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Why this happened
by rick anthony on May 01, 2007 09:18 AM   Permalink | Hide replies

Not Dravid.. just think broadly.. what happened between 2005 and 2006 year matches.

Once ganguly and tendulkar were out , dravid got all support from team.. this is the proof of consecutive match win ... dhoni ,yuvraj, kaif, dravid.hinself ..played..Everybody accpted in 2005 , indian middle order batting line is very strong so that they started to chase run
..why performance suddenly down... everybody is going failed.. they want to prove that if one person dropped because of poor perforamnec, now dropped all team.. because some of them pollute youngter mind...


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  RE:Why this happened
by Anindya on May 01, 2007 09:55 AM   Permalink
come out of the past mate.
At that time India's success was only on homeground, and Yuvraj was in the form of his life.
Once yuvraj got out with injury the skeleton of the team was exposed. Proof ??? all the foreign tours where the team wash whitewashed repeatedly and tournaments ended with first round exits.
look loosing and gaining form is part of the game. U just name me one player ,I repeat, just one player who have lost form and have gained it again during Dravid Chappel era ???
It is not a crime if u r blind, but if u have a pair of them , then u know......


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  RE:Why this happened
by Suman Bhat on May 02, 2007 10:21 AM   Permalink
ganguly success was b'cuz of hardwork and performance of dravid laxman kumble sachin and sewag. ganguly was arrogant and selfish and promoted groupism. but some senior players put their heart to performance won matches for which ganguly took the credit. lately laxman kumble were thrown out of odi team b'cuz both were not fitted in ganguly group. ganguly was non performing captain for late 2 yrs of his captaincy but survived b'cuz of dalmiays influence. take out dravid's performance check the stat ganguly's success will be lower than sachin. ganguly is successful only in promoting groupism, dadagiri and betraying sachin to gain captaincy, dalmiay and dravid he is cheap politician and should be out of team













team india had humiliataed defeat agaisnt to aussies, WI, SA, pakistan Kiwis when ganguly was captain. In 2004 team ind out champions trophy in 1st in England ganguly did not resign. Except Auss no other team had consistancy in winning. all captains have up and down.
senior batsman let down team during WC. read article Rajesh in Cricinfo and odi winning difference between ganguly and dravid is on.y 1.2 % as ganguly had edge of leading team for 146 odis while dravid led team only for 65 odis. team ind won odis test under dravid's captaincy without gangulys and tendulakars. dravid played odis under azar, sachin and ganguly he gave 100% commitment and performed under pressure and against strong bowling attack. He trusted senior players will support him duiring WC but backfired by same group.
did catpain or coach told palyers not to take singles, poor running ber wkt, drop catches, poor fielding, lack of commitment or negative body language or bowlers bowl so many loose balls. IF players were not happy with chappell or dravid they should approched the bcci instead of back stage politics. already there were reports that palyers spent time in crease for sponser's crease.
winning and defeat depends on performance of XI players. Bangaldesh and SL wins are best examples for that. But some ind players played delierately negative cricket and betryed team and millions of fans.

Three former BCCI Presidents today The former Presidents,
http://www.hindu.com/thehindu/holnus/007200704031320.htm
It was all about attitude, feels BCCI

Indian cricket needs Chappell: Tiger Pautidi
he was trying to bring in Indian cricked was kind of shift to the emphasis from individual flair and brilliance to a kind of teamwork - which Australia are so good at - which is why he was actually invited to this country.
http://www.cricketnext.com/news/indian-cricket-needs-chappell-pataudi/24441-14.html
Cricketers remain unbeaten in advertising field
Most celebrities, who have bet anything between Rs 250- 300 crore on old warhorses Sachin Tendulkar, Dravid and Ganguly, for
http://www.outlookindia.com/pti_news.asp?id=462779

Chappell held up a mirror to Indian cricket'-Manjrekar
http://content-gulf.cricinfo.com/talk/content/current/multimedia/288811.html was what John Wright couldn't do for four years, he showed the nation what the team was all about, what problems it had'

Player-agent nexus ruining Indian cricket: former BCCI chiefs
Three former BCCI Presidents today The former Presidents, http://www.hindu.com/thehindu/holnus/007200704031320.htm
It was all about attitude, feels BCCI

that contributed to our losses against Bangladesh and Sri Lanka."
http://worldcup.indiatimes.com/It_was_all_about_attitude_feels_BCCI/articleshow/1839620.cms




Should Sachin choose between one-day and Test cricket?
It is his decision. Of course many Indians want him to play till he's 50. He is a legend of the game, but he can't go on forever. Look what happened to Australia, when Brett Lee was injured. People were worried
http://cricket.expressindia.com/worldcup/07/story.php?storyid=85565
Despite BCCI curbs, some players will continue to make hay till 2010




