Isn't it a example for Dravid? I wonder how greedy this freakin' cricketer could be! Even after such a disasterous and shameful performance it's really pathetic that Dravid didn't step down as captain.
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by circuit on Apr 14, 2007 04:58 AM Permalink
ok mr.. why mr dravid has to step down? india was in a tough group with 3 test team playing . so any one could have been knocked out from that group.. where pakistani had the most easiest group in the tournament.. and still they suck big time..
RE:Atleast he is true to himself
by Suman Bhat on Apr 14, 2007 10:31 AM Permalink
WC debacle is due to some senior players deliberatly played negaitive cricket and let down team. not b'cuz of dravid's captaincy. 2 star ex captain should be ashamed of pathatic performance.
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by mrpaki on Apr 14, 2007 05:49 AM Permalink
Pak was in a group with 3 test team playing as a matter of fact everyteam was in the group with 3 test playing nation if pak sucks india aint no better as a matter of fact pak was able to beat a test playing nation india only beat bramuda now that sucksss
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by circuit on Apr 14, 2007 07:02 AM Permalink
yes we all know how grt paki team is... they only beat zimba... who lost to bd 10 times in a row and get ur fact rite..zimba is not a test team for the time being. paki cant even beat ireland and w.i. the bottom 2 team in super eight.
at this moment srilanka is no 1 asian team by far then it should be india and then its the bangers whoz way better team then pakis.
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by AandTattey on Apr 14, 2007 12:02 PM Permalink
Whatever said, Pak first went out of WC, though being in easy group....
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by mrpaki on Apr 14, 2007 07:30 PM Permalink
easy group? and india was in tough group? how so? pak/WI/irland/zem and ind/sl/bd/bramuda WI and pak on papar will be tough irland zem easy. india group ind sl tough bd and bramuda easy all the groups were equally tough and equally easy. quit whining
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by mrpaki on Apr 14, 2007 01:29 PM Permalink
Whatever said, Pak first went out of WC, though being in easy group... duhhhhhh pak started off before india when india was playing their 1st game pak was playing there 2nd they were both knocked out after 3 games. what point r u trying to make what matter is they both are not running for cup anymore . on over all perfmance of who is better team in the past(currently they both suck) check the statistic pak vs india test summery Host Tests IND PAK Draw Tie Series 56 8 12 36 0 india has won only 2 test in pakistan while pak has murdered india in india 5 times let see what one day over all record looks like 108 40 64 0 4 again india has won only 10 odi in pak and pak has beaten india in india 15 times and india has acctully won only 6 games again pakistan in india.Total at neutral 62 24 36 0 2 so what u gotta say and pak has better record then india aginst all the test playing nation. wake up from ur sweet dream. team hindi aint good was never good with exception of 2003 and 04Y
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by mrpaki on Apr 14, 2007 07:49 AM Permalink
india was among the bottom 3 on icc odi ranking before the cup started and will be there for next few years. now since bangladash is taking over u guys india the worst team in sub contiant
RE:Atleast he is true to himself
by Gurubhai on Apr 14, 2007 11:49 AM Permalink
You people can kill your coach then what can be expected from you...You know why Inzamam quit captaincy coz he knows the mentality of Pakistani People they will not hasitate to kill them if need. Younus was right for not accepting the leadership as he also knows the mentality. At least Indians have heart to forgive but not pakistanis
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by TDH on Apr 14, 2007 08:01 AM Permalink
Chandan, I don't think Dravid can or should resign as captain because there is no suitable replacement, the vice captain is not performing himself, Ganguly is too controversial, and yuvraj (in my opinion a possible candidate) is not prepared. India should buy time until someone younger is ready.
Younis normally comes across as a very positive and tenacious person, but he is also a very emotional fellow, and is probably very disturbed and traumatised by the losses at the world cup, Mr. Woolmer's death, and the subsequent treatment meted out to them by the police and public in general. he is probably not thinking very clearly right now. Did you know,that the South African team had psychiatric counselling after Woolmer's death, it's a little too late but i think PCB should also arrange for something similar.
We as cricket fans should try to put ourseves in these players shoes, and remember "Do unto others as you would have others do unto you".
