.
