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by ravi kiran on Apr 29, 2007 12:18 PM   Permalink | Hide replies

CHAMP IS AUSTRALIA.
SRILANKA GAVE A GOOD FIGHT BETTER THAN INDIA AND PAKISTAN

most of the tv commentators & experts says that the great indian batting lineup is best line up in the world ever had,but after seeing the aussies batting in such a big preesure finals(1999-2007) i dont know why the experts still say so.
1)can ever sachin plays a fine knock as gilchrist played insuch a big events.
2)is there any 50-100 run partnership for the first wicket in any big events from great indian line up..
3)does any one have minimum aggressiveness in our team.
4)it is foolish to compare rahul's aggressiveless captancy to
ricky or jayawardene.

our team spirit is dead.there is no puss in the team

i sincerely request rediff management to ask our cricketers to go through these many number of messages.

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by sameer shaikh on Apr 29, 2007 12:34 PM   Permalink
Do you know about Sachin Tendulkar record in Finals. For more accurate figures log on to cricinfo for players analysis and scoring. Everyone must have rememebered, under Ganguly Captancy India lost 21 our of 23 finals. Only final India won was natwest and drew with sri lanka in 2002 champions trophy. Everyone will be surprised that Tendulkar failed in all the 22 finals, which India played in the last 7 years, even in the natwest, which India won. Also whenever there is a do or die game, Tendulkar shows his back and fails. The only last time, he played well at crucial final was in sharjah against aussie in 98. After that, he is just playing for money

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by ballijepalli aditya on Apr 29, 2007 01:00 PM   Permalink
why is everyone behind sachin...wat abt out sehwag...he cant even touch de ball & dravid who is hopless but still remains de catain & harbhajan who cant spin for nuts....wat abt al dese players...who hav never performed.....not in de world cup.... blame dem tooo

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by sameer shaikh on Apr 29, 2007 01:06 PM   Permalink
Don't do averages and other things? You are calling me fool? Just see the cricinfo website proper, there is statistics and analysis section somewhere you can find on google. I am not saying Tendulkar is bad player. He was marvellous, but only till 98 final against australia in sharjah, but that time he was averaging around may be 90, but if u see tendulkar average after 98 final in sharjah, you will see he failed in all the 23 finals which he played under Ganguly and Dravid.. All, even the natwest we won where kaif and yuvraj won.

Bottomline. Tendulkar was master in 90's. He is just finished and playing, because every year he is getting around 200 crore with endorsementr and contracts.

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by Muralidhar Rao on Apr 29, 2007 12:45 PM   Permalink
You are absolutely correct. But people just look at their overall records which is flattering but useless.

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by Sri Atluru on Apr 29, 2007 01:00 PM   Permalink
great statistics...

why only sachin... why did everyone of 11 players fail in all 21 matches...

and by the way, i did do something on cricinfo as u suggested...

tendulkar played 36 finals (out of a career of 384 matches until now) till now at an average of 47.96 (career average 44.05) with 4 hundreds and 9 fifties as well as 17 wickets.

ponting played 38 finals ( out of just 280) at an average of 41.93 (less than career average of 43.03) with 2 hundreds and 7 fifties

gilchrist 31 finals ( out of 268) at average of 39.79 ( career 36.00) with 3 tons and 5 fifties.

lara a9 (of 299) with an average of 28.16 (career 40.48) with 1 ton and 2 fifties.

grow up guys... tendulkar gives the most of all players everytime... or atleast till a couple of years back... the reason why he is unable to win matches is because he plays with 10 other fools and plays for a nation of 1 billion people who derive more pleasure in flaking their heroes.

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by sameer shaikh on Apr 29, 2007 01:05 PM   Permalink
Don't do averages and other things? You are calling me fool? Just see the cricinfo website proper, there is statistics and analysis section somewhere you can find on google. I am not saying Tendulkar is bad player. He was marvellous, but only till 98 final against australia in sharjah, but that time he was averaging around may be 90, but if u see tendulkar average after 98 final in sharjah, you will see he failed in all the 23 finals which he played under Ganguly and Dravid.. All, even the natwest we won where kaif and yuvraj won.

Bottomline. Tendulkar was master in 90's. He is just finished and playing, because every year he is getting around 200 crore with endorsementr and contracts.

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by ballijepalli aditya on Apr 29, 2007 01:17 PM   Permalink
keep talkin nonsense....do u know dat his battin average in de 90's was 42 & from den on he is averagin at 44 to 45....N he has scored de maximum runs in de previous worldcup 673 runs... n only he played well in dat world cup.... n who doesnt run behind money dravid does.... uttappa is a jack ass who doesnt know how to bat but even he has done endorsements....wat do u say abt dat... huh

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by sameer shaikh on Apr 29, 2007 01:28 PM   Permalink
You stop your nonsense. I said Tendulkar batting average was good and in 90's in only in finals... remember again... in finals.... finals his average was very good in 90's... Listen again Tendulkar was master and won many cups like Hero Cup, singer Cup, Titan Cup, Wills Cup, Independance cup in bangladesh and many under azhar and that time he was playing best and his average was in 90's in finals.. but after than 98 final in sharjah against australia, he failed in all the 21 out of 23 finals... MEaning after 98 cup, he not only became inconsistent, but failed regularly in finals

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by ballijepalli aditya on Apr 29, 2007 01:03 PM   Permalink
well said my friend...finally some support for sachin....gud research too...ur right he plays wid 10 fools n is being critisized by 10 other fools here...

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by ravi kiran on Apr 30, 2007 04:38 PM   Permalink
my dear fool i clearly mentioned can ever sachin plays not can ever sachin played.

it is high time for sachin to retire from odi
some type of fools cries only for not supporting sachin, sachin is not only my idol but also for many. think from the bottom of ur heart and express and send your reply

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by Sri Atluru on Apr 29, 2007 12:44 PM   Permalink
gud point... i however disgree on one... sachin had not played such a good knock as gilchrists of late and may never play again... but i will tell you of one that is probably the best ODI innings in history...

the 142 at sharjah against australia...

that innings was such beauty... just for the way sachin batted... pure class... not power like a gilchrist, hayden or dhoni...

forget the man of matches, man of series... that was the only time in history of ODI that an award of 20,000 pounds was announced even before sachin was out for him providing the best entertainment in the history of the game...

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by sameer shaikh on Apr 29, 2007 01:08 PM   Permalink
If you think, Tendulkar is good, then support him and again keep hopes on 2011 world cup, where even we will be knocked out by bermuda them.. because to win world cup we need one tear away fast bowler like lee or akhtar. We are 100 crore and cant produce one bolwer who can bowl more than 150 kim hour and also we need all rounder like flintoff or kallis. unless we get these guys we will never improve

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by ballijepalli aditya on Apr 29, 2007 01:23 PM   Permalink
hey get ur facts right...u don need to be 150 kmph bowler if u can bowl 135 consistently with control over line n length u can do wonders so start grooming kids to bowl gud line n length... why do u think mcgrath has taken so many wickets he is not fast nor is vaas for dat matter....wats de point of bowlin fast if u cant control in...

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