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by Suman Bhat on Apr 23, 2007 12:12 PM Permalink
ganguly is selfish, oppertunist, cheap politician ganguly betryaed dalmiay, dravid and sachin gnaguly promoted gropism and destoryed odi career of laxman and kumble odi winning average diff ganguly and dravid is only 1% while ganguly led team for 146 ois dravid only 63 matches ganguly was captain for 5yrs while dravid not even 2yrs
Lack of commitment, fighting spirit, negative body language, playing for self recores, to cement place for next matches, sponsers, poor fielding, trying to expose each on the field, promoting groupism etc.. Has coach told instructed for all these?? chappell's big mistake was he treated all players alike, equally and push the players from comfort zone. many superstars were taken their placed for granted.... winning and defeat depends on performance of XI players on the field irrepective of coach, captain, pitch and conditions. SL is playing superb cricket None of senior player /ex captain m envied mahila%u2019s his promotion as captain From the outset they gave unstinting support. they remained hungry to perform and did not rely on reputation or popular support to protect theanguly and sachin should have fought battle on ground rahter in dressing room both may successful to get rid of chappell but both players may not play WC2011
DNA newspaper reported that it is sachin, ganguly yuvraj and sreesant signed contract till 2011. this resting and discussion media speculation are just eyewashing business nobody has guts to remove 2 super starts rrom the team BARBADOS, April 9:
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by Indian on Apr 23, 2007 12:30 PM Permalink
there is another joke section here in rediff. go and post ur messages there. Thanks :)
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by Indian on Apr 23, 2007 12:31 PM Permalink
Sumanbai, there is another joke section here in rediff. go and post ur messages there. Thanks :)
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by aatank on Apr 23, 2007 12:30 PM Permalink
u immature soul!!!! cant help you u'std, but this is what he has achieved.There is a way to do everything, he need not tell anyone to do anything, thats what management and masterminds are about
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by aatank on Apr 23, 2007 11:54 AM Permalink
This is whathe has done, problem is there any many more like sameer and girish rao, whom chappell was able to convince.. you forgot my dear friends, on the way to the finals they had 8 successive win with a 'NOW OR NEVER" given by saurav and the team rallied and HUDDLED around him, he was the leader Chappell wanted knew, being around his plans wouldnt complete, luck can be once, not again in australia and not again in pakistan and not again in natwest finals...
See what chappell has come and achieved getting paid for it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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by aatank on Apr 23, 2007 11:56 AM Permalink
and to add that on the way they gave crushing defeats to pakis and sri lankans at peak of their mights as well, inzy was younger and so were murali vaas and jayasuriya then, so were south africans, so were english guys[england... they didnt defeat only minnows...!!!!!!!!!!!
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by Suman Bhat on Apr 23, 2007 12:13 PM Permalink
politician ganguly and VC sachin failed in WC agaisnt SL . sachin failed against bangladesh also. Board/selection committe rested 2 super star players for odis b'czu has both were become sic and tired of dressing room politics.ganguly played negative cirket and gifted match to bangaldesh and Sl ganguly is main culprit for WC debacle. ganguly betrayed dalmiaya, sachin and dravid.team ind in 2004 failed in england in ICC trophy team did not win any series in SA when ganguly was captain team had many humiliated defeats by kiwis ( 56 all out lowes odi score for team india) ausses WI and pakistan take out dravid's performance and ganguly success average as captain will be lower than sachins sahme on politician ganguly promoting groupism and spoiling sports man spirit of younger players encouraging them for petty politics
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by Indian on Apr 23, 2007 11:59 AM Permalink
45% of Indians are illiterate and 90% are uneducated (some literates also). why r u wasting ur time sharad ?? Let them be happy if they think Saurav is criminal/politician or bla bla bla, when India will start loosing again then they will find some other scapegoat and accuse them as criminal/politician etc etc. Only Dravid will remain as the holy cow.... let him be the holy one. Don't waste ur time....
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by Sameer on Apr 23, 2007 11:42 AM Permalink
"--- Saurav takes India to world cup finals "
Really if we remember it was inspired performance of Sachin and not Ganguly... kicking Ganguly was good decision and that is the reason that guy is back to form... similar treatment to Sachin and Sehwag will bring them back to form and it will be good for cricket!!!
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by Atal Advani on Apr 23, 2007 11:52 AM Permalink
hahaha i agree with you on that ganguly needed a kick on his butt those daze in zimbawe but i guess he got it a wee bit too hard dont you think so but its ok its the past and now the good thing is hez functioning at about 70 % capacity thats more than good enuf...but but but well sehwag ka to baat hi muth karo ......in cricketing history I have never seen a worse player yaar ....kumble and mcgrath bat far far better than sehwag and he is still in the team imagine how much money he would have paid dravid and the nexus is unthinkable and sachin needs some mental alignment with the game and he will fire like never before
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by Rahul nanda on Apr 23, 2007 11:50 AM Permalink
wow...so it was SACHIN....LUCK AND BOWLING....
SO WHAT HAPPENED THIS TIME...SACHIN WAS THERE....LUCK COMES WITH GOOD KARMA....NOT ASSOCIATED WITH DRAVID....BOWLING....DIDNT WE HAVE SAME BOWLERS LIKE LAST TIME.....
