Guys our team cannot win the coming world cups and we know that. This is the TRUTH which we have to understand.
Reasons: Lack of Professionalism. Having poltical players in team(Saurav Ganguly). Different cultures(does matter). No fast bowler. Dump pitches. High media pressure. Mouth watering income from Ads. Playing for their personal records(Sachin). Unnecessary Stardom for useless players(Sehwag). Arogance. Lack of team sprit. And many more......
Still you are hoping ...than Bhagwaan aapkaa bhalaa kare.
RE:Sorry to say but Universal truth is that Indian team cannt win the WC in future
by Suman Bhat on May 02, 2007 11:07 AM Permalink
ganguly is major culpirt in WC debacle. he is selfish, oppertuinist and politician when sachin was captain ganguly gang did perform well team lost and sacchin forced to resign and ganguly gained captaincy Dravid anchoed the success of ganguly as captain but ganguly backstabbed dravid during WC matches ganguly used dalmiay as godfather to stick captaincy even though he did not deserve XII man in team for his poor form and pathatic batting but ganguly ditched dalmiay when dalmiya lost power ganguly cheap politician, promote groupism, and spoil the sportspirit of youngesters by encourging them play dirty politics.He always scored runs for self, saving his wkt to cement his place in team but cost more runs to team helped opposition to win by his loose fielding , not taking singles and poor fielding ganguly shoul be sacked out of team
team did not win all matches when gangly was captian. team had lost in 1st round in champions trophy in 2004 in england and all out for lowest score 56 all out against kiwis. ganguly is not supporting dravid or team when sachin captain ganguly did same thing with ajay jadeja and other senior players. team lost and sachin forced to resign. now ganguly is doing same thing. He will score runs but make sure team will be defeated...to prove dravid not good captain and his record of captancy succes won't harm. but sachin and dravid gave 100% commitment when ganguly was captian. take out ut sachin and dravid's contributions ganguly success will be lowest. Except Ausses no other team won consistantly... all the teams have ups and downs but team won test and odis under dravid captaicy withoout ganguly. dravid is better captain than ganguly. b'cuz captaincy pressure did not afftect his batting.
RE:Sorry to say but Universal truth is that Indian team cannt win the WC in future
by Suman Bhat on May 02, 2007 11:08 AM Permalink
perform well team lost and sacchin forced to resign and ganguly gained captaincy Dravid anchoed the success of ganguly as captain but ganguly backstabbed dravid during WC matches ganguly used dalmiay as godfather to stick captaincy even though he did not deserve XII man in team for his poor form and pathatic batting but ganguly ditched dalmiay when dalmiya lost power ganguly cheap politician, promote groupism, and spoil the sportspirit of youngesters by encourging them play dirty politics.He always scored runs for self, saving his wkt to cement his place in team but cost more runs to team helped opposition to win by his loose fielding , not taking singles and poor fielding ganguly shoul be sacked out of team
team did not win all matches when gangly was captian. team had lost in 1st round in champions trophy in 2004 in england and all out for lowest score 56 all out against kiwis. ganguly is not supporting dravid or team when sachin captain ganguly did same thing with ajay jadeja and other senior players. team lost and sachin forced to resign. now ganguly is doing same thing. He will score runs but make sure team will be defeated...to prove dravid not good captain and his record of captancy succes won't harm. but sachin and dravid gave 100% commitment when ganguly was captian. take out ut sachin and dravid's contributions ganguly success will be lowest. Except Ausses no other team won consistantly... all the teams have ups and downs but team won test and odis under dravid captaicy withoout ganguly. dravid is better captain than ganguly. b'cuz captaincy pressure did not afftect his batting.
RE:Sorry to say but Universal truth is that Indian team cannt win the WC in future
by Suman Bhat on May 02, 2007 11:12 AM Permalink
Dravid is a good captain. Unlike previos captainsr he doesn't play dirty politics. Only thing is he does have some head high players in his team by virtue of their god fathers in the team. He needs to take some tough decisions and start from scratch. Unlike ganguly who took the credit fo victory as captain, dravid shaed the credit wit his teammates. And while ganguly was flameboyuant and used media to highlight self image, dravid was infront of media only on oficical press briefs.. winning and defeat depands on performance of XI players irrepective of coach, captain, players, age, ptich conditions, stretagy.. Bangladesh win against india and SA is best example for that SL is playing superb cricket None of senior player /ex captain m envied mahila%u2019s his promotion as captain From the outset they gave unstinting support. they remained hungry to perform and did not rely on reputation or popular support to protect their places. jayasurya, vaas, sangakara, attapuut all are supporting mahila. SL played as one unit and won games all players performed for team cause. team india lost and early exit from WC b'cuz senior palyers failed to perform when mattered. lack of commitment, passion to perform / win, playing for self records, sponsers, promote groupism many players think they are superstars and not to led by skipper. when palyers becomes politicians team has not chance to win. senior players let down team and major role in early exit of WC ppl blame ccaptain for team ind wC early exit ry easy to blame captain, What about other 10 players playerss the lack of commtiment , lack of passion to win/perform, , poor body languge or groupism or petty politics played against captain and coach spending time in crease for sponsers cause, playing for self records, many players think they are leaders and not to led by skipper, superstar attitude .. dravid played under sachin and ganguly captaincy and gave 100 % commited performance but trusted same from senior players and backfired by senior players and so called super stars. matching orders of team india http://worldcup.indiatimes.com/quickiearticleshow/msid-1807342.cms The real culprits by S Rajesh http://contentgulf.cricinfo.com/india/content/current/story/288746.html
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by Suman Bhat on May 02, 2007 11:13 AM Permalink
RE:Sorry to say but Universal truth is that Indian team cannt win the WC in future by Suman Bhat on May 02, 2007 10:06 AM | Hide message why r u creating false story. recorded vidio coverage of game is proof ganguly did not play for team cause but for self and save his wkt and cement his place. many news paper carried out dravid took responsiblility for defeat and he did not blame any individual players. After WC debacle he thanked players and asked them not blame any individual player it was collective effort. ganguly was not doing briefs when he was captian and team lost matches. It is not indians but U R DUMB and BLIND. How many names u use the post msgs. and why block other's msgs as report abuse.??? check the team ind win last 6-7 yrs and dravid's contributions. it was dravid who anchored success for ganguly as captain NOT B'CUZ OF HIS LEADERSHIP QUALITIES LIKE taking shirts, arguing with umpires, making opposition captain wait for toss, treat team as his own propert etc... Even knowing that sachin and ganguly are in captian.breathing his neck with their back support an bothwere major culprits for WC debacle dravid accepted captaincy. one more defeat will end up his odi career. while 2 ex captain superstars who consider better odi players were fighting battle with back stage politics. INSTEAD SUPERSTARS WOULD HV FOUGHT BATTLE ON GROUND IN WI rather calling shots from dressing room.
