Yesterday i posted in the web in one of mr sachin the great article on rediffmail askinG if master blaster has played a match of kapil caliber.To day mr gavaskar claims its the best.Y esterday i received numerous absuive mail but i do not know the content as the moderator had blocked that message
RE:175 the best
by Shekhar on Jun 04, 2008 09:27 AM Permalink
Now I am presenting here a measure scale………………...
1. 0-19 (poor)(0) 2. 20-39 (average)(1) 3. 40-59 (above average)(2) 4. 60-79 ( good)(3) 5. 80 -99 (very good)(4) 6. 100 above( outstanding)(5) all the points are in 5.
now we have to also consider his bowling performance. In one days 5 wickets equals to one century…..so we can say 1 wicket = 20 runs.
Now let see.
1. first crucial match he faced was against newzealand in 1990.this was the triangular series among aus,new and ind..india have lost first two matches and if India want to enter into the final India have to win. Result: win Sachin performance: 36 runs 39 balls( verdict: average)points gain:-1
2. second match he faced against Pakistan in 1990.this was five team tournament.india has lost his first match.the second match was very important for India. Result: loss Sachin performance: 20 runs in 25 balls(verdict: average)points gain:-1
3. third crucial he played against srilanaka.this was the final of asia cup in 1991. Result: win Sachin performance: 53 runs in 70 balls(verdict: above average)points gain:-2
4. fourth match he played against pakistan. This was the final of wills cup in sharjah in 1991.in this match aqib javed made a hatrick.sachin were also include in that hatrick. Result : loss Sachin performance: 0 runs in 1 balls(verdict: poor)points gain:-0
5. fifth match he played against westendies..this was the three team tournament. India have to win his last league match
RE:RE:175 the best
by Shekhar on Jun 04, 2008 09:28 AM Permalink
7. seventh match also the second final match of that series. Result: loss Sachin performance: 69 runs in 100 balls(verdict: good)points gain:-3
8: this match was played against Pakistan in world cup 1992.this was the first time when India and Pakistan played against each other in world cup. Result: won Sachin performance: 54* runs in 62 balls(verdict: above average)points gain:-2 Also takes 1 wicket and nominate for man of the match award.
9.ninth match was against Zimbabwe.this was rain effected match.this match was very crucial because India have lost his last 3 matches in 4.this match was played in world 1992 in Hamilton. Result: win Sachin performance: 81 runs in 77 balls(verdict: very good)points gain:-4 Also takes 1 wicket and named as main of the match.
10..this match was played against newzealand . this match is very crucial to remain in the tournament.this match also played in world cup 1992 in newzealand. Result: loss Sachin performance: 84 runs in 107 balls(verdict: very good)points gain:-4
11: this match was played against Zimbabwe.this was the only odi.who win that match win the series. This match played just after the world cup 1992. Result: win Sachin performance: 39 runs in 56 balls(verdict:above average )points gain:-1
12:this match was played against south Africa.india was behind in the series by 3-1 this was the fifth match of the series.if India loss this match he also loss the series.this match was played in south Africa in 1992
RE:RE:RE:175 the best
by Shekhar on Jun 04, 2008 09:29 AM Permalink
14: this match was played against England.this was 6 match series and India was behind 3-2.if India loss this match he also loss the series.this match was played in gwalior in 1993. Result: win Sachin performance: 34 runs in 30 balls(verdict: average)points gain:-1
15:this match was the third match of the odi series between India and srilanka.match was played in srilanka in 1993.the series was level at 1-1.this was the deciding match. Result: loss Sachin performance: 25 runs in 39 balls(verdict: average)points gain:-1
16:this match was very crucial for India.if India wanted to reach in semifinal he have to won that match at any cost.this was the six nation series named hero cup played in India in 1993.this match played was played south Africa. Result: won Sachin performance: 3 runs in 25 balls(verdict: poor)points gain:-0
17:this was the semifinal of hero cup.who can forget this match.sachin won the match for the India by his bowling. Result:won Sachin performance: 15 runs in 31 balls(verdict: poor)points gain:-0
18:this was the final of hero cup.played against westendies in Calcutta. Result: won Sachin performance: 28* runs in 43 balls(verdict: average)points gain:-1 Sachin also taken 1 wicket.
