RE:sick mindset
by Rafeeq Ansari on Sep 26, 2007 11:57 PM Permalink
Dear Rakesh, i know we all r on hype of victory, but if u c this r the same guys hu lost worldcup went in hiding. Infact when MSD spoke before match after semifinal-"I want fan followers not fan obsessed" i luv the statement but this parade hole day stopping traffic on one of the busiest area of mumbai on working day signifies how hollow was his statement or just asking people not to beat if lose dont beat. If you want roses on victory than be ready for stones on losing orese reject not partisan. Hockey players won asia cup recently defeating korea n pakistan n china, etc. Football players won nehru cup defeating syria in final much high ranked team-- wat they earned forget money how mamny of us appreciated them.Wake up India , Chak De not for cricket but for all Indian sports. Cricket fetch us two world cup which ten nations only in hockey we won eight oly gold among tensof team.
In my view this article has been written only to catch some controversy nothing more than that. And there are n number of people gets confused between responsibility, charity and entertainment and this is just another example. To live complete life we need to fulfill our responsibilities and do some charity as society given us life (this is not mandatory) and live our life to maximum extent through entertainment as you have only one life to live. Few mix patriotism with entertainment which is absolute rubbish. This forum is for cricket section so the discussion should be on cricket not on responsibility . When we talk about Tsunami then the discussion should be on charity not on cricket. There is an old saying%u2026 Responsibility & Charity are great words when one excludes himself from it . If its not my responsibility then I want entire world to follow it at any cost. One can write any number of pages like above article.
Obviously everything is a business these days. All games are pure business, selling entertainment for price and marketing it smartly by creating hype and euphoria for future gains.
We live in such a world, every one has to think about their own business and be shrewd enough to know when to avoid the salesman, when it is over priced. Every one has a choice. Ofcourse not everyone can understand this may be no educated enough, or drugged by BCCI/Cricket. :) Anyway, that is the way of life.
BCCI is a shrewd business, that is where the other games like Hockey, Chess, batminton, Billiard, etc are lacking even though we have pretty good results in these. They are not marketing their product as well. They should learn something out of BCCI and capture the moment, create some drama and hype when they achieve victories. There is no point in rueing how well cricket is received.
Yes, I did enjoyed the game too a lot, infact I went late to office. Yet I too feel that it is an overdose, probably Gandhi Ji would not have been received that well with such a hype these days. It does have positive effects of people coming together, but again there should be a balance. May be BCCI&Media are are great salesman and cricket is a great product. They have the right to sell their product with full aggression, we cannot cotrol on how they do business. People have their own choice to keep it balanced.
The achivement is definetly a great one. Great commitment, Never giveup attitude, Self
RE:Drugged by Cricket
by Sravan Chitiprolu on Sep 26, 2007 10:33 PM Permalink
The achivement is definetly a great one. Great commitment, Never giveup attitude, Self belief, Team work. May be people could take some inspiration out of this and apply in their daily lives, that which is in their control. But leave it at that, it is not your life, it is not your acheivement. People take this to heart and get deeply disturbed when it goes the other way.
Its just a game.. WIN or LOOSE. Enjot it while you can and move on. Easy saying than implementing with the environment around, isn't it. ;)
It seems you really can't appreciate anything. And talking about the state of our country ,its people like you who make it worse by becoming a problem rather than being a part of the SOLUTION. Shut you ABNORMAL...... whatever you are.
I fully agree with the author of this article. Cricket is yet another sport. It is ridiculous to see that 3-4 million dollars have been give in award to the team and one player has been given an expensive car. It is interesting to know that BCCI has so much money. There is no doubt that players should be awarded but not like this. BCCI should donate a major portion of its earning for the benefit of common people--like building hospital or some other noble cause. We are a poor country and money earned through cricket should be used for the benefit of common man.
RE:I fully agree
by uncle shame on Sep 26, 2007 10:23 PM Permalink
yes. bcci should rather think of donating at least a part of their earnings, may b 5%, on upliftment of other sports, so far neglected in india. Any way, they r getting so much of tax exemptions on their income, they can part away with a portion of tax so saved, on other sports.
I bet all you do is do you work and earn money and go back home and sleep. It is easy - really easy - to write such articles - but I am sure YOUR contribution to the society is zero. I would have given thought more about this if let's say Javed Akhter jee wrote this - but I give a damn to your article. Please make sure not to be a part of any celebrations - be it any birthdays or marriages because they would be waste as per you - but a hypocrite you are you would attend these. You just can't digest people celebrating something that you don't. It is absolutely ok to rejoice and enjoy and cherish this moment as much as we want. Harsha, stay inside your closed home and do what you want - we don't care - but just SHUT UP.
This article is pure ridiculos. I do agree that the victory ceremony was more political than it was suppose to be. When Italy , England won the football and rugby world cup their players were given the same reception, and the players deserved it. Instead of appreciating the achievement of our boys , you are bringing poverty, and weak infrastructure into their success. This is not a place nor the time for that. If you do not appreciate indian tem success you should step back and let others enjoy it, instead of whinning about the indian politcs and poverty. Next time you complain about the infrastructure, think what have you done to improve it. Its easy to sit and write and complain, buts it harder to act on things. Action speak louder than words, and this article is all fart no shit.
