1) why r u referring so much abt mumbai biasedness of BCCI. why at all the question. Sachin is not bad enough to be dropped. so there is no question of mumbai biasedness and then concluding that he will not be dropped bcoz of power and company. At the first place this question can not arise.
2)If you think that sachin speaks on chappel just bcoz of his reputation, then its ur thinking. Everybody is entitled to think in their own way. I don't think so. I think he said so bcoz he was hurted. Its duty of media persons to not consider that full context, rather postmortem each sentence and each word and draw inference from that. when sb speaks then he speaks in a flow and by a collection of sentences he tries to convey what he feels. and of a series of sentences sth may come out in between by which sbelse draw sth else. its not fair. Instead of doing postmortem on each and every sentence ppl shud give attention on whole context, body language. that gives more clear picture and gives the totality. sachin is not like president or PM of india, so that his speech wud have been prepared and analysed by lot of experts. He was speaking on the spontaneously. And in spontaneous speech its quite possible that u speak some sentence trying to convey sth and ppl can draw entirely different thing from that. bcoz there are so many intellectual and honest media person in india waiting for scrutinize us dialogue sentence by sentence and word by word.
3) regarding ur mention of double century episode in pakistan: Its obvious that sachin wanted to complete double century and feeled unhappy after declaration but he may not be wrong. All players relishes their personal achievement. And if u say player shud not give a dammn thinking to their personal achievement then all players are wrong not only sachin bcoz all players try to make that. It become problem only when it came at the cost of team interest. If it is aligned to team interest then it is perfectly ok. so we have to judge that whether sachin intention to make double century was against team interest? If it wasn't then there is no problem. We can't scrutinize him just bcoz he wanted to make double century. who will not prefer that. So lets decide whether it was against team interest. According to leaked information there was continuous communication between sachin and dressing room, and they settled with some number of overs. sachin was playing according to that. and then yuraj got out and dravid declared before the settled number of overs. and sachin was unhappy on the fact the they settled on sth and ended with sth else. unhappiness was not just on not making double ton but also on the fact that sb din't keep the promise. so here sachin was not doing anything against team. he was doing only that was discussed. So I don't think it was wrong. You can argue that he shud have increased the run rate without needing all those dialogue. But there problem was not of run, it was of remaining overs in the day. India has already scored more that 700 runs. that was enough to win the match. So even if he played a bit slowly causing 25-30 fewer runs, it doesn't matter. whether team score 700 or 730 it doesn't matter. both are enough score. and issue was blown by media. on that day sachin and dravid had personnel meeting and after that everything was fine. sachin did just one mistake. on his way to pavelion media person asked "r u unhappy". and at that moment he was really unhappy and said exactly what he was. he said he was taken by surprise. that was the only mistake that he did. spoke those two sentence to media. everything else was fine. players are also human being. basic nature of human like feeling sad, feeling happy, daily small small liking unliking and differences can happen to players also. Its basic nature of human being that can happen to the writer of this article too. But when these things happens to our daily like then nobody knows. At the same time if it happens to players, issue used to be blown out of proportion by media and we started raising national character. basically the reality is very small matter but what we come to know and perceive becomes a big thing like question mark on player dedication,character etc. Tell me one thing. Aren't our soldiers, who go on border and die for country and known to be patriots, involve in daily life differences within their society. They used to be. And it is bound to happen irrespective of anybody profession, be it player or soldier or engineer or doctor. Because we are first human being and then any professional. The only difference is that when sth happen to normal person nobody knows. but when it happens to celebrity or players who remains under media scrutiny, issue used to be blown by media. and then activity which are part and parcel of daily life become question of national character. So problem is not with sachin or dravid. It is with media.
3) sachin desire to open: what is the problem if sachin thinks he can help the team batting at opening slot. Every players used to have fix position and they like that. ponting come at one down. gilchrist and hayden comes as opener. jaysurya is opener. lara and kallis is middle order batsman. Some players are suitable for particular slots. Also, if sb play for a long time on some slot he is bound to have affection with that slot. So if sachin feels he can play more freely at opening slot what's the problem. He has been playing on that slot since 1994. Don't u think that if sb play at fix slot for 12 years then he won't feel comfort and affection for that slot. If u don't think so then u r not human being. Sachin just said his liking and preference. He said when media person asked the question. He didn't call a media interview and declared his preference to put pressure on chappel. He just gave honest reply to a question without any wrong intention. what's wrong with that. Don't we expect honest reply from sachin if we ask sth. And finally he did what team wanted against his personal preference. Isn't it sufficient. what do u want. u want to control his liking also. Can any human being control that. Happiness, unhappiness, preference are the essential part of behaviour that u can't control. U can give a rational thought and decide what is better and take decision accordingly. But u cannot control those behavioural characteristics. Sachin did the same. Although he has particular preference, he gave a thought and decide that whatever team management saying may be valid and did bat down the order. Isn't that sufficient. If u think that his reply may have caused some chaos then guilty is the media who asked the question.
