I have worked in software industry for about 7 years and let me share some things happenning in Bangalore.
When we came in search of job to Bangalore, the companies would ask 2 years experience and we had only 1.5 years. So worked in small comapnies for less pay to get more experience. By the time we got 2 years, somewhere in 2001, when IT market was down, bigger companies started asking 4 experience. We got sticked to small companies again waiting for those 4 years to complete. By the time we got got 4 years, bigger companies neglected those who had experience from smaller companies thinking, these peoples projects are small and no overseas experience etc. I personally was asked this kind of questions knowing the fact most of the biggest companies started as a small stream.
Anyhow, the knowledge that I have aquired so far has brought me to the stage today that I can start my own company and no need of these experience head-ache or company certificates.
This kind of plight would have made many people to fake their CV. Many people's house situations make them go beyond being Sathya Harishchandra.
RE:Not a time for honest and hardworking people specially in Bangalore
by garg vipul on Feb 21, 2007 07:56 AM Permalink
Companies feel that the candidates require them and not the vice versa, hence they should fulfill their demands, whether justified or appropriate or not.
In fact the requirement is mutual, the company requires the candidate as much as the candidate requires the job.
RE:Not a time for honest and hardworking people specially in Bangalore
by rajesh on Feb 20, 2007 03:11 PM Permalink
Same thing happend with me ..long back when the industry was down ..i have to work in small company with very less salary ...and when market started picking up ..i got the job in reputed company ...but my prev coy didn't gave any releaiving letter ...at the time of joining the reputed company they didn't mentioned anything ....but after 3 yrs of working with the company...when i put up my paper ...they said integrity issue ... i have no proof ... they didn't have salary slip or any kind of supported document ...all i told them is to check the register which i used to sign everyday during my tenure ... what to say ...i know during my tenure in the company they asked to put some fake projects to please client's requirement ... don't know what they are expecting
RE:Not a time for honest and hardworking people specially in Bangalore
by garg vipul on Feb 21, 2007 07:56 AM Permalink
Companies feel that the candidates require them and not the vice versa, hence they should fulfill their demands, whether justified or appropriate or not.
In fact the requirement is mutual, the company requires the candidate as much as the candidate requires the job.
RE:Not a time for honest and hardworking people specially in Bangalore
by Smart Fool on Feb 20, 2007 01:44 PM Permalink
I agree with you 100%. Its the attitude of these companies which has made people to fake their CVs
Its simply double standards. I have worked in 3 (want to write those names but dont thinks its a good idea) of the top 5 companies in India and all of them fake the CVs when it is sent to the clients. There are dedicated people who make changes to the CVs so that they can place them with the client. People who are sitting in bench for about 1 year are shown as people having experience in that platform. Even training is converted into experience by these big companies of India. Its so ridiculous that they are denying the same thing when the candidate does it. Simple double standards
I agree that a huge number of job seekers fake their CVs to get jobs. But in some cases even the genuine job seekers have to fake their work experience because of these companies. A friend of mine who had been working for over 3 years had to take a break of about 7 - 8 months from work due to some problems with his father's health. He is the only son and his mother had already passed away. He had to take a break in order to take care of his father. Although his father passed away due to the illness, he recovered from the shock and started searching for job again which was after a good gap of 10 months. Although he was academically qualified and had experience of over 3 years, many of these well known companies who hue and cry about job seekers faking CVs told him on his face that he had not been working for the last 10 months and that is the reason they are reluctant to hire him. He took all the medial receipts, papers, and even his dad's death certificate to justify that he is speaking the truth. Not even a single company was willing to offer him a position. By the time all this happened, 1 year had passed by, eventually he got frustrated and he faked his CV for that 1 year claiming to be working in a small start-up. With his faked CV in a span of about a month and half, he had 2 offers from other well known companies itself. Companies should just stop crying about the fake CVs as one way or the other they are responsible for forcing job seeker's to fake their CVs.
Why will somebody want to fake ? If you let know the truth, the job is not for your asking whatever be your competency level. This is bound to be the outcome of desperation and the stigma of joblessness
RE:transparency
by on Feb 20, 2007 01:25 PM Permalink
here we are talking about candidates faking the CV and we are not even looking at what services companies portray to their clients.
