RE:Fleming retires from ODI
by bharat on Apr 25, 2007 01:05 PM Permalink
1. NZ winning record (of one dayers) under Flemming's captaincy is less than 50%.
2. NZ have not won or reached the finals of any major tournaments.
3. Like India, NZ have by and large, a reputation of being tigers at home only.
No doubt, Flemming was a reasonably good and steady captain, but no one else except for the forumers on rediff use superlatives to describe his captaincy.
I repeat he was a good captain but certainly not exceptional. Why are we going all out to praise his captaincy so lavishly?
If an Indian captain has a winning record of less than 50% would the Indian public support his being retained as the captain for 10 years regardless of however brilliant the captain he may be?
RE:Fleming retires from ODI
by Ravi chandran on Apr 25, 2007 01:17 PM Permalink
Ind has never beaten NZ in a world cup match. Likewise, Pak has never beaten Ind in a world cup match.
RE:Fleming retires from ODI
by bharat on Apr 25, 2007 01:43 PM Permalink
You are wrong. India beat NZ in the 1987 WC at Nagpur. Gavaskar scored 103 in that match.
RE:Fleming retires from ODI
by Ravi chandran on Apr 25, 2007 01:57 PM Permalink
You are right and I am wrong: 14 October 1987 India V New Zealand - India won by 16 runs. (Group A)
RE:RE:Fleming retires from ODI
by Ravi chandran on Apr 25, 2007 03:40 PM Permalink
14 March 2003: India v New Zealand, Centurion. Idia won by 7 wickets.
RE:Fleming retires from ODI
by Indian on Apr 25, 2007 09:36 PM Permalink
Popolation of NZ is just 4 million, even then they are doing much better than india (pop >1000 million)
RE:Fleming retires from ODI
by Suman Bhat on Apr 25, 2007 11:51 AM Permalink
flaming was captain for 10 yrs and even last time kiwis made it to semis but failed reached fainl He did not realise that time Sl are playing like unit and all players are supporting and performaing for team cause not for sponsers or self records some superstar senior players betryed team captian and millions of fans by playing back stage polticis senior players let down team and major role in early exit of WC
it was ganguly who destroyed the team spirit by vomoting dressing room conflict during Zib tour. whole country knew that dravid mediated between chappell and ganguly dravid anchored success of ganguly as captain take out dravid's performance ganguly success as captain average will be lower than sachin politican ganguly betryaed dalmiay dravid sachin he is spoiling sports man spirit of younger players but GANGSTER GANGULY IS BIG LOOSER EVEN YURAJ, DHONI,ZAHIR, HARBAJAN SEWAG WON'T JOIN HIS DIRTY POLITICS. CUNNING POLITICIAN GANGULY SHOULD BE REMOVED
RE:Fleming retires from ODI
by Ravi chandran on Apr 25, 2007 12:08 PM Permalink
Oh no, Suman Blah Blah, when will you shut up and not release half-baked ideas (gas)?
RE:Fleming retires from ODI
by kuntal banerjee on Apr 25, 2007 11:34 PM Permalink
Hey Pramod & Ravi...Do u have any idea of what Suman does for living??????
