The world cup debacle, in my opinion, was inevitable. Only, probably, the degree of ignominy could be less, and the team would have been eliminated in the super eight round. The writing on the wall was clear, given the kind of morale and team spirit that the team was in. Hair splitting analysis of whose decision was to bat first against Bangladesh only proves the point. If the team has to field first to win against Bangladesh only shows the confidence level of the team.
Although the performance of the seniors were no doubt beyond question, the constant pressure from Greg Chappell made the situation even worse for them. Let us be clear that the form of the seniors are on a downhill, but if no visible alternatives are found, then it would be necessary to continue with the same seniors. With this background, what was required of Greg Chappell was to ignite the passion of the seniors and we all know what inspiration can do for making the players challenge their own limitations. Unfortunately, the team management under Greg Chappell saw the worst kind of groupism in the team, with the seniors pitted against the so called budding juniors. What was even reprihensible of Greg Chappell was the way he reacted after the debacle by trying to shift the focus of attention to the 'lack of attitude' of the seniors in the team. By sending SMSs to some friendly journalist was in a way trying to create a ground for the poor show. It was almost creating an alibi ready on the issue.
As regards the blame game that is going on for now, let us be clear that it was this very Gerg Chappell who was basking in all the glory and was on a high tom toming about much hyped 'process' when the team performed well at home. Is it not imperative that as a gentleman with a straight attitude, he should take the blame as well. As regards the incumbent captain, the less said the better and it really does not matter what he says. Atleast, he has the sense of proportion of not talking in the public. He is probably better off on the quiets of Kovalam beach. Interestingly, one could not see any endorsement on his towel.
RE:Who is responsible ?
by Suman Bhat on Apr 04, 2007 11:14 AM Permalink
Winning or defeat in matches depends on performance of XI players irrespective of captain, coach, pitch, stretagy and conditions. Bangladesh and SL victory against India is best example and a captain is as good as his team and it is individual palyer to deicide to suppor team and captain or play for self ?? IF team win all players come forward to take credit then all players will be responsible for the defeat. When chappelll tried to give chance to youngesters many ppl said expereinece required. When experienced failded now same ppl are asking for youngsters%u2026 Ind%u2019s early exit is b%u2019cuz of attitude and ego problem of some players and lack of commitment to team. This WC team India %u2018s early exit, b%u2019cuz some players delieberatley palyed negative cricket and betryed team and dtiched dravid.ateam. If players are not ready to support team cause what capatain.some players fielding and body language was visible that as if they were playing an practice match and gifted match to Bangladesh an early exit from WC means dravid is not good captian and ganguly%u2019s records not harmed When players only go against captain and coach and betray teammates why blame captain or coach??If player can not perform for team what is his role ? He should be kicked out team IF players can get negative inspiration why could not players did not perform for team??how can cricket expert say that captain is not motivating player?/ WC is the biggest event of cricket and those players who get chance to play this on behalf of team India?? A funny joke?? A cptain and coach can not induct inspirationg to any players the inspiration, positive mindtset and right attitude should arise from play%u2019s mind. If a player can get negative inspiration why can%u2019t same palyer what is problem in getting positive inspiration??? Ganguly had big role in defeat in mathch against Bangladesh. He gifted match t o bangaldesh deliberately playing negative cricket just to humiliate dravid and to take revenge against chappell ?? but he betrayed the whole team ganguly wasted more balls than runs he scored poor fielding and poor running wkt and unwilling to take singles cost more runs to team also created pressure on batsman on other side He did not bother to try and hold an easy catch during agarka bowling , Never tried to accelerate run rate He did not tried to hold simple catch during agarkar%u2019s bowling 60 runs in 130 balls how it can help a team cause?? Ganguly had one stage for having batted through nearly 11 overs to make a mere 7 runs. Yuvraj Scored 47 runs in 10 overs India Scored 191 in 50 overs Ganguly Scored 66 runs in 21 overs wasted more balls than runs he scored., Yuvraj Scored 47 runs in 10 overs Rest of team scored 50 in 19 overs Against burmada Ganguly scored 89 in 114 balls wasted 25 balls that is around 4.6 runs per over... compare it to the indian teams average of 8.26 Ganguly was struggling while batting against burmuda, and got 3 lifes Ganguly 7 in 23 balls against SL: Harbajan singh went wktless in 2 matches dhoni failed with bat was laughing when he dro[[ed catch t there were not sight in picture which tv channel shown when India lost ot SL all other players are in tears Tendulkar scored a duck, Ganguly 7 in 23 balls and Yuvraj 6? Dhoni 0?( match against srilanka) zahirkahn was wktless in firest match and in he took 2 wkts against SL but he gave more extra runs b'cuz of erratic bowling. VC captain sachin failed completely with bat coz the players who played all 3 matchs Except dravid munaf yuvraj nobody has shown commitment? ganguly in whole faced 266 balls nearly 50 overs and make only 162 runs, the how much pressure built on bats man other end, not incoming bats man doesn't matter india wins or Lose Ganguly RETURN WAS HYPED BY MEDIA BUT HE WAS NOT IN TEAM UNIFROM ALSO AND HE DID NOT ARRIVE WITH TEAM?? The picute of ind team dressing room which tv channel shown after ind defeat in Sl . all players were in tears but no sight of ganguly dhoni and harbajan!!!! ganguly seflish oppertunist politician ditched dravid and dalmaiy and betrayed team And he can do it anyother players.
