The whole episode started when Kiran More became the Chairman of Selection Committee and started politiking. There was a case of 10 lacs offer the Abijit Kale Case. if you remember. Sacking of Ganguly as captain at the behest of Chappel was the begining of the end of killing cricket as a sport in India.
I firmly believe that had Ganguly been the skipper, he would never have dropped Kaif who is India's best fielder.
Blaming the coach is not the point here, it is attitude of the entire selectors with vested interest and some of them have gained noterity over a period of time (la Bedi) who is a nusaince value and gain undue importance at somebody else's cost.
Better is to go back to Ganguly and appoint him as skipper and then ask him for results. He is the only skipper who knows no regional affinity when it comes to selecting players and also gets the best out of them. This is SOS
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by anshu on Apr 22, 2007 10:49 PM Permalink
Why do you all, are blaming each other like this, can't we all give some good suggesstions? And yes, I feel that the whole team has to go and new faces have to come, who can atleats play with some zeal. Just forget the old war horses, they are over.
RE:Not Chappel but Kiran More and Company started the whole soap opera
by Ganesh Rammurthi on Apr 22, 2007 10:56 PM Permalink
Better "the known devil than the unknown" is the logic. The same guys have given us results remember or still waiting for the young brigade to deliver ????????
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by Cricket s on Apr 22, 2007 11:04 PM Permalink
what result are you talking about? We were never a consistent team under Ganguly or Dravid. Just because someone makes a noise, takes his shirt off ...does not mean that he is a good captain. 50% of one-day wins is a good record? that includes winning 30/31 matches against minnows. 23% of one-day matches we won when playing outside the country. It does not matter who the captain is, India is a poor one-day team. Test matches - 9/21 wins came agt Zim and B'desh. You can give captaincy to anyone over 5 consecutive years with SRT, VS, RD and VVS at their peak of their batting...they will be able to show you 20 victories.
My point is...Ganguly as a good captain is a myth. My second point is, stop this 'move fan' attitude of clinging onto one player. Our team is more important than Ganguly, SRT or Dravid.
RE:Not Chappel but Kiran More and Company started the whole soap opera
by Ganesh Rammurthi on Apr 23, 2007 06:10 AM Permalink
Either your knowledge is adequately enough or not, I do not know, remember our reaching the finals in the WC 2002. There have been winning streaks and remember no one uses his brain better than SG, his typical language irritates even the Aussies. Remember past is the foundation and if your fundamentals are right then everything falls into place. His attitude of Tit for Tat, had raised the average Indian image abroad. You have to have memory of even Sehwag complimenting SG for his excellentt capataincy and man management. I do not have any grouse against Rahul, but by putting the burden of Capatincy on his shoulder, his performance has also taken a dip.
RE:Not Chappel but Kiran More and Company started the whole soap opera
by Cricket s on Apr 22, 2007 10:59 PM Permalink
1. There was cricket before Ganguly and there will be Cricket after Ganguly. Ganguly is not the solution to every cricket problem. In fact, if Ganguly retires now that will solve half of the problems. 2. Politics - Ganguly is planning to enter politics after Cricket. We never had a player who entered the team via back-door without proper domestic performances to back it up. Sponosors and politicians helped SG to come back into the team. That is setting a bad precedent. Now Shiv Sena is talking about protests for SRT. 3. SG had poor performances before he was dropped. the team was consistently losing. SG was playing politics with help of Dalmiya to retain his place in the team. 4. Kaif was dropped by SG during the Zim tour in spite of Kaif performing very well in the one-day series including a century against NZ/Bond 5. It is the player's attitude that must be questioned. 6. Appointing SG as a captain is like going two step back. A guy who averages 40 runs over 10 years (in test matcches) should never be in the test team.
RE:Not Chappel but Kiran More and Company started the whole soap opera
by overblown on Apr 22, 2007 11:04 PM Permalink
you moron laras average was 52 something so a average of 40 is quite good. The best of players average around 50 so 40 over 10 yrs is not that bad.
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by Cricket s on Apr 22, 2007 11:08 PM Permalink
first discuss based on facts. stop abusing.
40 average is good? not in this day and age man. VS, SRT, Dravid all average above 50. In those days very good batsmen averaged above 50. But they were very few in numbers. These days, every team has at least 2-3 players who average above 50. Even VVS averages close to 50 since 2001.
40 in this era is an ordinary record. There is a very huge difference between averaging 50 and 40.
RE:Not Chappel but Kiran More and Company started the whole soap opera
by kuntal banerjee on Apr 22, 2007 11:59 PM Permalink
go and check ur cricketing knowledge..!!! and then come to speak........ganguly has the best one day avg after sachin.........ganguly had the best batting avg against SL and SA......do u think they are minnows........???
