The kind of messages that one gets to read is amazing! Granted one has the freedom to say what one thinks, but hey guyz, there is something known as responsible opinion, and also not unnecessarily vilifying any one person. Bob Woolmer was a respected person, and his memory deserves all the respect we can show him. All these hate mails flaying around convey none of the respect due to him. It aint fair to a genuinely decent bloke like Inzy. Can we please wait for the investigation to come up with some conclusion, b4 re-diff message board members call everyone around "Murderers"?
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by Ujjwal on Mar 22, 2007 12:38 PM Permalink
Dear Srilatha, they r famous persons, but not necesarily decent and innocent. If U want everything 2 to be proved, then it is very difficult. Few things U need to understand. Nobody is saying who is the murderer nor anybody is disrespecting Bob Woolmer. It is very true that not only Pakistan, but all other coutries game (specially big and crucial ones) are pre-planned and fixed. In this not only Mafia's, but all players and Board Members are equally involved. They all make us foooool by giving fake statement and expressions in front of camera. So its better to wake up, accept the truth and just don't pay so much attention to this cricket matches, wasting time and invite tensions in your life. Just enjoy it and forget it. Remember whether they r losing or wining, they r making huge money, beyond our imagination (more than several crores/arab's). For this amount of money, its quite possible that murder takes place. Who's and who....that time will tell.
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by Srilatha Ravichandran on Mar 22, 2007 12:54 PM Permalink
If indeed everything is fixed, then why waste our time, energy and breath on the pursuit of all these things? No, my friend, they still mean something, to many of us, if not to all of us. This is the outpouring of an anguished person, seeing the state of affairs. I am not yet a cynic. Yes, we can hang everybody...the cricketers, the corporates, boards, book makers, mafia ....but how about accepting some of the responsibility for the situation? Is this not the state of our nation as a whole? Why blame only cricket? Perhaps if we were to be a lot less indifferent, more involved, less self centred, perhaps then we could cast stones at others? Until then, ponder....
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by Ujjwal on Mar 22, 2007 01:14 PM Permalink
The Ministers, Mafia's & even lot of Celebrities, cricketers and businessmans, brokers of stock markets r doing certain things, which is not possible for lot of people to think in, so we are not ready to accept that. Keeping one eyes closed doesn't bring night. We all r sleeping from years. Time has come to wake up. its upto U what u decide to do.
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by Srilatha Ravichandran on Mar 22, 2007 01:31 PM Permalink
Ujjwal, you hit the nail on the head! Your list says it...politicians, celebrities, cinema stars, stock brokers, cricketers...and the huge python that feeds on all these, the "Media". But who is responsible for the "media"? We my friends. Everytime we watch a channel indulge in sensationalism, based on hearsay, or somebody's version of something he heard or saw, we encourage the media. Everytime we send a SMS saying that so and so is responsible for the loss of the match, or so and so is guilty of this or that....trial by media, or a three-ring-circus? We deserve what we get because we allowed things to reach this stage, now we cant go aorund blaming mafia, politicians, book makers...we are all silent collaborators too. Are we ready to accept that?
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by Srilatha Ravichandran on Mar 22, 2007 07:39 PM Permalink
I agree with you. Being conscious about the direction we are headed in is the beginning of the reform. People like us can only do silently, bringing positive thoughts about. Best of luck to us in our swim against the tide!
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by Ujjwal on Mar 22, 2007 02:05 PM Permalink
Its good that at least U accepted that all these things are happening (media responsible). But what I am saying, eveything media is not flashing out. U need to understand something. Media hype is a different thing. Media has done lot of good things also. For the last several years, SCAM is going on, but today we are aware of few of them because of this media. Right now we r helpless to stop these things, but we r not silent. Its true that one individual cannot bring the radical change, but at least our thought can affect the scenario. Our motto should be try to aware people as much as possible about the reality, forgetting our personal egos. I hope U'll agree with me.
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by Srilatha Ravichandran on Mar 22, 2007 12:15 PM Permalink
Life indeed is that simple, its only the viciousness in one's thought process that is puring forth as such mind-numbing accusations. And, hey, I am not naive, merely saddened...
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by Rajeev Kalra on Mar 22, 2007 12:27 PM Permalink
HEY Raghu,it may not be as simple as ought to be but indeed there are good people.aren't you there.case in point our own country... only 3% people are 'BAD" but ssince we do not discuss balance 97%,it seems as if we all are bad.naah,it's just state of mind.start discussing good things and we'll forget everything else
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by Srilatha Ravichandran on Mar 22, 2007 12:34 PM Permalink
Reading the messages around, one gets the distinct feeling that there is only one point of view floating around, and that is the negative one. It is this same viciousness that reflects in the extreme position we take when India loses. Agreed India played a bad match against Bangladesh, but do you rip apart our national team like that! No my friends, we ought not to. We should stand by them. Frankly, if I were Rahul Dravid, a really really decent cricketer and human being, I would begin to wonder if it is worthwhile to represent these kind of extremist fans. do we really follow the game? or are we indulging in plain malice?????
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by Rajeev Kalra on Mar 22, 2007 12:42 PM Permalink
how correct.Sri,actually our pendulum swings to extreme ends.we love to love & hate them to eternity.Comeon,let's be little more supportive.And are we successful in whatsoever we attempt at,NO.Then why such a hue & cry if we,God forbid, get eliminated.Infact,it's media & companies who are pomoted by these super heros crucify them
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by Ujjwal on Mar 22, 2007 12:46 PM Permalink
Dear Rajeev, What is the definition of good and bad? Who r those 3%. Everybody is good and bad. Nobody is perfect. but the question is upto what extreme. We r talking abut the possibilities and some sort of bitter truth, which we have to find out.
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by Rajeev Kalra on Mar 22, 2007 12:53 PM Permalink
great.you are more than correct when it comes to differentiating between good and bad and your reasoning hitherto.The only way to find the difference is to refer to our 5k year old,ancient civilization.Society doesn't decide right or qwrong,it's indivduals who take the deccision.Remember,sex,live in relationships,bribe,so on,so forth were considered to be "BAD" but has become part of our society.Will you ever allow your family member(s) to be part of this so called relationships,No should be the reply and that's my answer to your query.
