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by ragini on Nov 11, 2006 02:15 PM Permalink
Enough guys I read all topics and muslim women's expoitation is a major issue here. like men keeping multiple wives. I am a Hindu but it just comes in my mind that didnt raja dashrath had 4 wives, didnt lord krishna has multiple gals arnd him or Draupadi had 5 husbands and all it was going on in front of Lord krishna.
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by ifti on Nov 10, 2006 04:10 PM Permalink
when one who marry thousads of wives can be worshipped as god , what is wrong if u marry 3-4 my firend sreedhar.
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by surve rizwan on Nov 11, 2006 12:53 PM Permalink
To Mr. TPeekay, Dear could u please tell me the meaning of terrorist. If u say LTTE is not terrorist then who r they? Freedom Fighter? u must be kidding and on top of it u r comparing them with Bhagat Singh, isn't it ridiculous? Man they r killing hundres of innocent people every day for a seperate homeland then why the palestinian are called terrorist when they r fighting for their own motherland and the Iraqi insurgents who r fighting against the US led Coalition forces dont u think they r the one who needs a bit consideration rather than LTTE. Moreover Bhagat singh and Rajguru fought against the opression by Britishers in order to save their motherland and didnt demand a seperate Homeland what LTTE is asking for. So. Next time please think and then post what u wanted to. Thanx Rizwan
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by Anil Gahlot on Nov 10, 2006 05:58 AM Permalink
Ankur...you just dont know anything...so keep ur mouth shut....i dont feel like replying to ur messg...about you faheem....it wud be better if YOU dont make it a religious issue because the dress she is wearing in not BURQAH but a HIJAB...i would call it a XYX dress....anything wrong in that...did i hurt you...noways...so take it easy...no religious flames here...cool...and speak sense.
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by Tauseef on Nov 10, 2006 03:03 PM Permalink
one thing i will like to ask all those who are anti-burkha or anti-islam.... 1.A christian nun wears full cloth which covers her entire body...that is also form of burkha,,,why don't you raise any controversy on it.
2.A hindu lady wears a sari with the palu on her head and she covers her body too in sari...this is also form of burkha.. why don't you raise controversy on it...
common will you like your wife/sister to move around in naked form.....NO..never so what is wrong if someone is covering her body....???
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by Jay on Nov 10, 2006 08:19 PM Permalink
LTTE consists of Hindus Muslims & Christians. It is not in name of any religion, its in name of Tamils.
Good, Bad & Ugly
by Rhea on Nov 11, 2006 05:24 PM Permalink
The problem was not with the founders but their disciples who went ahead & preached with incomplete knowledge.
That is why Judas Iscariot is still considered to be a traitor when he served Jesus not just with his life like Christ's other disciples but with his whole entity. He was the most faithful one & hence Jesus trusted him with the responsibility to free the Lord from worldly flesh (as it was meant to be exhibited otherwise it is a form of "Hatho Yoga" where the body remains without any sign of life for days & then it comes to life again). Even the Bible says that Satan entered Judas with Jusus's permission. Still they condemn him, what a joke.
Same with Islam. Their laws have rotten out & are stinking but they are not ready to change. They have simply forgotten that in this changing world everything has to change with time. Only God cannot change but It also evolves. Evolution is a fundamental basic, if a religion does not follow it it will worn out itself as has happened to the Christianity & Islam. they are no longer faiths or ways to God but a mere bunch of laws.
Yes, we discuss about the internal problem in Hindus. We are open to changes. There have been social reformers in Hindus time to time. Swami Dayanand Saraswathi, Rajaram Mohanroy, Vivekananda, Ramana maharshi...you can name any number of them who came out with the wrong practices in hindu society and dedicated their life to correct them. Hindus din't kill them. There used to be debates. They are worshipped in hindu society. Similar reformation has not taken place in any other religion. It is pity that muslims are not open to discuss their problems and transorm the society for the betterment. You people are talking about RSS.. Do you know, RSS chief has called for this kind of a debate within the muslims. He is of the openion that Muslims should understand the problem and they themselves should correct them. They should be open for change. Hindus have changed with time and they are changing for betterment of the country and soceity. For hindus it is country first and religion next. Is this true for muslims?
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by sailaja on Nov 10, 2006 07:43 PM Permalink
Painful and disappointing.
The fact like Terrorist never have a religion. And when they hit they hit all alike be it Hindus, Muslims, Christians or any other religion. Show me one place where there are no terrorist attacks.
If it is hindus there is case system, Islam shia & Sunni, Christianity Catholics & Protestants.
Guys and Gals understand that it is always the powerful suppressing the powerless irrespective of religion.
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by Bimukt on Nov 10, 2006 06:22 PM Permalink
Assholes.. Will you stop fighting..
My obs.. 1.Where come religion comes in this topic 2.RSS is a very patriotic organisation..not VHP..BJP 3.Islam is a very simple religion for the common man..respect it. 4.Islam needs a reformer to go back to the form it should be.
