RE:RE:Do you think India Pakistan final was fixed?
by India on Sep 26, 2007 10:43 AM Permalink
The final shot by Misbah was a real giveaway. It looked like he was gifting the catch to Sreesanth. He just lobbed the ball to Sreesanth. Misbah could have easily hoiked to long leg for a six or pulled it sqaure leg for a four. But it was gentle shot making sure he made it easy for Sreesanth to catch the ball. It looked very suspicious. 4 balls and only six runs to score but then you gift the wicket away? Match fixing? Looks likely. Pakistan was very much in control of the match after those 6 sixes in the end stage. But then they lose? Looks fishy.
RE:Do you think India Pakistan final was fixed?
by radio mirchi on Sep 26, 2007 11:20 AM Permalink
To India, This is not true. Infact Misbah took position before the ball was bowled and J Sharma adjusted the length and direction of his delivery well to fox Misbah into a false shot. (He bowled a slower one too). This is the fact and Sharma deserves all accolades.
RE:Do you think India Pakistan final was fixed?
by Shashi Dharan on Sep 26, 2007 12:09 PM Permalink
you are not fit to have the name u have taken. It is below dignity to reply to your crap, but it is difficult not to slap your comments. Why would Pak hit 6 sixes in the first place if the game was fixed? And is this book-cricket? "..could have easily hoiked to long leg for six?...". Please watch Cartoon Network or POGO, and leave cricket to people who have played the game or know something about it.
RE:Do you think India Pakistan final was fixed?
by venkatesh iyer on Sep 26, 2007 03:52 PM Permalink
Mr.India if you think the match was fixed then why did you watch the match till last over. If match was fixed then why misbah and tanvir hit sixes in harbhajan's amd srisanth's over. It was a mishit in joginder's over by misbah.
RE:Do you think India Pakistan final was fixed?
by Sarath Chandra on Sep 26, 2007 05:11 AM Permalink
Well Ritesh, I think it is irresponsible, and very unfair on the players, to make claims that the match was fixed.
One thing that is true is that, the only way for twenty20 to catch up is, for India winning the world cup, and nothing better than beating pakistan in the final. With India having won the cup, suddenly twenty20 becomes a format of the game that has to be taken seriously, because India takes it seriously. Ofcourse, India has to take it seriously to gain any respect for this triumph. Also, from now on, twenty20, is commercially viable and will stay, something that the ICC would want. I am not sure this would have happened is India lost in the first round.
However, pulling off such a fix officially is impossible and I don't think bookies have anything to gain in making the future of twenty20 secure. In short, it is highly improbable we saw a fixed tournament or match.
RE:Do you think India Pakistan final was fixed?
by Ravi Shankar on Sep 26, 2007 01:17 PM Permalink
"Sarath Chandra - I don't think bookies have anything to gain in making the future of twenty20 secure. In short, it is highly improbable we saw a fixed tournament or match."
Bookies don't have anything to gain? Lots of new leagues, lots of matches, lots of bets and lots of money to be made. Sounds to me like they have everything to gain.
Although I can't help thinking that it all ended up a little too picture perfect, I'd rather give the benefit of doubt to our young side and congratulate them on some excellent performances.
RE:Do you think India Pakistan final was fixed?
by Sarath Chandra on Sep 26, 2007 09:12 PM Permalink
You are right, Ravi. I didn't think completely, I guess.
congratulations ! well done. dhoni appears to be in kapildev's mould. while his personal performance in 20-20 game has been somewhat sub-par, his positive attitude reminds one of kapil's 1983 approach.
RE:indian cricket team
by Shashi Dharan on Sep 26, 2007 12:13 PM Permalink
Did u throw stones at his house just a few month's back? It is people like you who get carried away with just a single tournament, that is the bane of India. Dhoni is a 'shishu' in front of Kapil.
RE:indian cricket team
by KS Ramanathan on Sep 26, 2007 03:17 PM Permalink
why no word about Robin singh? he did a splendid job as a fielding coach. earlier when the team fielded badly, he was taken to task. but when the team did well, there was no word about Robin. it is really sad.
