Whenever there is any news on terrorist attack, which always involves fundamental and foolish Islamists, I find many anti Muslim messages as well as messages defending the people behind the attacks. There is no message from Muslims denouncing these attacks. It means that the secular Muslims (there are definitely some secular Muslims also), do not hv the guts to express their feelings for fear of fatwa. It was bcz of this reason that no Muslim came forward in support of a secular Muslim woman Taslima.
If it is so, the secular Muslims, including Taslima, should get united and leave Islam, which does not allow u to go against fundamentalists.
There is no meaning to blindly and strictly follow a book, which was written thousand yrs ago, when the scientific knowledge was poor.
RE:Secular Muslims - get united against fundamentalism
by Star on May 11, 2008 01:16 PM Permalink
Ram Sharma
Quran is not like your Veda or Ramayana,,,,,,
Quran is that it is not a book of history, a book of science or a book of law - though it has all these in it. It is first and foremost a book of divine guidance.
You guys always put Islam at the focus of criticism and insults, of course from non-Muslims who never stop showing bias against this true religion. Whenever any atrocity is committed against Muslims in anywhere in the world, you never hear tell of the perpetrators religion, unlike if something like that happens to non-Muslims, fingers of accusations will start searching for any ill-fate Muslims or Islamic organizations to attribute the crime to; then starts the saga of settling the old account. All this because they happen to be Muslims!, Why?
Regarding Taslims she got the punishment what she deserve you dont need to cry for her,,,,,,
RE:Secular Muslims - get united against fundamentalism
by drax on May 11, 2008 02:22 PM Permalink
Yes Quran is the best source of guidance to murder,loot, rapeand kill others. :)
RE:Secular Muslims - get united against fundamentalism
by Ram Sharma on May 11, 2008 01:38 PM Permalink
Quran, Ramayan r matters of faith. Veda is practical with Yogasan, Vedic Mathematics etc., whose importance cannot b denied by anyone. Though unfortunately many Muslims and Christians foolishly oppose Yogasan, just bcz it is part of Veda.
Quran cannot b said to b a book of divine guidance. Otherwise how people can kill innocent people in the name of this book (even Shias, Sunnis etc kill each other in the name of this book!)
U will find many Hindus criticising Israel for inhuman treatment it gives to Palestenians. Similarly u know that many Hindus go on criticising Modi, for what happened many yrs ago in Gujrat, bcz of the reaction to burning of Hindus in a train. So yr statement that non Muslims don't say anything if any atrocity is committed against Muslims is wrong.
See bcz of yr communal nature u r happy that Taslima got bad treatment in the country by fundamentalist Muslims.
In this age of science learn to b rational. Also learn to b secular from yr Hindu brothers, who r the most secular people in the world.
RE:Secular Muslims - get united against fundamentalism
by Star on May 11, 2008 01:45 PM Permalink
Ram Sharma
Look man though we respect others followers and their faiths but We muslim dismiss all your mythologies which we consider man made not divinely revealed,,,,,,,,,,
Regarding Killings you never read even a single verse of quran thats why you are bashing,,,,,
Islam has not only forbidden terror and violence, but also abhors even the slightest imposition of any idea on another human being. Allah Almighty says: (Let there be no compulsion in religion: Truth stands out clear from Error: whoever rejects evil and believes in Allah has grasped the most trustworthy hand-hold, that never breaks. And Allah hears and knows all things.) (Al-Baqarah 2: 256
Regarding Taslima let me clarify you again Islam grants the right of freedom of thought and expression on the condition that it should be used to propagate virtue and truth, not to spread evil and wickedness. Further, no one has the right to use abusive or offensive language in the name of criticism.
RE:Secular Muslims - get united against fundamentalism
by Ram Sharma on May 11, 2008 01:56 PM Permalink
U cannot dsmiss Yogasan and Vedic mathematics.
Regarding killings, we don't hv to read Quran, we see what the fundamentalist Islamists do in practice.
Taslima was saying the truth, which communal Islamists like u cannot tolerate.
Some of yr accusations and apprehensions were also proved wrong in my above message.
Hence I am again repeating that in this age of science learn to b rational, do not blindly and strictly follow Quran, it will b disastrous for the humanity. Also learn to b secular from yr Hindu brothers, who r the most secular people in the world.