RE:Who is responsible ?
by kuntal banerjee on Apr 04, 2007 11:31 AM Permalink
Here comes the famous Mr Suman the core anti ganguly...Ask him why our country is not able to get rid of terrorism , Mr Suman Bhat will say Its because of Ganguly and will come with those scrap data..
RE:Who is responsible ?
by Aloke Ghosal on Apr 04, 2007 12:28 PM Permalink
The point regarding the performance of the senior players is well taken. It is a fact that the batsmen trio did not play enough. Although Ganguly did score some runs, it was merely a shadow of his past. The general attitude of the seniors in the team was score runs enough to secure the position in the team - and this was mainly because of the sense of insecurity brought in by Chappell. The role of the captain and the coach should be more on strategising and inspiring the team members to give in their best. In this role, both the captain and the coach failed miserably. It was clear from the body language of the team - it was like a radar-less ship drifting away. The half-baked concepts tried out by the coach was basically to make a team comprising of 11 sub-standard all-rounders wherein everyone could bat / bowl a bit. Too much focus was put on body fitness and other non-issues. Unfortunately, the desired core strenghts of a cricketer, ie., batting and bowling, was totally neglected. Greg Chappell was a man with a mission to put the team first before any player. This was taken to ridiculous extremes by him and if he states that there was a mafia of the senior players in the team, I would suggest that the real mafia was himself. He was at his abuse and threatening best throwing his venom and on the senior players. If perform or perish is the mantra for the players, so be it for the coach and the captain. It is an opt-repeated cliche that the coach or the captain is as good as how the team plays on a given day. By implying this are we undermining the role of a coach or a captain, or are we suggesting that the role of the captain is similar to that of a tennis team?
RE:Who is responsible ?
by Suman Bhat on Apr 04, 2007 11:21 AM Permalink
team india was broken ship when dravid made captain and ranked No8 in ICC ranking ( even now it is ranked No6)This WC team India %u2018s early exit, b%u2019cuz some players delieberatley palyed negative cricket and betryed team and dtiched dravid.ateam. If players are not ready to support team cause what capatain.some players fielding and body language was visible that as if they were playing an practice match and gifted match to Bangladesh an early exit from WC means dravid is not good captian and ganguly%u2019s records not harmed When players only go against captain and coach and betray teammates why blame captain or coach??If player can not perform for team what is his role ? He should be kicked out team IF players can get negative inspiration why could not players did not perform for team??how can cricket expert say that captain is not motivating player?/ WC is the biggest event of cricket and those players who get chance to play this on behalf of team India?chappel tried to push the palyers comofrt zone and bring professionalism. Many players do not like this Dravdi was the guy showing the fight against SL...but who supported him? Dravid accepted the responsiblity for defeat in front of media he will resign Sewag selection was questioned by Chief slesctor HE IS HIGHESTRUN GETTER Dhoni, harbajan, sachin, completly failed the worst thing there is groupism and politcs in team and it was visible dufing match against SL and Bangaldesh ganguly is selfish politician He and his group deliberately played negative cricket , played big role in defeat and took revenge for his outset. he is cunning politicain not a team man main culprit to sabotage team WC capaign. He betrayed dravid. when he was captain it was dravid performance, hardwork brought him succes as captain. In WX2003 india reached final b`uz of sachins brillinet performance. not b`zu of ganguly`s captiancy or agression. it is ganguly, zahirkahn, dhoni, harbajan should be kicked out..
RE:Who is responsible ?
by Lotiya Pathan on Apr 04, 2007 11:28 AM Permalink
team india was broken ship when dravid was made captain.. ha ha ha very funny.. it was sinking ship when ganguly was made captain.
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by kuntal banerjee on Apr 04, 2007 11:33 AM Permalink
actually correct...India reached WC 2003 final by sinking in the sea...Right Lotiya Pathan
RE:Who is responsible ?
by on Apr 04, 2007 02:51 PM Permalink
There seems to be a lot of talk on how wonderfully we performed in the last WC. What everyone forgets is that then also our performance in the first couple of games was pathetic and fans had given the usual treatment - stone-pelting, effigy-burning etc. - after these two matches. However, thereafter the team performed better and with luck-factor coming into play like SF against Kenya, we reached the Finals where our stars played as they always do in crunch situations. This time unfortunately, two losses were enough to throw us out.
So the difference in result in 2007 & 2003 maybe manyfold, in the performance not much. This highlights the luck factor in Cricket and also perhaps the difference between a winning & losing capatain. Unless of course u play like Australia when every possible factor in the game is figured out, strategised and executed to perfection.
Till then, let us hope to just get lucky once in a while- as we did in 1983.
RE:Who is responsible ?
by Suman Bhat on Apr 04, 2007 11:39 AM Permalink
ganguly fans starts abusing if anybody speaks against his dadagiri ganguly backstabbed dalmiya a fellow bangali he ditche dravid and betray team he can do it his chelas like bajji,zahir, sewag and yuvraj u guys are sic need shcok treatment 4 ur sic brain
RE:Who is responsible ?
by Lotiya Pathan on Apr 04, 2007 11:50 AM Permalink
dravid fans starts abusing if anybody speaks against his chamchagiri dravid backstabbed ganguly he ditche 10dulkar and betray team he can do it with other like bajji,zahir, sewag and yuvraj
