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by on Mar 12, 2007 08:35 AM   Permalink | Hide replies

It is good that Bengal hating messages are on the decline.
It is time to talk about the team and players instead of regional biases.
Regarding Dravid's obsession with Sehwag it can be said that cricketers have their peculiarities.
Saurav also once gave too many chances to Dravid out of his affection to him.
Not scoring at all or scoring at a snails pace, Dravid was kept in the team by Saurav even as an wicketkeeper.
Dravid similarly find s a bowler in Viru and keeps him in the team.
But Dravid has backstabbed Saurav. No doubt on this.

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by Suman Bhat on Mar 12, 2007 01:10 PM   Permalink
It is not dravid but ganguly backstabbed dravid during ZIM tour by vomiting dressing room conflict in front of media after scoring a 100 in 300 balls. It it was dravid who mediated between chappell and ganguly ehen they had problem in ZIM. It was ganguly who used dlamiay as godfather when dalmiay had power in bcci and backstabbed him by sending email mag against dalmiay just 2 days before the CAB election
it was ganguly who backstabbed dalmiay by chnging party and helped mumbai big boss to dethrown dalmiya from CAB,
it was ganguly who used politicians influence to pressure the selection commitee. not dravid
if dravid is politician cricketer why he would have been a role model to so many young cricketers? why ICC gave him 3 awards which did not happen to any other cricketer? Why he won Castoril cricketer and batsman of year 2006 ( 4 tims in last 10yrs and sachin also won 4times )?? Why he would have been won MTV Youth ICon of award??? Even knowing that 2 ex captians are fighiting for captaincy along with chief selector are breathing his head , why he is fighting with board for players contract . or fighting against crap statment of vengsaraka about pathana and sewag?? Dravid earns respect of his teammates b'cuz he performed cosistantly for team under pressure. Not by showing his authority on field as a captain?? check the last 6-7 yrs team ind won record in odis and tests/. read stat about dravid's contrubitons in partnerships... ganguly take credit for success of other players and team victory but dravid shared the credit of team win. dravid shared dias while doing press breifs when team won ..had ganguly ever did like that?? When team defeated he pushed dravid to face media...


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by on Mar 12, 2007 08:06 PM   Permalink
D waited like a wet cat.
He behaved like a trusted deputy to S.
On the offside first God then Ganguly, he said.
Waited for S's bad patch.
Manufactured the story of S being a politician, lazy etc. floated by him.
C the coach was convinced through conspiracy against S.
KM the selector was the spokesman of the conspirators united.
The change of guards at the Board also helped. D posed as pro board and S was painted as anti Board.
The exit was unceremonious and at a time when the bad patch of S was fizzling out, he just scored a century.
The conspiracy was not for correction. It was deadly and aimed at finishing S.
D is the spearhead. Whenever S's name came for selection he vehemently opposed.
That S was determined and made a comeback is a different story.
That S had fan followings all over India, in the media,among the politicians, film stars is a different story.
That D wanted to quickly manufacture a left hand replacement of S in the form of R or P just to block his comeback is known to all.
Support D as a captain, no way out, but do not forget history.
Throw away the copy paste reports of D as a great captain in the garbage bin.
One has to be a good human being first than anything else.
Inspite of being nutured and supported by S in his bad times D did this.
How can you respect D, my dear copy paste copy cat?


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by Suman Bhat on Mar 13, 2007 11:48 AM   Permalink
you are nothing but senti(mental) blindly on Saurav. yes. you have all rights to be so whom you are so much attached with. Nevertheless, you can not accuse / thro mud on every one for proving your point. I differ with the point that even sachin did not support gangu during his trials. But remember that no one in the team wanted to support gangu, which shows that no one liked the so called dada. It was true by the reports and facts that Sauraw encoraged groupism and was trying to divide the team at that point of time. As a matured person he should have obeyed the coach's guidlines but the dada was acting smart by trying to over rule the coach. Saurav that he is going to be the everlasting captain of team India. The team, coach, selectors are really replied him very nicely by not supporting him. Forget how good a player is - he is bound to be dedicated, deciplined and team oriented. I really respect and carry great regard for Sachin.not because he is one of best cricketers in the world. but because of his attitude. He is the guy we respects every one. despite being top in the world cricket. Ganguly was very selfish and never placed team on priority. He was very sentimental (like you) and get carried away by emotions. But Dravid is very composed, calm and is willing to sacrifice his positions even to late middle orders for the sake of team. If you just ask gangu to bad at one man down - then you will see what he is going to utter to the media. for get what people like u will start telling - all in the team are stabbing gangu by forcing him to bad at no 3. please come out of your egg shell. India and the world is much bigger, dear friend!!!


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by bharat on Mar 12, 2007 11:40 AM   Permalink
Hope some of the blind devotees of Ganguly would also reciprocate by talking about the team as a whole rather than harping about one individual!

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by on Mar 12, 2007 07:59 PM   Permalink
D waited like a wet cat.
He behaved like a trusted deputy to S.
On the offside first God then Ganguly, he said.
Waited for S's bad patch.
Manufactured the story of S being a politician, lazy etc. floated by him.
C the coach was convinced through conspiracy against S.
KM the selector was the spokesman of the conspirators united.
The change of guards at the Board also helped. D posed as pro board and S was painted as anti Board.
The exit was unceremonious and at a time when the bad patch of S was fizzling out, he just scored a century.
The conspiracy was not for correction. It was deadly and aimed at finishing S.
D is the spearhead. Whenever S's name came for selection he vehemently opposed.
That S was determined and made a comeback is a different story.
That S had fan followings all over India, in the media,among the politicians, film stars is a different story.
That D wanted to quickly manufacture a left hand replacement of S in the form of R or P just to block his comeback is known to all.
Support D as a captain, no way out, but do not forget history.
Throw away the copy paste reports of D as a great captain in the garbage bin.
One has to be a good human being first than anything else.
Inspite of being nutured and supported by S in his bad times D did this.
How can you respect D, my dear copy paste copy cat?


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