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by tennislover on Nov 10, 2006 02:08 PM Permalink
Highest status? like right to education, right to vote, right to enter mosque, right to divorce adultrous husband, right to marry more than one etc.?
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by Supriyo on Nov 10, 2006 10:18 PM Permalink
Funny people say such things! Terrorists = muslim is the stupidest thing I have ever heard. Most feared terrorist organisations in the world, the IRA, the Klu Klux Klan, and the LTTE are anything but muslim.
Also, respect the privacy of one's religion! We did not need this controversy at all. Sania is a good sportswoman and that's what we should remember her as. We dont need this discussion on dress code and what's right/wrong with her religion.
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by amir on Nov 15, 2006 08:59 PM Permalink
Ankur, i just cant stop laughing cos for islam there is a reference to its existance in historical text books..cant even laugh for u cos u r following something which has no basis or reference of even existing moving creatures comprehendable by human being (least if u can be categorized as human....)...sad story ...get an identity dude
disclaimer....dont provoke us to come out with facts...i dont intend to do this hindu / muslim business...but if u force us we can slap facts right cross ur face and that is the world dont even know the religion u belong to ....least being positive or negative about it
Mr. Bhat
by khalid on Nov 10, 2006 11:14 PM Permalink
Hey mr Bhat there r 30 crore muslims in india and rest 70 crore r hinds if all muslims became terrorist than every terrorist need to kill 2-3 hindus and u know it na a terrorist r so perfect to kill dozens so dont make muslims terrosist just let them live peacefully and practice tham what ever their religion said to them
Ok guys chill out! who said all terrorists are muslims?... thats totally wrong. lets change it as "terrorists come from islam, hindu, christian etc"... thats what you guys wanted right?
RE: are LTTE preachers of peace and love
by ali on Nov 11, 2006 12:48 PM Permalink
whoever is this tpeekay if you so sympathize with LTTE who in the name of creating a new state are killing thousands of innocent people by the way of suicide bombings then why do you have double standards. if you think its okay to kill other innocent people in the name of freedom then I'm sure each community has it's own agenda. instead of spreading a message of peace here everybody wants to play the blame game. so all you hyprocrites just shut up
First thing first...there is nothin to laugh on the burkha she is wearing....she looks gracious n preety in that too...
But there is more to it anyways.......gracios is very hypothetical term....a woman irrespective of being a hindu or christian or muslim if wraps up fully is gracious....maybe we should try n learn that a woman looks/feels gracious in many more ways too.
The debate here is should a woman always wrap up completely for the entire life span....does she have right to live like an average male lives the life...does she will have freedom of choice. Yes woman's now do have "choice freedom" but still does that match to the level of freedom a male in the society enjoys...once again I would specify the debate is for a muslim and hindu woman both
A society can only move forward when we shall really learn the term "equality of genders". In persuing such a goal if one feels that we are following western culture the be it...its better to be followers towards the better society rather than living in dark ages....yes Tauseef the rule applies to all the community hindu/muslim/christian n watever else there is...
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by dj on Nov 10, 2006 06:07 PM Permalink
The difference between Hindus and Moslems are that Hindus are open to criticism even when it comes to their religion (as seen in this forum). They are open to ideas and ready to adopt and co-operate.Moslems need to learn these things.LTTE is ofcourse a terrorist organization but still it enjoys very large support of the inhabitants of that country(Sri Lanka), not by the people of India (which are pre dominantly Hindu). I dont know which insane mind can compare RSS with Hizbul, Laskar-e-Taiba,SIMI,Al Badretc etc....A fundamentalist is not a person who is very religious but a person who opposes change and is not ready to adjust.
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by N. Jain on Nov 11, 2006 05:22 AM Permalink
My reply to Tau's comments : You unknowingly said it all. While making this comparison, you forgot that Krishna, Dhratrashta, Pandavas do not belong to the modern era. But in the muslim community, you will find the 17th century traditions being followed even today. Islam is a great religion, but we are living in 21st century and this religion needs some changes now.
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by amir on Nov 15, 2006 09:02 PM Permalink
Mr sreedhara..to get facts staright a girl in Orissa from ur community was raped BY HER OWN FATHER and no one even bothered to try to get justice to her...now what u have to say about that eh (courtest indiatimes)? there are so many satis and child marriages taking place in backward places of bihar and rajasthan in ur community....any thoughts on that...? dude before talkign about others look into ur own religion and what ur own people are doing ......
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by amir on Nov 15, 2006 08:53 PM Permalink
hi GK, if advani is a drop in an ocean..then the hindu population is much less than a drop to the population of muslims and hence hindu terrorist ratio is much higher...
Discalimer..i dont like hindu muslim controvery but if someone makes irresponsible statements i would like to give a piece of my mind then...we all are educated here (hopefull)...but then i realise there is a difference in being educated and being literate...
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by gamingx on Nov 10, 2006 09:03 PM Permalink
Whatever all of your opinions of Islam are, Islam is nothing but the truth. No wonder Islam is the fastest growing religion in the world. Don't believe me? Search for it on Google. Hope this shuts up all those who criticize Islam.