19.this match was played against newzealand in 1994,this is 4 match series.india have lost his first match.this was the first math when sachin opened for India first time. Result:won Sachin performance: 82 runs in 49 balls(verdict: very good)points gain:-4
RE:RE:RE:RE:175 the best
by Shekhar on Jun 04, 2008 09:30 AM Permalink
22.this was the final match of australsia cup, played in sharjah in 1994 against Pakistan result: loss Sachin performance: 24 runs in 26 balls(verdict: average)points gain:-1
23.this was the third match of the triangular series.india have to win this match to reach into the final:this match was played against Australia in 1994 result: win Sachin performance: 110 runs in 130 balls(verdict: outstanding)points gain:-5 Also named man of the match.
24.this was the final of the triangular series.played against srilanka. Result:win Sachin performance: 0 runs in 2 balls(verdict: poor)points gain:-0
25:this was the final of wills cup,played in culcutta in 1994 against westendies. Result:win Sachin performance: 66 runs in 68 balls(verdict: good)points gain:-3 Sachin also taken one wicket and named man of the match.
26: this was the second match for India in four nation tournament.india had lost first match.he should won this match to remain in tournament.this match in 1995 against south Africa. Result: loss Sachin performance: 37runs in 51 balls(verdict: average)points gain:-1
27:this was the third match for India in asia cup 2005.india had to won this match to enter in final.this match was played against srilanka. Result:win Sachin performance: 112* runs in 107 balls(verdict: outstanding)points gain:-5 Also named man of the match.
28:this was the final of asia cup which was played in 1995 in sharjah against srilanka. Result:win Sachin performance: 4
RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:175 the best
by Shekhar on Jun 04, 2008 09:31 AM Permalink
31: this was the quarterfinal of worldcup 1996, played in banglore. Result:win Sachin performance: 31 runs in 59 balls(verdict: average)points gain:-1
32:this was the semifinal of world cup 1996, played in kolkata. Result: loss Sachin performance: 65 runs in 88 balls(verdict: good)points gain:-3 Also took 2 wicket. 33.this was the second match of singer cup.india had to won this match to enter into final.this match was played against Pakistan in Singapore. Result: loss Sachin performance: 100 runs in 111 balls(verdict: outstanding)points gain:-5
34.this match was played in benoni in 1997.this 34.this was the third match for India in three nation tournament.india had lost first two games.india had to win this to remain in the tournament.this tournament was played in sharjah in 1996. Result: win Sachin performance: 118 runs in 140 balls(verdict: outstanding)points gain:-5 Also took 2 wicked also named as man of the match
35:this was the final of sharjah cup.played against south Africa in 1996. Result:loss Sachin performance: 57 runs in 71 balls(verdict:above average)points gain:-2
36:this match was played in england in 1996.this was three match odi series.this was the third match of that series.india was behind(1-0)in this match.india had to won this match for equalize the series. Result:loss Sachin performance: 1 runs in 11balls(verdict: poor)points gain:-0
37:this was the second match of the four nation tournament for India.india had lost his fi
RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:175 the best
by Shekhar on Jun 04, 2008 09:32 AM Permalink
39:this was the fifth match of the Toronto cup.the series equal with 2-2.this match was played against Pakistan in 1996. Result:loss Sachin performance: 23runs in 44 balls(verdict:average)points gain:-1
40:this was the sixth and last match of the titan cup.india had to won this match at any cost to reach into final.this amtch was played against Australia in 1996. Result: win Sachin performance: 62runs in 60 balls(verdict:good)points gain:-3
41:this was the final of titan cup. Result:win Sachin performance: 67runs in 88 balls(verdict: good)points gain:-3 42:this was the single match played against south was the three nation tournament.india had not won a single match in this series so far.this match was very crucial.india had to win this match with a big run rate to enter in to the final. Result: win Sachin performance: 104runs in 97 balls(verdict:outstanding)points gain:-5 Also named man of the match.