I think the indian cricket selectors should go and unearth talent in other states than metro's. Cricketr's like yuvraj, dhoni, r.p. singh, joginder singh, sreeshanth and rohit sharma are there in plenty. But the authorities need to concentrate and find out talented cricketrs from small states. I have played cricket and have seen such talented crickets wasted as there were on opening's for them. Ebcourage yong under 19 team menbers to perform in senior level and see the result. Players who are above 30 should not be considered in one day internationaltion's/ We need Laxman, Ssachin, Dravid only in Test where we need skill rather than spirit and enthusiam. We need to groom youngsters who can take place of sachin, ganguly and dravid in near future. Otherwise we will suffer like west indies who were a great grat side but due to retirement of most senior players west indies is place lowly on rankings.
RE:indian cricket
by vishal raghuvanshi on Sep 26, 2007 02:11 AM Permalink
when did age become a criteria for selection?? Good is good no matter how old. remember one robin singh!! if we go by your criteria then he should not have been in the team.
RE:indian cricket
by radio mirchi on Sep 26, 2007 11:16 AM Permalink
What about Jayasurya? He performs better than any other Srilankan. People like Dravid/Tendu can turn the match upside down, even today. I don't think most of these 20-20 guys are going to perform well in 50-50. Ofcource they will be better fielders.
come on man..... who told pakistanis are uneducated.....the are very well educated on terrorism, their madarssa's tell them how to create terror attacks in india nad other countries... madarssa appears for many as school but in fact I think it is a school of religious preaches( they destroy young muslims and teach them that their religion only should exist in this world and other religions should be perished....such was their shelfish attitude) along with some terrorist lessons..................... come on young muslims ,understand that all religions have their right to live in this world.... dont encourage those who divert you away from this world.... pakistan is is really playing with the lives of our indian muslims who otherwise have a feeling of bhai-bhai with hindu brothers and sisters.
hey muslims of india( with good attitude to our country) wakeup... let us make their tricks in vain
I am not at all against indian muslims.... many of these indian muslims are very good( Infact I have many muslim friends).... but what I mean to say is few muslims in india are being diverted by dirty country pakistan.... I mean to say that those people who are getting diverted should think that that they r born in india and are living between many religions( i.e., great country which allows all religions live together in peace)..... I want everyone to save this peace for future also.
As we all noticed that T20 is more suitable for young and strong players. Although it is just 20 overs, but, it is physically very demanding game. The drawback for Aussies was the age factor only. Smart move by BCCI for selecting a Young Team.
RE:Good decision by Dravid to opt out of T20 World Cup Team!
by Jagannadh Raju on Sep 26, 2007 01:00 AM Permalink
Age is not the factor. Only the experienced Hayden and Gilchrist could score some. How could you say that?
RE:Good decision by Dravid to opt out of T20 World Cup Team!
by Sanjeev Verma on Sep 26, 2007 01:12 AM Permalink
I think that fitness not age should be deciding factor. Robin Singh is an example of fit player even at advanced age, whereas Ramesh Power is an example of unfit player at a young age.
come on man..... who told pakistanis are uneducated.....the are very well educated on terrorism, their madarssa's tell them how to create terror attacks in india nad other countries... madarssa appears for many as school but in fact I think it is a school of religious preaches( they destroy young muslims and teach them that their religion only should exist in this world and other religions should be perished....such was their shelfish attitude) along with some terrorist lessons..................... come on young muslims ,understand that all religions have their right to live in this world.... dont encourage those who divert you away from this world.... pakistan is is really playing with the lives of our indian muslims who otherwise have a feeling of bhai-bhai with hindu brothers and sisters.
hey muslims of india( with good attitude to our country) wakeup... let us make their tricks in vain
RE:pak
by syed fareed hussain on Sep 25, 2007 10:55 PM Permalink
Hi everyone, Y all hindus think that every muslim is a terrorist, we indian muslims r not like that, islam is a good religion, islam wont tell to be a terrorist, islam wont tell to kill any one, islam tells us to live with peace, and we muslims follow that, the people who r terrorist wont belong to any religion, just they want to make public be in fear, may be they born as muslim but they dont know islam, coz of them dont blame to all muslims, we indian muslims want to live in peace, islam is a peace religion. And dont blame to madarsa's, they teach only to follow the rules of Quran.
RE:pak
by dred on Sep 25, 2007 11:50 PM Permalink
To "syed fareed hussain"
Syed: Welcome your post. I am a hindu, and i do NOT consider every muslim a terrorist. And there are millions of hindus with this opinion.