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  RE:Why this happened
by Suman Bhat on May 02, 2007 10:48 AM   Permalink
SL CAPTIAN getting full support of ex captains and senior players and Sl is playing so well in WC some senior players of team ind let down team, captain but chappell had qukicked out team atleast chappell hold mirror for dirty politics of 2 ex captains.
dravid is good captain he started winning 18 odis in chasing and but 2 superstars alwayes make sure team lost and dravid termed as not good captain.
dravid is playing for team cause, thatwhy still ahead of these 2 superstars in ICC ranking in oids as well as test. both ex captains are now in news to gain public symptathy
team ind early exit is b'cuz of some senior players lack of commitment, negative cricket and 2 ex cpatain's dirty politics in dressing room. Instead of supporting captain, both ex captain undermined his ability and when it comes to take blame for defeat never come forward. Even sachin's outburtst in media was not justified b'czu ndtv report never mentioned a single player name in particular
dravid accepted responsiblity but when ganguly was captain he neveraccepted responsiblitly for defeat. When team lost press brief were done by dravid as VC.
ricky ponting team is winning game b'cuz no players goes agaisnt team or captain or promote groupism
Dravid played under captaincy of sahcin and ganguly, he gave 100% commitment to team, socred runs when team was required against strong bowling attacks under pressure, building partnerships and stayed at wkt to finish match. Dravod dod promote groupism or HE TRUESTED SENIOR PLYERS WILL SUPPORT HIM BUT BACK FIRED BY superstars like sachin bajji, ganguly dhoni, zahirkhan and agrakar,,,,
Under tim mody SL is playing superb cricket None of senior player /ex captain m envied mahila%u2019s his promotion as captain From the outset they gave unstinting support. they remained hungry to perform and did not rely on reputation or popular support to protect their places.
ganguly's success as captain is b'czu of contributions of dravid sachin laxman kumble and sewag NOT CERTIANLY HIS LEADERSHIP QUALITIES LIEK takign out shirt, making opposition captain wait for toss, yelling at bowlers for loose balls, making funny face on field, argueing umpers etc..
DRAVID ANCHORED SUCCESS FOR GANGULY AS CAPTAIN DRAVID IS PILLAR FOR GANGULY SUCCESS IN ODIS AND TEST AS SUCCSSFUL CAPTAIN
BUT SELFISH OPPERTUNIST GANGULY BETRYED DALMIAY, DRAVID SACHIN
kapil should be aware taht 2ex captains superstare are never supported dravid captain or kapil had no guts to speak major role played by 2 superstar for WC debacle


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  RE:Why this happened
by Rahul nanda on May 01, 2007 11:15 AM   Permalink
THINK BROADLY........india played at home against sri lanka in re bulding phase...and west indies....
PATHAN....gone...
SEHWAG....confidence player....lost it all...

A good spinner need a good captain.....bhaji's decline is something to do with dravid's captaincy....he made bhaji a defensive spinner.....he just didnt knew how to get results out of a aggressive bowler.

the mistakes dravid made...suppose dravid is a captain of australian team.....what will he do...

1.ask gilchrist to change batting style...be more responsible...and selective...dont be too aggressive.
2.Hayden....ask hayden to bat in the middle order...because he has the experience...
3.symonds to concentrate on taking singles in the middle overs not 4's and 6's
4.never use michael clark and symonds as a bowler
5.ask michael clark not to take too many risks in the middle overs..
6.hussey to open the innings....
7.shane watson to bat at number 3.
8.ask shaun tait and brett lee to bowl line and length like glen.
9.nathan bracken and glen to bowl fast.
10.set defensive fields for brad hogg.


U DONT NEED TO DO ANYTHING WORSE.....THIS TEAM WILL LOOSE....THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT DRAVID DID TO INDIA....



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  RE:Why this happened
by RAJESH SREEDHARAN on May 01, 2007 11:58 AM   Permalink
Dear Rahul nanda,

What u mentioned are correct. And u didn't mention some points.
If Dravid is the Captain of the current Australian team, then he will open the Innings even if they are having two spectacular openers. Also, he will put Bret Lee to bat at one down in every match so that Lee will loose his rhythm in bowling and will be out from the team. Gilchrist will bat at 7th position as Dhoni is doing now.

Now come to the fact...
Has he used Sehwag and Sachin to bowl in a single match at any time?
and in the match against Bangladesh, if he used the spinners early ( that time the bangladeshi batsmen were punishing the fast bowlers), then I am sure that the result would have been different.


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  RE:Why this happened
by Rahul nanda on May 01, 2007 12:09 PM   Permalink
thats the frustration......DRAVID is not even improving...in any sense....tactics..0....man management ...0 backing the team....0....his own batting ....0

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  RE:RE:Why this happened
by Sharad Saxena on May 01, 2007 03:22 PM   Permalink
Rahul Nanda and Anurag Rai are the 2 faces of ONE PERSON bcoz same message have posted by both of them

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