force Ind can never match with a car like red bull. its only a hype created by mallya. u put schumi on force ind & U wont a get a result. Force ind vl be forced to exit after compeleting 1 yr.
RE:Force India
by Praveen on Feb 02, 2008 12:16 PM Permalink
U ppl dont know a thing abt F1. F1 does not run on reputation. U need lot of money. by the time the year finishes, he vl hav lost lot of money. Its obvious that many have lost lot of money cos of poor performance of car & they cudnt withstand 1 complete year. Mallya also comes into the same league. PPl shud forget abt nationalism & support sportsmen who r true champions. What is the big thing in naming the F1 team as Force Ind. Ferrari is the No.1 team in F1 & they do not mention anything about their country on the car.Its all about sports. dont bring country & nationality of a person into sports. Enjoy sports!!
RE:Force India
by t sivaraman on Feb 02, 2008 10:06 AM Permalink
It is unfortunate that you post messages like this. You cant achieve podium finishes overnight. It is just weeks back, Mallaya has taken over and has assured required financial allotments. we have to be proud? Which other F1 team is linked with a country name?. Even if you dont support them from the front dont bad mouth when some one makes India proud!
RE:Force India
by Raghu on Feb 02, 2008 12:15 PM Permalink
Praveen
Your conclusion is too far fetched,too early and based on no knowledge of F1 cars & their development.The intensions are in the right direction.
1)Commited investment over a period 2)No unnecessary patriotic feeling and consequent insertion of below par Karthi or Karan 3)"Interim" car to fill for the coming season and a permanant engine for season next is the right way to proceed 4) Experienced & "stable" driver like Fisi is the best way to build a reliable car and not rough handlers ike Montoyo, Kimi or Karthi
RE:Force India
by Praveen on Feb 02, 2008 12:26 PM Permalink
i agree with u Mr.Raghu. Then Y on hell did all the billonaires who had owned Jordon,spyker cars had to give up?? even they were also billionaires but they cudn't afford. Fisc is a person who cudn't give a result with a well equipped car. then what can v expect fm him on this car. Look the same car of renault vl give results once alonso steps into that car & his partner vl also support his tteam.
RE:Force India
by manish gurbani on Feb 02, 2008 01:47 PM Permalink
Dear Praveen, i strongly feel that you have a very negative and pessimistic approach towards indians making it big on the global scene! (this definately makes for good debate material) :)
for every company that has owned an F1 team, the road upward is not an easy one. i have been following F1 since 93 season, when ayrton senna and schumi rivalry was the big thing.
thereafter schumi moved to Ferrari, at which time, ferrari was not a very highly rated team. it took time and tremendous dedication, not to mention funds, for ferrari to turn things around. it wasnt only shumi who changed things, it was good management, technical knowhow and team work that did it.
coming back to Force India, they are at the beginning of long journey, which i wish them the best for!!! there will always be hurdles, but we as a nation hope for the best, FORCE india may or may not make it, but its wrong of you to PREMATURELY DECIDE THEIR FATE!!
who are you to judge on their management strategies, who are you to make assumptions based on lack of internal knowledge of the company???
remove your pessimistic hat, and put on one of logic and hope, your perspective will surely change for the positive.
after all, everyone is entitled to try to reach the top, its only the people who dont try that remain BELOW THE BOTTOM and vent out their pessimistic and negative thoughts!!
RE:Force India
by Praveen on Feb 02, 2008 02:16 PM Permalink
I wud hav agreed on all ur points had he purchased BMW or red bull which is far more reliable than force ind
RE:RE:Force India
by manish gurbani on Feb 02, 2008 01:50 PM Permalink
companies dont always give up only due to lack of resources or funding!! lack of direction and will to complete can be very instrumental in deciding the fate of a project!
RE:RE:RE:Force India
by Praveen on Feb 02, 2008 02:07 PM Permalink
y do u ppl bring nationality into sports. when a team plays well U shud appreciate no matter which country he belongs to. & my dear frnd with funds U can run a ckt board but not football or F1. As far as ferraris are concerned they had their machine whereas mallaya has owned it fm ferrari. so u cant expect much improvement on machine. U can rem me when mallya pulls out early fm f1
RE:Force India
by sohail hanfi on Feb 02, 2008 04:45 PM Permalink
dear praveen,,,i wud have supported u if it wud have been Kingfisher India or force kingfisher..but buddy, he has named it Force India..thats purely patriotism...if he wanted to make money,,,he wud nvr have entered into F1...he has some plans..lets support him..atleast wen in d coming season we will be watching d races, we will held our head high as an Indian car is there...feel proud of it...give them ur support....cheers
RE:Force India
by Raghu on Feb 02, 2008 01:39 PM Permalink
Praveen
All I said was that the direction of the attempt appears to be right at this point of time. Fisi cannot give a podium finish in the coming season. The attempt probably is to build a reliable machine which can later be driven by mavericks like Schumi, Kimi
When u named Reno-Alonso u r missing that Reno's aerodynamics ( credited to have given the car that little bit extra) was perfected much before Alonso!!!
View above & the contract cost factor of drivers, I still feel that Fisi is a good bet for the modest aims of the team this season
RE:Force India
by Praveen on Feb 02, 2008 01:54 PM Permalink
the result vl be same as what karthikeyen did it for Jordon. when a billionaire purchases a team he also prepares the blueprint for the future expansion with a view that his team wud do better & get a fair result during the first season. What happens with the team like force Ind is that their hopes vl be shattered when the car cant complete the entire race. u put fisc or sutil who can only deliver only on good cars. Mallyas busi might have clicked in aero,liquor,fertilser etc but sports is altogather a different ball game. The main aim of mallya is only to bring glam to Ind & make money.