44.this was the final of triangular series, played against south Africa in 1997. Result:loss Sachin performance: 45runs in 33 balls(verdict: above average)points gain:-2
45.this match was played against Bridgetown.this wa four match odi series between India and westendies.india was behind 2-1.he had to won this match to equalize the series. Result:loss Sachin performance: 1 runs in 11 balls(verdict: poor)points gain:-0
46:this was the third match of independence cup for India.this was four nation tournament.india had to won this match for qualify in
RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:175 the best
by Shekhar on Jun 04, 2008 09:31 AM Permalink
37:this was the second match of the four nation tournament for India.india had lost his first match.india had to win this match to remain in the tournament.this tournament was played in Colombo in 1996. Result: win Sachin performance: 40runs in 46 balls(verdict: above average)points gain:-2
38:this was the third match of the four nation tournament for India.india had to win this match to reach into the final. This tournament was played in Colombo in 1996. Result:loss Sachin performance: 7runs in 11 balls(verdict: poor)points gain:-0
RE:RE:175 the best
by Deenadhayalan Naidu on Jun 04, 2008 09:31 AM Permalink
yOUR LOGIC IS TOO GOOD FOR YOU BUT THE GROUND REALITY IS WHAT IT MATTERS WORLD CUP, WORLD CUP ,WORLD CUP UPPAID MATCHES.
RE:RE:RE:175 the best
by Shekhar on Jun 04, 2008 09:34 AM Permalink
world cup??Oh so Lara has to be the worst batter of the lot coz he never was able to take the WI to finals of WC..
RE:RE:175 the best
by Shekhar on Jun 04, 2008 09:59 AM Permalink
Hahah all the loosers who have no sense and no logic have shut their mouths now..good 4 u guys.. please try to be unbiased ..u people abuse sachin coz u r jealous or may be some othger reason..but he has been hailed as the greatest ever..REMEMBER THE SAME SUNIL GAVASKAR CALLED HIM BETTER THAN SIR DON IN TECHNIQUE..
RE:RE:175 the best
by Shekhar on Jun 04, 2008 09:46 AM Permalink
Talk about WC??He took the team to 1996 wc semi finals where india were 99/2 when he got our after making a good 52 but then the whole team faltered after that in that semi..in 2003 he almost singlehandedly landed them in the finals where again if he fai;led the whole team failed..
RE:RE:175 the best
by Shekhar on Jun 04, 2008 09:44 AM Permalink
which series??WI won only 1 series against the aussies during lara's times and he made 52 and 7 in won test and 16 in the other test they won in that series??SO which series r u takling about man??
RE:175 the best
by Shekhar on Jun 04, 2008 09:57 AM Permalink
And when india beat the aussies..Sachin made 155 in the 2nd innings of the 1 won match..79 in the oly innings of the 2nd match won..Even in the last match that india lost he made 177..In the 2nd series win also ha made 126 in the last match which we won and made 2 50s in 1st test which was lost cos no one else played well..
RE:RE:RE:RE:175 the best
by Shekhar on Jun 04, 2008 09:34 AM Permalink
49:this was the third match of the three match series.the series equal with 1-1, team who won this match also won the series.this matched was played against Pakistan in 1997 in Lahore. Result: loss Sachin performance: 7runs in 11 balls(verdict: poor)points gain:-0
50:now India had moved into 1998.this wa the golden period of sachin.this match was played against pakistan. this was the first final of independence cup, played in Dhaka. Result:won Sachin performance: 95runs in 78 balls(verdict: very good)points gain:-4 Sachin also took 3 wickets in this match,also named man of the match.
51:second final of the independence cup 1998. Result:loss Sachin performance: 1runs in 6 balls(verdict: poor)points gain:-0
52:third final of the independence cup 1998 result:win Sachin performance: 41runs in 26 balls(verdict:above average)points gain:-2 Also took 1 wicket.
