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Team Indias disastrous run will continue...
by RAJESH SREEDHARAN on Apr 16, 2007 09:51 AM   Permalink | Hide replies

BCCI has appointed Dravid as the Captain for the next three foreign trips. How terrible it is. I can not understand why the former players are not responding against such a foolish decision.
They should realise one thing. Now it self, the true cricket fans are thrown cricket from their heart and if the lean patch continues, then it will be the end of Cricket in India.
To be frank, Dravid is not a good leader and he has already proved it by his dubious decisions in the last one year and can any body point out any one day tournament victory in overseas under Dravid's captaincy (Not in the sub continent). I am not critisising him, but his captaincy.
And in the last world cup as well as the mini world cup, India's failure is due to his captaincy only.
In the Ireland trip, India has to face South Africa and do you remember the outcome of the last SA trip?
So, for the good future of Indian Cricket, pls appoint a good captain as Dravid has already proved that he is not suit for the job ...


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by bharat on Apr 16, 2007 12:08 PM   Permalink
A highly rated and experienced captain like Stephen Flemming's took the wrong decision to bat first against Sri Lanka. Did any one slam Flemming for this decision with the same intensity as we slammed Dravid for batting first against Bangladesh? Every captain makes good decisions and mistakes. Even Ganguly, rated as India's best captain made substantial percentage of mistakes during the 1st half of his captaincy. (Including the imfamous decision of putting Australia in to bat in the 2003 finals). If you want to put the bulk of blame of India's WC debacle on Dravid, be fair and also credit him for the good performance during the test matches in West Indies and SA. India lost because the team flopped as a whole and cannot be singularly attributed to Dravid's captaincy. The decision to keep Dravid as the captain is 100% correct.

I am neither from Karnataka nor from Bengal. If you want to allege regional biase behind my comments, jolly well go ahead!

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by Ravi chandran on Apr 16, 2007 12:17 PM   Permalink
I think, for continuity, Dravid must be there. All other seniors can be axed. Give him a team of youngsters and watch the unfurling of wonderful Team India.

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by Annie on Apr 16, 2007 10:26 AM   Permalink
India was ranked at No.7 and going through an extremely bad patch, what did you expect them to do against south africa. But having said that, even I wasn't prepared for the bangladesh episode.



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  RE:Team Indias disastrous run will continue...
by RAJESH SREEDHARAN on Apr 16, 2007 10:32 AM   Permalink
Well, we are expecting a good performance from the last one year and nothing happened till now...
And after the next three trips also, we can expect so...
You can see it in the last ICC mini world cup, SA trip and in the last world cup also.
And after the early exit from the world cup, Dravid told the reporters that we are not deserved to Win the world cup. How can we expect good from such a captain???
Only the over experimentation cause this failure...

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by Annie on Apr 16, 2007 10:44 AM   Permalink
Dravid was only stating an honest fact ( he was still being a bit polite if you ask me , winning the world cup is a long shot, with their performance they didn't even deserve to be in it), had he said anything to the contrary then everyone would have said he is shamelessly making excuses for Indias pathetic performance.
Had Kapil Dev himself been the captain I doubt even he could do anything, the entire batting line-up collapsed, I don't see how anyone can defend that.

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by RAJESH SREEDHARAN on Apr 16, 2007 11:37 AM   Permalink
Dear Annie,
I think, u r thouroughly mistaken. I will point out some things.. Can u pls reply?
!) In the last encouter against Australia, (I think in the tri series in which India, West Indies and Australia participated) Australia beatnen India very easily. And in the Post match meeting, Dravid told to the reporters that "even if we are taking 50-60 more runs, we could not beat Australia". If a Captain is playing with such an attitude, then how can we win a match?

2) Just before the world cup, Dravid was just experimenting. Even if India were having 4 openers, what was the need of Dravid opening the innings in ODI's? He has opened in a lot of matches at that time saying that a player should be able to play at any position. And i do believe that if Sachin has opened the innings which is his favourite position, then he could have given a solid start to the team in the WC . And can u believe. any other team would do such blunders? Will Australia be ready to put Hayden at 4 th place or Ponting to open the innings?
3) If Dhoni was playing in any other team, he would have promoted in the batting order. And u remember, when he played at one down, he blasted two amazing tons and some 50's. But, when Dravid became the Captain, he didn't promote Dhoni in the order. Instead he promoted Pathan in the order. Of course, it was a success, but after that Pathan lost his rhythm in his bowling and lost his place in the team.

And u remember one thing, Steve Waugh lost his place in the one day team after failing to reach the finals in a tri nation cup in which Australia, SA and New zealand participated. After that incident, the selectors thrown him away from the team.
I am not blaming Dravid, but we should admit that he is a poor captain...


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by Annie on Apr 16, 2007 12:49 PM   Permalink
Ok Rajesh, here it goes:

1) I cannot comment on this because i'm not aware of the series you are reffering to (and since you don't remember the name I can't pull out the stats to check how big a margin it was).

2)Ponting and Hayden are in cracking form, Tendulkar is not. Infact he's been strugling for sometime now, the new ball does a bit,so keeping that in mind you will want to send him a bit lower down the order to see off the new ball so the wicket has time to settle down a bit. Had he been the Tendulkar of old, he could have played any spot, but he's not the same guy anymore.

3) I agree with you here Dhoni is NO.6 in the ODI ranking (and the only Indian in the top 10) he has the potential to play up the order, India/Dravid is under-utilising him, and probably paying for it.

India pays too much importance to it's batting and much too little to it's bowling, Pathan is the byproduct of exactly such thinking, Pathan the bowler was sacrificed for pathan the batsman, and now they are abusing him because it suddenly dawned on them that they need good bowlers too. You know Imran Khan said pathan needed to be protected and used wisely (do you guys remember Balaji, where is he now). But you Indians are obssesed with batting, if you guy could only appreciate the beauty of great bowling.

I'm not saying Dravid is a great captain (he is not), but what other option do you have at the moment and please don't say tendulkar, he has been nothing short of disaster himself.

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by Vipul on Apr 16, 2007 12:12 PM   Permalink
1) Does a statement matter more than the performance ?
2) In australia's case: Hussey, clarke, symmonds all have opened the batting. Whats ur say?
3) Are you the captain or Dravid to decide on the batting line-up.

If you have the guts, then do something urself. Join the indian cricket team. Perform well, then only what u takl holds value. Why are u just crapping around with no sense?

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by bharat on Apr 16, 2007 12:14 PM   Permalink
Rajesh, Captaincy or captains inspiration cannot make miracles. It does make a difference in crunch situations. However, for captaincy to make a difference, the team and players must be able to attain a certain level of performance on its own. In the present world cup, the peformance of our players was far below the level at which good or bad captaincy could have made any difference to the results.

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by Kart on Apr 16, 2007 10:09 AM   Permalink
What if India performs well? What will be your reaction?

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by siva kumar on Apr 16, 2007 12:05 PM   Permalink
You give 100 matches to a captain. Surely he will perform well in atleat 30 matches. You want this result? Or you want a better result Mr.Kart? What Mr.Rajesh sridharan says is completed accepted.

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