RE:Sorry to say but Universal truth is that Indian team cannt win the WC in future
by Suman Bhat on May 02, 2007 11:16 AM Permalink
dravid captaincy is good like ganguly's it is senior players did not support him druing WC read article in cricinfo By S rajesh see the analysis of batsman. it is not bolwers or captain batsman failed to deliver when team required. many players like ganguly, sachin harbajan, zahir undermine dravid's captaincy. ganguly batting only for self he socred runs consistantly but never tried to accelerate run rate or rotate strike always savinghis wkt if team win or loss did not matter he scored runs but he gave more runs to opposition b'cuz of poor fielding. cost team some more runs of poor running between wkt. and sachin being VC failed with bat. Body language of 2 ex captains in 3 matches as if they were playing a practice match. Harbajan never bolwed to his natural stength. b'cuz he thought his cpatian is ganguly but herbajan latest achievement is that he was informed by ICC twice by his wrong action. dhoni is failed in WI and SA he scored runs only in dead ptices of subcontinent. Dinesh karthck is better than dhoni he opened innings and won 20 -20 match in SA . can bat any no.... and since munaf was in playig XI, dravid couldnot play sreesant. After sachin's return from injury from during DLF cup onwards, sachin was doing bowling 6-8 overs regularly and there is no place for 5th bowler. Cheif selector insistied that shachin is also used as bowler. till the DLF cup team won many odis and test without gangulys and tendulkars. stat proved dravid is doing equally good job in a short period of time.Same SL team was beat in india under dravid's captaincy 6-1 without ganguly in team. who told zahir khan to bowl to so many wide and loose balls in crucial matches? He abused sreesant ,If senior players are deliberatly irrospinsible why blaem captain many players do not want to sit in dressing even if out of form.. selection is influenced by some senior players. If sachin insisted agarkar If players had problem with chappell or dravid they should have approched the BCCI rather than calling shots from back stage. both ganguly and sachin are in race for captaincy now, defeat in WC is deliberate attempt to prove dravid not a good captain and ganguly's record as WC captain did not harm. Dravid gave 100 % commitment when he played under ganguly and sachin and he trusted senior players but ditched by superstars.. the odi winning diff is only 1% when compared dravid's succes ( not even 2yrs) with ganguly's success of 5 yrs. Even when ganguly was captain team lost in 1st WC during champions trophy in england 2004 team did win all matches under ganguly 's captaicny he had also many humiliated defeats agaisnt kiwis, aussies, pakistan, WI and team ind did not beat/win SA in SA that did not happened during ganguly's captaincy also under ganguly captaincy team ind played 9 traingular series only 2 won and 5 lost and 2 drawn and team played only in dlf cup and lost it under dravid's captaincy team had many humiliated defeat when ganguly was captain. Except Aus no other team has consistancy in winning. Overall, dravid is doing a better job as captain than ganguly and his batting did not afface by captaincy, while ganguly was non performing captain inlate 2-3 yrs of his captiancy. but survived b'cuz of dalmialys' influence.
RE:Sorry to say but Universal truth is that Indian team cannt win the WC in future
by Suman Bhat on May 02, 2007 11:04 AM Permalink
why r u creating false story. recorded vidio coverage of game is proof ganguly did not play for team cause but for self and save his wkt and cement his place. many news paper carried out dravid took responsiblility for defeat and he did not blame any individual players. After WC debacle he thanked players and asked them not blame any individual player it was collective effort. ganguly was not doing briefs when he was captian and team lost matches. It is not indians but U R DUMB and BLIND. How many names u use the post msgs. and why block other's msgs as report abuse.??? check the team ind win last 6-7 yrs and dravid's contributions. it was dravid who anchored success for ganguly as captain NOT B'CUZ OF HIS LEADERSHIP QUALITIES LIKE taking shirts, arguing with umpires, making opposition captain wait for toss, treat team as his own propert etc... Even knowing that sachin and ganguly are in captian.breathing his neck with their back support an bothwere major culprits for WC debacle dravid accepted captaincy. one more defeat will end up his odi career. while 2 ex captain superstars who consider better odi players were fighting battle with back stage politics. INSTEAD SUPERSTARS WOULD HV FOUGHT BATTLE ON GROUND IN WI rather calling shots from dressing room