53:this was the final against austrlia.this was the triangular series.played in 1998. Result:loss Sachin performance: 15runs in 24 balls(verdict: poor)points gain:-0
54:this was the fourth match for India.india had to win or loss with a better run rate than the newzealand,this match was played against Australia in sharjah in 1998. Result:loss Sachin performance: 143uns in 131 balls(verdict: outstanding)points gain:-5 Also took 1 wicket and named man of the match.
55:this was the final of sharjah cup against Australia in 1998. Result:win Sachin performance: 134runs in 131 balls(verdict: outsta
RE:175 the best
by Shekhar on Jun 04, 2008 09:52 AM Permalink
sir Viv failed in 2 wc finals making 5 and 33 only so u will call him a failure??Get a life..
RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:175 the best
by Shekhar on Jun 04, 2008 09:37 AM Permalink
75:this was the match of icc knock tournament played in Nairobi in 2000. this was the pre quarter final match, means knock out match. Result: win Sachin performance: 25 runs in 35 balls(verdict: average)points gain:-1
76: this was the match of icc knock tournament played in Nairobi in 2000. this was the quarter final match, means knock out match. Result: win Sachin performance: 38 runs in 37 balls(verdict: average)points gain:-1 Also took 1 wicket.
77: this was the match of icc knock tournament played in Nairobi in 2000. this was the semi final match against south Africa. Result:win Sachin performance: 39 runs in 50 balls(verdict: average)points gain:-1 Also took 2 wickets.
78:this was the final of the icc knock tournament against newzealand in 2000. Result: loss Sachin performance: 69 runs in 83 balls(verdict: good average)points gain:-3 Also took 1 wicket.
79:this was the fifth match of the odi series between India and austrlia.before this match series was equal with 2-2. so this was very crucial match.this series was played in 2001. Result: loss Sachin performance: 12 runs in 15 balls(verdict: poor)points gain:-0 Also took 3 wicket.
80:this was the final match of triangular series played against westendies in 2001. Result:loss Sachin performance: 0 runs in 4 balls(verdict: poor)points gain:-0
81:this was the last match of the triangular series played against Kenya in 2001.if India would lost this match he would out of the final. Resu
RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:175 the best
by Shekhar on Jun 04, 2008 09:35 AM Permalink
58:this match was played in knock out tournament, aginst Australia in 1998.what a performance performed by little master. Result: win Sachin performance: 141runs in 128 balls(verdict: outstanding)points gain:-5 Also claimed four wicket and won the man of the match award.
59: this match was played in knock out tournament, aginst westendies in 1998.this was the semifinal of the icc trophy. Result: loss Sachin performance: 8runs in 14 balls(verdict: poor)points gain:-0 Also claomed 2 wickets.
60:this was the final played in sharjah in 1998 against Zimbabwe. Result:win Sachin performance: 124*runs in 92 balls(verdict: outstanding)points gain:-5 Also took 1 wicket..also named man of the match.