CONCLUSION: EVERYTHING IS FINE IN WORLD. ITS MEDIA WHO MAKE EVERTHING WRONG. ITS MEDIA WHO CONVERT BASIC NATURE OF HUMAN BEING INTO QUESTION OF NATIONAL CHARACTER. HENCE PLAYERS ARE FINE, WHAT THEY DO ARE ALSO FINE, BUT THE ROOT OF EVERY ISSUE, EVERY PROBLEM IS MEDIA.
RE:media sulk- amazing
by dtr on Apr 06, 2007 02:06 AM Permalink
Hey Mukesh,
I could taste the sense of aristocracy in each and every sentence of yours, just like I expect from an average Indian. 1. Sachin is bad enough to be dropped if there are too many better (selfless) players available, to be selected, at this point in time.
2. He was hurt, I agree with you, but who cares. He was spoiled by stupid cricket fans. If he is hurt, blame it on his fans, who made him God. He has a terrible attitude towards team spirit, since a long time. 3. Every player relishes personal achievements!! Well I would say most of the players are. But for most of them (non-Indian), team comes first.
It's all about attitude, man. People surprised when he mentioned that, that is why media used it too. That is not the Sachin they used to know. This also meant that, he was not a man of great character. 4. Sachin desired to open. Well, it is not upto him to decide. Otherwise we wouldn't need a coach or a captain. Tell him to respect the team and people who have more responsibility of the team, than him.
Everything is fine in this world, but when you are supposed to be part of a team, it's different. Everything is fine when you are sitting in your own home, not when you are at work.
RE:media sulk- amazing
by on Apr 06, 2007 03:14 AM Permalink
Mr DTR Well your thoughts and what you present doesn't make you above average Indian. The way you have presented your thoughts against Sachin seems as if Sachin slapped you on your face. If an individual is given a task, the individual knows his abilities and responds with the amount of time he will require to complete it. And so does Sachin if he says he wants to open the innings. For past 10 years Sanath Jaysurya has been opening for Sri Lanka. No one in his country opposed and even the changing captains never moved him from the opening slot, same goes with Adam Gilchrist and Saeed Anwar, then why with Sachin. You must be working in a company; you must have always worked with the thought of betterment of the company; haven't you ever desired or wanted to achieve personally, for your own name and acknowledgement. Well Sachin did the same thing by expressing his thoughts for not reaching 200 milestone. The who cares attitude that you have shown is not what an Indian shows. Democracy allows him to express his thoughts and feelings. Brian Lara scored 500 runs in a Test Match; WI drew that match. Hmmm makes me think he was not playing for team. People like you disgrace your own self by writing "stupid cricket fans". It shows your character. I agree that performance of India in world cup was pathetic and sad for Indian cricket fans. But blaming by name is not correct. Lastly to you Mr. DTR, think about this one "In your whole life have you brought name to your country in any aspect (I know you have not). If not, then i expect from you to give a thought for what Sachin has done for India and cricket as a whole. He hasn't killed someone for the type of criticism you have shown".
RE:media sulk- amazing
by Mukesh Kumar on Apr 06, 2007 03:17 AM Permalink
U did the same mistake that the writer of article did i.e focussing on particular sentence than whole context.
1)First point: u already mentioned the answer. Not sufficient player at present.
2)second point, its subjective issue.
3)third I don't think team comes second for sachin. Out of 200 innings if he gave importance to his century in one inning, after feeling that team is well placed, I don't think it is too bad. I also watched the match and felt that sachin shud not have played so slow at the end. But u can't judge the man by just mistake of 30 minutes. Nobody in the world remains perfect all the time. If he gave preference to team in his entire career and gave preference to his inning in just one session of one match then I can't say he is selfish. ppl shud be judged by their average behaviour not by some exceptions. Suppose u r a nice child of ur parent. U always behave properly and once in a life u misbehave with them. That one incident of wrong behaviour cannot make u a bad child. Its general behavior that is important not the exceptions. I feel that in that inning sachin gave preference to himself but I see that as exception.
4) 4th point: whatever u said is right but I didn't denied that. Of course sachin did whatever team wanted him to do. But u can not stop sb desire. What sb desire or like is one thing and what sb actually do is other. Sachin is ok if he desire to open. But in reality he respected the team preference and bat down the order.