Companies like Infosys recruit freshers and project them as 2-3 year experienced during client interviews. I have seen this happen in Infosys (the most reputed company of india)
RE:RE:transparency
by Smart Fool on Feb 20, 2007 01:31 PM Permalink
I agree with you. All most all of the service or consulting companies (big and small) in India fake their employee CVs which they send to their clients in order to get the project. The companies charge their clients in US dollars and pay in Indian ruupees to their employees and on the other side they hue and cry about job seekers faking CVs.
I just want to give my advice to all those who did this that:
DONT WASH YOU LAUNDRY IN PUBLIC.
If you can get the meaning what i am trying to say then your a** is safe otherwise go ahead and call your manager you kick your a** in front of public.
Its common , I hv seen my friends claiming tall things on Qualification and Experience and getting good job in MNC company with good salary. Though they are not MBA but they will write MBA from So and so instituted. once the appoinment letter is recd even HR doesnt ask for cerdentials .I hv seen we the salary slip is also faked with higher parks. And true is Industry doesnt the honset people
If somebody has done this then why the hell he/she would confess here on Internet, where every minuscule detail about anybody could be taken in wrong sense. Offcourse, we belong to the land of Gandhiji, but it don't make any sense to forward your cheek every single time for getting slapped. I simply wonder why these types of topics are posted by bunch of nuts!!!
I am project manager in a reputed software firm and I have myself identified nearly 100 candidates with fake CVs. I have caught them during the process of technical interview. It is quite easy to spot these people.
Once I had to get 2 employees in my firm fired, since they joined the firm with fake CVs. I was routinely asking a few technical questions to these 2 people and to my astonishment found that these 2 people could not answer the most basic questions. It is then I grilled them and finally they confessed having faked their CVs. Immediately I brought to the notice of the HR and they had to terminate these 2 people.
RE:Fake CVs
by Nikhil on Feb 20, 2007 12:46 PM Permalink
I agree. It is easy to catch. I also have caught some people during the time of technical interview also. With experience in conducting interviews, you can easily catch these people.
RE:Fake CVs
by Derendra on Feb 20, 2007 12:46 PM Permalink
Mr.KKA it is really good that u have noticed that the people who are fake.Let me tell u i am working in a MNC and i have seen many so called MBA from reputed institute fumble on answering simple questions like vertical integartion,TQm and so on.whenever i take induction to these people i realise most of them are bunc of duds and their only qualificatuion if at all they poses is Good english,this is more so with the people from UP and Bihar.
RE:RE:Fake CVs
by ashish anand on Feb 20, 2007 12:54 PM Permalink
most humbly requesting you not to blame Bihar or UP without any data. I have heard most (not seen) the same even in visa application from some state. My experience is slightly different and found that those who are claiming fake are able to answer stuffs more diligently and while those who have actually worked only know the modue specific basic operaional aspects and miss the bigger picture.
RE:RE:RE:Fake CVs
by Smart Fool on Feb 20, 2007 01:41 PM Permalink
In my experience, I have seen most fake CVs from people originating from UP, Bihar, Andhra Pradesh, a few from Tamil Nadu, Maharashtra and Harayana. The percentage of people those I have come across who have faked are more from Andhra Pradesh, UP and Bihar. On the other side, I have the most intelligent people working in my company are from these states. My company's CTO is from Andhra. There are 3 senior managers where 1 is from UP and other 2 from Bihar. What I have also found is that those who fake are able to answer much better than those who have worked and such people have good communication skills which they use it to hide the fact that they are faking CVs. There are some bumb people who fake their CVs and also get caught easily during interviews.
RE:RE:RE:RE:Fake CVs
by annapoorna pandit on Feb 20, 2007 01:52 PM Permalink
I accept you. For hardworking people, its difficult to answer all questions because in real time experience, there will be many projects to handle. But in CVs they happen to hide some projects because of their size and time. People happen to show only the bigger projects just like people who fake the CVs. Actual hardworking people's concentration would have gone beyond those projects which are just shown in CVs.
RE:Fake CVs
by Pankaj Ramani on Feb 20, 2007 01:32 PM Permalink
It is difficult to differentiate a Diploma candidate (with 1/2 yrs exp) from Degree ..and a diploma will get going with fake Degree certificate !..
RE:Fake CVs
by muthu mari on Feb 20, 2007 03:39 PM Permalink
Give chance for those people also if they 've good technical knowledge and can they fllow.In IT field can't tell who 've more knowledge.