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by suvo on Nov 09, 2006 07:55 PM Permalink
Great Ankur You told the truth. I am not a Hindu fundamentalist neither a religious guy but I sure agree with you.
RSS&its sister org's are Hindu terrorists. LTTE,bodos,naxlites etc etc r just terrorists,not Hindu terrorists.They don't quote Bhagawad Gita or scream Jai Shri Ram before killing innocent ppl.
RSS is for nation not like muslim organisation
by Manish Sharma on Nov 11, 2006 03:57 PM Permalink
Mr. Sorab, RSS always prefer national service, not like muslim organisatin where religion is first then nation. Think twice before writing on public domain
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by Shaik on Nov 12, 2006 10:44 PM Permalink
What has gotten into peoples mind...I dont see this kind of hatred in the society in which I live, we all live by harmony. Once it comes to things like internet, phone etc where people think they are a lot safer, they tend to write things which sometimes dont make sense to them too. Some one wrote Religions create hatred... correction! they dont its the people who do...The solution is get closer to ur religion (what ever u follow!) and then u would realize...there is no bloodshed anymore. Stop! critizing people based on color, sect, origin etc. History is an evidence, first it was Germans, Japanese, Vietnamese that were bad guys now its muslims! Please leave us alone
Why the name of RSS is coming in picture. I donot understand. RSS helped the nation at the time all national calamities. It even helped when two flights collided around 7 years back and all dead are muslims. It never tried to covert other religion people. Even helped in the partition time. Though he hated RSS for no reason, Nehru appreciated it for their help in China war, in which RSS swayamsevak lost lives for supplying essentials to the army.
The only Agenda for RSS is the Nationalism. Respect the nation regardless of the religion, Follow common civil code, as you follow common criminal law. Get rid of Article 356 and 370 to make this nation stronger.
If these are crimes then we have to change the meaning of terrorism in this world.
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by siva on Nov 10, 2006 10:39 PM Permalink
LTTE doesn't say that they are fighting for hindus just like other islamic fundamentalist groups.Even baloch terrorists are muslims but they are not called so because of thier cause they are fighting for.Islam can never co-exist.Religious conflict is nothing but conflict between Islam and others
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by Murthy on Nov 10, 2006 06:10 PM Permalink
Plz stop it rediff....for the sake of peace...plz stop this debate...what is the great news if sania visits Mecca...any administrator whoever is taking care of this idiotic debate, plz stop and remove from the records....it's taking religious route...also to all the people who are taking this simple photo to all heights of religious issues...plz stop...
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by Ayaz on Nov 10, 2006 06:28 PM Permalink
Nothing more to say dear all good friends. you have to chose whether u want to see women as a public property or your own respected and beloved one. When she is not in pardah she is seen and spotted by everyone. And you never know what stuff are there in those eyes and she can easiliy become a thing of no privacy. Pardah or other comandments of Islam is there for the benifit of mankind. You dont want to follow or criticise it for your own interest it is your decision. But one thing is clear that if the women are seen today almost out of cloths, she first came out of pardah. Second point is that for a mankind who will decide what he is to eat, cloth or do. Definitely one who has sent him in the world and he is ALLAH.
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by Archish on Nov 10, 2006 10:19 PM Permalink
Hey hey hey ! hold on guys. Is this discussion on religion or is it on Sania. I thought it started with Sania and her dress. Let me say this see looks good in whatever dress she wears. Hizab or Burkha or short-skirts or just jeans ... enjoy the pictures man ! Please refrain from fighting guys, we need peace.
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by ibrahim on Nov 11, 2006 12:27 PM Permalink
All muslims are not terririst ok,
why dont u look at india,like tamil nadu.Andra pradesh.
Orissa,Bihar,even neibour country Srilanka (LTTE) they are aslo Tamilians. RSS,VHP,BJP,-these grous are teririst i think u dont know whats meaning of tererist
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by Raj on Nov 09, 2006 08:18 PM Permalink
Ankur - agree with you completely. Faheem, whether its a burkha or a hijab - will not generated any negative image about Islam. Your comment is just laughable.
to mr khan
by shridhar on Nov 10, 2006 07:24 PM Permalink
mr khan for ur information LTTE, naxalites, maoists r not fighting for the sake of religion..they r fighting for their political issues in a wrong manner.. and u muslims r killing others for the sake of some blind beliefs.. u call other religions'people as infidels and insist to throw them out... this is the BIG PROBLEM with u guys..
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by sorab123456 on Nov 10, 2006 09:39 AM Permalink
Laugh my foot ankur,may be this is the knowledge your family has put into you.HAvent you learnt to respect all religions in school days??,if you have not learnt you are not indian,might have studied in some extremist schools of RSS,i guess.whats so funny in that to laugh she is sharing knowledge which ignorant people like you dont know.And remember you are not world to say the whole world is laughing.Every country has set of rules,that is the set of rules one need to follow if you are going to gulf,even if you take your mother or sister to saudi you need to take them in that dress irrespective of which religion you folow.In india there are no rules that does not mean some one is low and some one high.so mind your language..spoilt buddy