There will always be some hindu hate mongers that do not understand that verbal assaults are no less than a terrorist hurling bombs at others. stop spreading hate.
RE:pak
by praveen sebastian on Sep 25, 2007 11:33 PM Permalink
Dear Fareed,you are very right about what you have written. Friend we should live our life as brothers as one nation,people like you should not be singled out. It is all our dirty politics makes it unclean human actions. Ignore people who write irreleant things. God Bless you.
RE:pak
by Aravind sai on Sep 26, 2007 01:34 AM Permalink
hi fareed bhai... I am not at all against indian muslims.... many of these indian muslims are very good( Infact I have many muslim friends).... but what I mean to say is few muslims in india are being diverted by dirty country pakistan.... I mean to say that those people who are getting diverted should think that that they r born in india and are living between many religions( i.e., great country which allows all religions live together in peace)..... I want everyone to save this peace for future also.
RE:pak
by raj on Sep 26, 2007 12:02 AM Permalink
Your first stement was wrong.. its not all Hindus.THere are only few fools or politians play this game.When Irfan took 3 wickets and won match for India we enjoyed and not thought about his religion. So dont worry much about some poor posts. As anyone can write you need to bare with some sh.t.Enjoy the moemt of Indian victory and forget about everything else.
"First of all I want to say something over here. I want
to thank you back home Pakistan and where the Muslim
lives all over the world."
It is a world where Muslims, Hindus and a Sikh currently
play for England, where Buddhists, Muslims, Christians
and a Hindu play for Sri Lanka, where Hashim Amla turns
out for South Africa, where a Patel plays for New
Zealand, where Muslims, Sikhs, Christians and Hindus
play (and have always played) for India. Why would
Shoaib think, then, that the Muslims of the world were
collectively rooting for the Pakistan team or that they
felt let down by its defeat? He thinks Pakistan team
is a Muslim team that plays for the Muslims of the
world?
Shoaib the bowler who took your wicket was called Irfan Pathan, the guy who was hugging Indian players, was one Shah Rukh Khan. I feel a residual distaste in even mentioning their names because both Shah Rukh and Irfan are admired in India for what they've achieved, not who they are.
If a so called soft spoken leader thinks like this imagine what is common mentality of all his team mates and all Pakistanis.
It is this kind of mentality, pressurised poor Youhana to change his relign to continue his cricket. Made danish kicked out of the team.
Ho god please save this people and treat this sick minds as soon as possible.
RE:Please treat this sick minds
by Narasimham on Sep 26, 2007 03:20 AM Permalink
Well said. I was stunned with Shoaib Mallick's post match statement only thanking muslims of world. So many other Pakistan Captain's have given statements congratulating the winning teams,good and bad movements pertaining to the game only,they never mentioned about muslims. Pakistan Cricket Board and Shoaib Mallik owe an apology to the whole world. After all this is a sports platform and not a religious congregation.
A lot of people here have argued that senior players (read Dravid, Sachin and Ganguly) should not be selected anymore because the youngsters have won the T20 WC. Some of them say that the presence of the seniors in the team would hinder the performance of the youngsters.(This is a not a valid argument anyway).Actually age should never be the criteria, as long as the players meet the standards and are performing above those standards they should be in the team, irrespective of the age. So the people who still think that senior players should not be in the team, instead of writing here, why dont they ask the BCCI to change their rules and have a retirement age for players? Just a footnote: Check the scores in the last one day series in England and see who were the top 2 scorers in the series from India.
RE:Age Limit for the team?
by Sarath Chandra on Sep 25, 2007 10:18 PM Permalink
If performance were the only criteria, the seniors cannot be dropped now. However, to improve the team, I personally think that Ganguly has to be dropped from the side. I thought he was dropped fair and square, when Dravid took over. But now he is, in fact, playing well, and it is unfair to drop him. But something has to give way to strengthen our fielding, and he seems the weakest link of the big 3 right now.
RE:Age Limit for the team?
by Sanjeev Verma on Sep 26, 2007 12:51 AM Permalink
I think that fitness not age should be deciding factor. Robin Singh is an example of fit player even at advanced age, whereas Ramesh Power is an example of unfit player at a young age.