61:this was the third match of India in world cup 1999.indias had lost first two games.next three games were crucial for India. Result:win Sachin performance: 140*runs in 101 balls(verdict: outstanding)points gain:-5 Also named man of the match
62:this was the fourth match of the world cup1999 against srilanka. Result win Sachin performance: 2runs in 3 balls(verdict: poor)points gain:-0
63:this was the last league match of the world cup 199against England. Result:win Sachin performance: 22runs in 40 balls(verdict: average)points gain:-1
64:this was the first super six match, if India wanted enter into the semis they had to win all the super six matches. Result:loss Sachin performance: 0runs in 4 balls(verdict: poor)points gain:-0
RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:175 the best
by Shekhar on Jun 04, 2008 09:36 AM Permalink
67:this was the final of the Singapore cup played in 1999 against westendies.this match had abandoned due to rain. Result:nr Sachin performance: 40runs in 65 balls(verdict: above average)points gain:-2
68:this match played again next day. Result: loss Sachin performance: 0runs in 6 balls(verdict: poor)points gain:-0
69:this was the fifth match of the odi series between India and newzealand played in 1999 in new delhi.the series was level with 2-2.this was the crucial match.india need only 24 runs then sachin come, means the result of match had been decided. Result:win Sachin performance: 0runs in 2 balls(verdict: poor)points gain:-0
70: this was the fourth match for India.india had lost last three games.this was the three nation tournament, was played in Australia called vb series.india have to win this match to remain his hope for final. Result:loss Sachin performance: 93runs in 103 balls(verdict: very good)points gain:-4
71:this was the fifth match for India. India had lost his last four games. Due to unexpected result between the game of aus and Pakistan. India had one more chance to enter in final. Result:win Sachin performance: 41runs in 46 balls(verdict: above average)points gain:-2
72:this was the last match for India to reach in final.he had to defeat Pakistan in this match to enter into the final. Result: loss Sachin performance: 17runs in 14 balls(verdict: poor)points gain:-0
73:this was the fourth match of the tri nation series played
RE:175 the best
by Shekhar on Jun 04, 2008 09:26 AM Permalink
who say sachin never perform in crucial matches? For those who says that sachin never perfoms in crucial matches.I also write this thread before, but due to some probelm this thread is not on this community.this thread again representing due to world cup disaster.this thread stats are calculated after the tour of south africa in nov 2006.
First things what are crucial matches… Crucial matches are those in which the situation is of type “do and die”. in my opinion there are some type of crucial matches.
1. final 2. semi final 3. quarter final 4. when the series is of 7 matches and u are equal by 3-3 then the seventh match is crucial 5. when the series is of 7 matches and u are trail by 3-0 then the fourth match is crucial 6. when the series is of 7 matches and u are trail by 3-2 then the sixth match is crucial 7. when the series is of 7 matches and u are equal by 3-1 then the fifth match is crucial 8. when the series is of 6 matches and u are trail by 3-2 then the sixth match is crucial 9. when the series is of 6 matches and u are trail by 3-1 then the fifth match is crucial 10. when the series is of 5 matches and u r trail by 2-0 then the third match is crucial. 11. when the series is of 5 matches and u are equal by 2-2 then the fifth match is crucial 12. when the series is of 5 matches and u are trail by 2-1 then the fourth match is crucial because if u lose this match u lose the series 13. when the series is of 3 matches and u are equal by 1-1 then th
RE:175 the best
by raghu vishnu on Jun 04, 2008 09:40 AM Permalink
But nothing like winnign thw world cup...and how many world cups did sachin win for u'll
RE:175 the best
by Shekhar on Jun 04, 2008 09:25 AM Permalink
So if that really is the best then it means its better than Lara and Ricky's too..May be u forgot Azhar calling sharjah innings as the best he ever saw..
RE:175 the best
by Deenadhayalan Naidu on Jun 04, 2008 09:28 AM Permalink
when comparing amoung the indian players for a crucial world cup.There ar great innings which will come at appropriate times.
RE:RE:175 the best
by Shekhar on Jun 04, 2008 09:30 AM Permalink
One innings in a life time wont make some1 a greater batter..read on what i put there 4 u..
MS Dhoni will singlehandedly win the WC for India in 2011 and also the ICC champions trophy in 2008.....
India will rule the cricketing world in ODIs and 20-20 for many years now...we have an invincible team now with Yousuf Pathan, Raina and Rohit Sharma knocking on the doors...in bowling we have Manpreet Goni, Munaf Patel and Sidahrth Trivedi if the frontline of Sreesanth, Zaheer and RP loses form.....
There is too much talent and this talent will ensure that no one will touch us now for a few years!!
3 cheers to Indian cricket and 3 cheers to Lalit Modi for coming out with such a wonderful innovative concept called IPL....