DONT TELL ME THE REASON WE WON LAST TIME....TELL ME WHY WE GOT HUMILIATED THIS TIME....IF U SAY THIS IS JUST A BAD LUCK....
WHAT HAPPENED IN CHAMPIONSTROPHY IN INDIA???? PLEASE REPLY
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by Suman Bhat on Apr 23, 2007 12:13 PM Permalink
sachin and ganguly are main culprits for wc debacle. and there were huge public opinion against sachin. But strong mumbai lobby will never let down theirlocal hero. and vengasrakar wanted him to captain. resting ganguly and sachin is eyewashing exercise. And many ex cricketers, media cricket experts had not guts to spaeak against these 2 super starts. the lack of commiment , passion , poor body languge or groupism or petty politics played against captain and coach.. both ex captain are fighting for captaincy behind scens. so they have to prove dravid is not good captain . but dravid started well wining 18 odis in chasing and won test series in WI , histoirci test match win SA, and odi sereis in WI.Chappell report was right in pointingout these dressing room politics and some players undermine dravd's captaincy and not to led by skipper . As per some news report tendulkar and ganguly had last laugh that they got rid of chappell and next terget is dravid Indina express poll 75% favoured dropping sachin and ganguly for odi series against BL 80% ppl approved bcci move to drop senior players TOI poll But this did not bring any laurales to ex captains.they are looser b'cuz there is no guarantee that sachin ganguly will play next WC and in many public polls more than65% voted in favouring the bcci decision to rest superstars while dravid's supports to retain him as captain increased even after ongoing dravid bashing articles.. 80% of cricket associanton (survey in ndtv) supporte dravid. 50% voted for dravid in IE express,. IBN CNN survey 86% ppl voted for dravid..48% voters is voted dravid to be captain by big margin. .cricketvotes.com Sachin may be living legend but he is no more bigger than team or game SL is playing superb cricket None of senior player /ex captain m envied mahila%u2019s his promotion as captain From the outset they gave unstinting support. they remained hungry to perform and did not rely on reputation or popular support to protect their places. Ganguly and sachin are considered better odi players than dravid but had advantage of opening and play more balls tandulkar calibre players should be able to play in any position and dravid played from No1 to 7 as per team requirement
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by Suman Bhat on Apr 23, 2007 12:16 PM Permalink
during WC03 sacin batted brillently and dravid did keeping for team cause to add one more extra batsman and srinath bowled to his heart? where was captain when team required his service? sewag and dravid scored in final match MOST IMP IN Wc 2007 IT SENIOR PLAYERS BACKSTABBED DRAVID. MAINLY GANGULY?? any win WC match would have harmed the record of ganguly ganguly and gang had major role in WC debacle rather than dravid's captincy?/ WHAT ABOUT TEAM EXIT IN 1ST ROUND DRUING CHAMPIOSN TROPHY 2004 IN ENGLAND ?? Q2 team ind won champions trophy not b;cuz of ganguly leadership but rain spoil the game and SL and ind delcared joint winnier 3 ganguly only promoted groupism. LAXMAN KUMBLE Were not fitted in his group and shown door even after the good performance.?? team selection during ganguly's cpaticny done by dalmiay and ganguly both were fullpower thought nobody will dethrone them from the seat ganguly is selfish oppertunist, he is not only promoting goupism,but spoiling sportsman spirit of younger player like bajji, zahi, dhoni by encouraging to play petty politics Pls highlight dravid's contributions to gangyl's succes as captain if ganguly is great leader or sports mand ( as u think) should have reciprocate 50%what dravid has contribted for his success of five yers. gangulu had last laugh that he got rid of chappell and humiliated dravid but He is looser see public poll result almost 50% supported dravid's captaincy and mejority favoured the decision of resting sperstares for BD odi series. Before WC debacle if there was poll for captaincy 90% would have voted for ganguly and many turned to dravid, yuvraj, sachin... some channels like ndtv, news papers go on dravid bashing ( see the jadeja's comments) and praise ganguly...even ganguly marketing stretagy/ flamebouncy is not helping...
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by Atal Advani on Apr 23, 2007 11:51 AM Permalink
hahaha i agree with you on that ganguly needed a kick on his butt those daze in zimbawe but i guess he got it a wee bit too hard dont you think so but its ok its the past and now the good thing is hez functioning at about 70 % capacity thats more than good enuf...but but but well sehwag ka to baat hi muth karo ......in cricketing history I have never seen a worse player yaar ....kumble and mcgrath bat far far better than sehwag and he is still in the team imagine how much money he would have paid dravid and the nexus is unthinkable and sachin needs some mental alignment with the game and he will fire like never before
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by Girish Rao on Apr 23, 2007 11:44 AM Permalink
it was the combination of good bowling, luck(Kenya semi-final opponents) and some occasional good batting(Sachin) that took us to final. In the finals we were thoroughly exposed.
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by Indian on Apr 23, 2007 11:51 AM Permalink
better than getting exposed to bangladesh in the first round ??? at least we beat Kenya twice in 2003 Please girish give us break :)
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by Girish Rao on Apr 23, 2007 12:06 PM Permalink
of course it is better. If we had somehow beaten Bangladesh and qualified for Super 8, Australia would have hammered us for 500 Runs.