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by Remulla Kumar on Apr 14, 2007 09:18 AM Permalink
Why can't we take a new guy as a captain like NZ and SA did (Fleming and Smith)
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by Chandan Jena on Apr 14, 2007 11:05 AM Permalink
You are the only guy who spoke my mind. What I mean by saying that Dravid should have been stepped down because it's the job of the management to find a replacement.....perhaps we they could have taken a better decision of finding an entirely new captain.
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by sandeep sharma on Apr 14, 2007 10:11 AM Permalink
even if u make ponting captain of india they will still loose like this.you cant win matches with team of jokers and selfish players ok.and dont say about youngsters, indian youngs are as pathetic players as our heros
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by Chandan Jena on Apr 14, 2007 11:11 AM Permalink
Well......And guys please don't be biased....give your honest opinion....Dravid may be a good test player but he is not a good captain. He does not have the leadership quality, he is not inspiring and his bowling change, field setting are not convincing...and he does not take any decision of his own (lack of confidence). If you still think a caption does not have anything to do if players fail....then please think again! Captain is the leader and it's job is to lead and inspire so that everybody will play as a team. And if you still think that all the other players are shelfish except for Dravid, even then it will be useless if he becomes the captain because anyway the team will fail. I an never against Dravid as a person/player.....but I am against his captaincy because of the facts I mentioned above.
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by Gurubhai on Apr 14, 2007 11:56 AM Permalink
You mean to say that Sachin should be made captain? - If Sachin is made captain then all hell will cut loose coz he is in controversy of Cutting Indian flag in form of Cake..which is not acceptable. or Ganguly? - If he is made captain then it will be a step back for Indian cricket and groupism and Gangs will come into fore. Now you are having Yuvraj Singh who is a brawler and controversial, He dose not even know what he speaks, and you have Mohd. Kaif who is more out then In....... The bottomline is we have to groom a captain..to be a Indian captain is not an easy job in world cricket...and by the way why should we follow what other countries are doing let us have our own identity and stop being a follower.
RE:Atleast he is true to himself
by TDH on Apr 14, 2007 12:33 PM Permalink
Gurubhai,
Imran in his younger days was a womaniser, we all know of Wasim's pot smoking incident, and more recently Shane Warne's sex scandals, it doesn't make any of them any less of a cricketer (infact all of them were better than most). I don't think anyone cares what these people do off-field as long as they perform on-field. I personally don't care if Yuvraj is a brawler and also don't understand how cutting a tricoloured cake is disrespectful.
Logically speaking Sachin, Ganguly, and now Dravid more or less leave alot to be desired as captains. Yuvraj has a spot in the team and (correct me if I'm wrong) has captained India in Under-19, now since you can't import Aussies to play for India, you have to make do with what you've got, and I think Yuvraj makes for a good contender. Make him the Vice-captain and hand over the reigns in the next year or so.
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by Suman Bhat on Apr 14, 2007 12:00 PM Permalink
other players' motivation shud be questioned. ganguly played like a match fixer in all the matches in this WC. he played slowly in the match against bermuda too. against bagladesh he was terribly slow. he must be grilled by anti corruption sleuths questioning his intentions. dravid's odi batting average against SA and australia is better than ganguly and sachin both are opeining batsman? but dravid batting in outside india against strong bowling line up is better than ganguly and sachin ganguly was non performing captain for later 3yers of his captaincy but survived in team b'cuz of influence of dalmaiy. ganguly did not deserved to XII man team b'cuz his poor form and pathatic batting but he did not loose captaicny it is unfortuante 2 ex captains are playing petty politics in dressing room with the strong marathi lobby and politicians support sachin and ganguly great players should fight battle on ground no more backstage politics if senior players are not supporting captain why don't blame the individual players dravid played under leaderhsip of sachin and ganguly he gave 100% to team, supported captain and perfomed against all strong teams and won many odis and tests. Why not so called super stars can not reciprocate it He trusted sachin, ganguly bajjik dhoni zahir will support him but was backfired by these senior players How many times did india defeat australia before chappel became the coach. Everytime india meets australia they are thrashed convincingly. Now guys dont say that since john wright was from NZL which is close to australia plotted last world cup's finals defeat. recent DNA newspaper reported taht some senior players signed ad commeerical contracts till 2010 and nobocy in bcci has guts to remove these players or any action against them ganguly betrayed sachin, dalmiay and dravid