RE:Dhoni will win 2011 WC for India singlehandedly!!
by complex on Jun 04, 2008 09:25 AM Permalink
Is dhoni going to play for india in 2009? First ask this question and then look out for him winning next WC
RE:Dhoni will win 2011 WC for India singlehandedly!!
by Sandeep Kumar on Jun 04, 2008 10:01 AM Permalink
Dhoni will definetly win the world cup, but only If india is the only participating country. Even If kenya is there I have a doubt. First you tell me when dhoni has won the matches for india except first year of his international career(Under ganguly and Dravids captaincy, Mind you.)
RE:Dhoni will win 2011 WC for India singlehandedly!!
by naison garvasis on Jun 04, 2008 11:10 AM Permalink
Good dreaming..! First let him win a match for India. When was his last hundred.., can you remember? He is gonna be out of the team very soon.
RE:Dhoni will win 2011 WC for India singlehandedly!!
by Maheswari on Jun 04, 2008 01:01 PM Permalink
Dhoni should improve his qualities and to start to work for Indian team. Mainly, he is depending upon the other players to perfom. Ofcourse, he got money for his life time. Not like Sacin. But to remaining in the team, he is expected to do something in his own name. He should remember the opener srikanth is dropped from the team when he is top. Nowadays he is also not keeping the wikets as wicket keeper. Then constrate on the play. There are so many young bloods are waiting in queqe to find place in the Indian cricket team. beware Mr.Dhoni. Nobody bigger than game. Leave your ego, and learn to respect the seniors. wind will not always bow in one direction.
RE:Kapil missed Golden Chance in 1987 Reliance Cup !!!
by Bald Head on Jun 04, 2008 10:49 AM Permalink
You only see or remember that Kapil lost his cool in 1987 semifinal against England in Mumbai.
But you are either not aware or do not remember the ugly politics by certain vested interests those days which first removed Kapil and brought in Sunny as captain (after the glorious 1983 WC win) and then went out of the way to ensure India's defeat to dethrone Kapil as captain again after 1987 WC.
If India would have won the 1987 WC, it would have been difficult for these behind the scene politikers to accomplish what they intended to. The victim was not just Kapil, but Team India and its numerous innocent fans.
RE:Kapil missed Golden Chance in 1987 Reliance Cup !!!
by Maheswari on Jun 04, 2008 01:04 PM Permalink
I think mere politics prevail everywhere. we should remember the sad memories from the past to avoid in this millennium
RE:RE:Kapil - 1 World Cup ; Dhoni - 3 World Cups for India
by Raman on Jun 04, 2008 09:33 AM Permalink
This type of posting is to Insult Dhoni,when someone says Unrealistic stuff like this in favor of so and so its basically to invite abuse and insult for that player as it is such nonsense that Dhoni is going to do that. Its like threads starting on how great Sachin is and is he a match winner and all that when the popular vote will go that he isnt a match winner and a choker and a selfish player.when people want to hear this they post Sachin the great blah blah
RE:Kapil - 1 World Cup ; Dhoni - 3 World Cups for India
by Maheswari on Jun 04, 2008 01:06 PM Permalink
Dhoni will not be there for the years you have mentioned here.
RE:RE:Kapil - 1 World Cup ; Dhoni - 3 World Cups for India
by Avinash Kadam on Jun 04, 2008 08:55 AM Permalink
Yes Dhoni will beat you and your team in 2011, 2015 and 2019. Anyways, leave aside winning the world cup, I am not sure whether he would be around up to 2015.
RE:Kapil, Sunil, Binny: They are all wastrels. Only Dhoni is Great
by vinay penugula on Jun 04, 2008 08:49 AM Permalink
i think you dont know cricket . you must be talking about some ohter game. make sure what cricket means to you .
RE:Kapil, Sunil, Binny: They are all wastrels. Only Dhoni is Great
by MRM k on Jun 04, 2008 08:48 AM Permalink
He's great man than any other captain India has produced(not a comparision)...during 80's with that kind of strike rate, not much modern techniques & resources, good fielding(which need to be admired especially in Indian team that too during 80's), & ofcourse the bowling...who has the skills with leadership qualities...forget about all these ...who has got the worldcup for India...other than GREAT KAPIL...our hero... & last but not least..they were not paid like these...not much money thru advertisements,.they worked hard to get & reach those kind of miles...it has to be SALUTED...than any other Indian players...(its the fact..not a comparision)...today..you play one cricket match score a 100(doesn't need to know bowling...& not much with fielding)...but still u will be a hero on/off the field (for nothing)...so being greatest during that period (80's) is greatest EVER....