RE:A rubbish article.
by Sarath Chandra on Sep 26, 2007 09:41 PM Permalink
While agreeing with most of what you said Adrian, it must be pointed out that other nations treat "any achievement" proudly and provide grand reception to teams/sportsmen in whatever sport they win. India, on the other hand, doesn't give a damn about achievements in any other sports and erupts at even minor achievements in cricket, hyping them up to world beating level.
RE:A rubbish article.
by joydip bhattacharya on Sep 27, 2007 10:10 AM Permalink
Don't you see Sania Mirza not even there in Top 20 in world has got so much fame in India and abroad ....Only because She is an Indian.......Do you know anyone in the world with so lowly ranked hyped so much in the Tennis circuit.......Let someone become shampion and then you say we don't provide them their due.
It might be a bit uncomfortable to accept. But Jhaveri's right. One can argue that the 20-20 team won the world cup, and that it is very important.
Viswanathan Anand does much tougher things day in and day out, and so did Paes and Bhupathi in doubles consistently over the years. The fact is these other sportsmen have a much tougher competetion than the Indian cricket team which deals with only 7 other test class teams, with lots of easy matches against teams. Logically, if we are really celebrating acheievement, Vishy Anand must be the biggest sporting icon in India.
Further, this 20-20 tournament is now on the map, only because India won. Nobody would have taken it seriously, if say NZ or WI or any other team won it. At most, it would have been considered a successful exhinition event.
Let's not kid ourselves. This is a good achievement. But most teams didn't even take this seriously. Now, after winning, we might say this is great. But if India didn't win this, this 20-20 tournament would have been much (and a lot) less relevant than the upcoming series against Australia and Pakistan. Reality changes, based on result. Twenty20 is great, because India won in this format. It wouldn't have been, if India lost.
RE:Jhaveri's right
by joydip bhattacharya on Sep 27, 2007 10:14 AM Permalink
think of the sport ....Can you think how many families in India may be living in earnings from Cricket...and now with Cricket Leagues are coming up I will see it as a very good profession for many youth Indians......so its quite natural Cricket will have the upperhand as it is more close to our society........Even a poor guy(only thing required Cricket Talent) if he succeed he may end up with huge money in his life...........So it is giving a hope to our youth.....
RE:Jhaveri's right
by Adrian on Sep 26, 2007 09:46 PM Permalink
Sarath when Indian sportsman win they should get their recognistion, and just because the tennis duo, Anand and the hockey team did not get the same recognition does not mean we should not celebrate the 20/20 victory. But not appreciation and recognising this 20/20 victory is also wrong. Two wrongs don't make right. Yes, I do agree there is a disparity between cricket and other sports in india.
We must as sports follwer celebrate each victory with equal vigor. Plus you saying that our team had a easy ride no team took this event seriously is nonsense. We didn't have the so can big 3 and zaheer in the tournament. No one gave us an outside chance of winning this tournament. Our young team fought hard and played without fear. Plus if no team took this game seriously , you wouldn't have seen the dejected face of smith , pointing, or Misbah on his knee crying.
RE:Jhaveri's right
by Sarath Chandra on Sep 26, 2007 09:53 PM Permalink
Adrian, I do agree with you. Only words are a bit different. Those who played did play very seriously. What I meant was most weren't sure how important this tournament is. Ponting said so himself and boards dropped many senior players. Also, one of the reasons why the big 3 in Indian team dropped is because they thought of preserving thhemselves for bigger tests ahead (while also recognizing their unsuitability). Surely, if they gave this the same kind of importance as the 50 over world cup, they would have made themselves available for selection.
Other than that, 2 wrongs don't make right. So we must celebrate well. But I am not sure this is as big an achievement as is made out. I don't think anybody would have cared, even a 100th of what they cared for the 50 over world cup, if India didn't win.
If people want to celebrate, let them do so. It is not like these people are on the streets and celebrating every day. May be you may want to write about people wasting their time in going to political meetings and movies. Thousands of man hours is wasted when people go to movies...but man, movie is an industry too. Today cricket is a business and industry by itself. Just people like to go to a musicial show they go to a cricket match. It is an entertainment. Let them enjoy. Let them celebrate.
RE:So what???
by uncle shame on Sep 26, 2007 10:53 PM Permalink
crickets. yes as u compare that ckt is like an entertainment such as movie, the same ckt is converted into a melodrama event. in movies, everything is fake, similarly here also matches are fixed to increase the public interest, for establishing the t20 version, indo-pak final is 'arranged' and more fuel is added to ppl's psychology by declaring the match as a dharma yuddha.
RE:So what???
by sameera on Sep 26, 2007 10:25 PM Permalink
i think u dont know how to read. the author did not deny the celebrations of viewers but only said that a lot of money gets poured into a game which is in away worthless when so many people are suffering. if i was the captain i wud hav advised my team to share the extra money among the poor who actually need it because this was only a bonus. if not all of it atleast a part of it. instead of giving Yuvraj a Porshe 911, the money could have been used to help people who dont even have slippers to wear wen they walk in the hot sun.
RE:So what???
by Cricket s on Sep 26, 2007 11:15 PM Permalink
I think you did not get my message. Stop people telling what they should do with their money. BCCI is a private body and let them decide on how they want to celebrate and spend their money. In the meantime, fight with your Govt to stop them from stealing money from various Hindu Temples, work with your local Temples so that money contributed to Temples can be used locally for the needy. FYI - Lalit has already set up charities and is giving money to the needy in Rajastan. Again, it is Lalit who is paying the money out of his pocket. Stop telling how people should spend their money