RE:Kapil, Sunil, Binny: They are all wastrels. Only Dhoni is Great
by Avinash Kadam on Jun 04, 2008 08:45 AM Permalink
Are you talking about cricket or gilli danda?
RE:RE:Kapil, Sunil, Binny: They are all wastrels. Only Dhoni is Great
by Sunrise Consultants on Jun 04, 2008 08:50 AM Permalink
by 'Tu' I mean the duffer CBI
RE:Kapil, Sunil, Binny: They are all wastrels. Only Dhoni is Great
by J Nandi on Jun 04, 2008 08:54 AM Permalink
Hey kid ! Why open your trap and display ignorance publicly ?
As someone who has followed cricket since the world Cup, in my opinion it was the best period in Cricket so far for India. For me Kapil has always come across as fair and a true leader
RE:The best period thus far for Indian Cricket
by Maheswari on Jun 04, 2008 01:10 PM Permalink
Well said and we should not thinking about the past always. Let us try to do something for the present and future also to remain Number one Cricket. We have somany infrastructure, players, coaches more than that about Cash Rich BCCI as our cricketing head. Am I correct bloggers ?
"Gavaskar recalled that it was a match that India had to win to enter the semi-final" --
HUH? Was/Is Gavaskar out of his mind? Even if India had lost that game, they would have entered the Semi-final. In fact the Next game against Australia in which Yashpal Sharma scored 80 odd runs (if I remember correctly) was the crucial match ...
Had India lost the Zimbabwe match .. India would have ended with 12 points instead of 16 .. but Australia would still have been at 8 !!
But well .. this is not to take the credit away from Kapil - It is one of the greatest innings, if not the greatest ever, as mentioned by Gavaskar!
RE:Huh?
by Rakesh Mote on Jun 04, 2008 08:39 AM Permalink
I think you are out of mind. You can say now that it was OK if india had lost the ZIM match. Just for your info, on the same day (18 June) match between AUS & WI was on.. so points you are projecting now were not available during ZIM IND encounter. AUS lost and IND won on same day !! So while playing the match it was like do or die situation. Gavaskar was right in calling the innings the greatest OK? Also, in the next match Y Sharam scored 40 not 80 as you wrote but he was the highest scorer !!!
RE:Huh?
by J Nandi on Jun 04, 2008 08:52 AM Permalink
Technically you are right ! But eventually that became a inconsequential match. Even had India lost to Zimbabwe we would have entered that semis, all other results remaining same. Granted, this was known only after the Aus-WI match and not during when Kapil was batting.
RE:Huh?
by Ramandeep Judge on Jun 04, 2008 09:08 AM Permalink
What technically!!!! It was do or die for India. I rembember, hearing on radio. And when they were 17 for 5 our hearts saNK. U and this guy Nandi has no idea whatsoever. Tournament aise nahin chalte.
RE:Huh?
by Bhardwaj Velamakanni on Jun 04, 2008 11:39 AM Permalink
When somebody calls it a "Must win" or "Do or Die" it means that "If you lose You are out!" .. Aus Vs WI match might be on that day .. but India still had a chance to enter the Semis even after the loss ... in other words ZIMBABWE MATCH WAS NOT THE DECIDING FACTOR .. but it was the match against the Australia ...
IMAGINE THE SCENARIO .. IF INDIA HAD LOST TO AUSTRALIA EVEN AFTER THEY HAVE BEATEN ZIMBABWE .. Both the teams would have been at 12 and Aus would have entered the Semis by virtue of a better run rate ...
So, once again, the MUST WIN match was agaisnt AUS not agaisnt ZIM
RE:Huh?
by J Nandi on Jun 04, 2008 08:39 AM Permalink
You are absolutely right ! This match was an inconsequential one, the next against Autralia was the decider. But we Indians romanticise everything. So, when Kapil played that heroic knock of 175 n.o. from being down 17 for 5, we had to glorify it by making it (and incorrectly so) a do or die match, which it was not. That said, Gavaskar is right in saying that was the best one day innnings ever played, though due to the BBC crew strike we do not have a footage of that.
RE:Huh?
by Maheswari on Jun 04, 2008 01:14 PM Permalink
Dont underestimate. If we have lost the match with Zimbabwe, there is no question of match with Australia arose Mr.Bhardwas Velamkanni
RE:Huh?
by Bhardwaj Velamakanni on Jun 05, 2008 08:41 AM Permalink
What do you mean? That was a Round Robin thing - Not a knock out ... India would have played Australia in any case!
RE:Huh?
by Bhardwaj Velamakanni on Jun 04, 2008 11:48 AM Permalink
Yes I do agree about that innings .. I swtiched the radio off when the score was 3 down for 5 .. with Gavaskar and Srikkanth gone for Ducks and Amarnath for 5. When I switched it on again it was 5 down ... I joked with my Dad about Kapil hitting a Century and winning the match for India and he said he would give me 100 bucks if that happened .. hehe .. he still owes me that 100 though :)
1. the best one day innings by an indian: KD 175 2. the best one day bowling by an indian binny vs australia 83 cup 3. indias best match: vs pakistan sharjah india 126/ pak 83 4. the most memorable ball bowled by and indian: greenidge bowled sandhu 5. the most memorable stroke by an indian: yashpal six off willis 6. most memorable ball bowled to an indian(test/oneday): vishwanath bowled imran in pakistan 7. worst ever umpiring decesion in cricket.: arvind de silva caught by inzi at sharjah, given by third umpire? ball bounced on ground but commentator said bounced on inzis trouser" bellbottom "flap
RE:memorabilia
by Ravindra Joshi on Jun 04, 2008 09:02 AM Permalink
Yes... the most memorable ball bowled by the indian is Greenidge bowled by Sandhu... What a dream ball that was.... ops.......
I was a great fan of Kapil and simply brilliant given the circumstances in which this innings he has scored - even after he was accused for match-fixing by Manoj Prabhakar, I did not believe.
But he supported Azhar after Azhar was banned for life for match fixing. I wondered why Kapil who never had good relationship with Azhar (just like Gavaskar) crying wolf for someone guility - maybe he was too! I wish he was not, but it got covered up. And his acquaintance with some bookie in SA only added smoke to fire.
RE:Kapil was great but .....
by Chennai Tiger on Jun 04, 2008 07:55 AM Permalink
Well - its all non-sense to blame BJP & RSS b'cas Azhar was a Muslim (though I don't like BJP or communal RSS). Its fact that Azhar was heavily involved so did Jadeja, Prabhakar, etc & they were duly punished like Cronje & Salim Mallik. There were so many muslims who played for India with dignity and pride (like Kirmani) & several others playing now.
Its easier to use religion to get out of one's sin because that seemed to be the only choice with all other options against them.
RE:Kapil was great but .....
by namrat gaonkar on Jun 04, 2008 08:20 AM Permalink
muslims like you have never ever risen beyond ur religion.At least now set the religion aside folks & join the nationalist stream.Just pointing at the BJP/RSS for every other problem has made you people laughing stcok of the world!!Get out of ur stupid dreams man!!Be atrue Indian first & a MUSLIM afterwards!!
RE:Kapil was great but .....
by suman singh on Jun 04, 2008 09:03 AM Permalink
That's right! when he became the captain of the Indian cricket team, he wasn't a muslim. But when he was found to be involved in match fixing, he became a muslim. Bloody hypocrite!
RE:Kapil was great but .....
by Raja Ivaturi on Jun 04, 2008 06:50 AM Permalink
Kapil made a ery fair statement because even today there was no proof on Azhar's involvement in Match fixing and there is no point in keeping Ban on him especially when others were relieved
